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Date:      Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:40:54 +0100
From:      Mark Ovens <marko@freebsd.org>
To:        "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@freebsd.org>
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Question about voting
Message-ID:  <20000913194054.E264@parish>
In-Reply-To: <200009131822.e8DIM6e28777@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 11:22:06AM -0700
References:  <20000913074150.V11227@radon.gryphonsoft.com> <62550.968809979@winston.osd.bsdi.com> <200009130541.e8D5fHG91697@netplex.com.au> <20000913074150.V11227@radon.gryphonsoft.com> <200009131641.KAA88617@harmony.village.org> <20000913191538.B264@parish> <200009131822.e8DIM6e28777@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>

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On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 11:22:06AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> If memory serves me right, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 10:41:03AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > > The reason that I changed it from 1 week to 4 weeks was at the request
> > > of many Europeans.  They are lucky enough to get 3-4 week vacations
> > > which they tend to take off all at once.
> > 
> > So how many weeks do you get in the States?
> 
> Some 'Merikan companies lump vacation and sick leave time together.
> Here at Cisco it's called "Paid Time Off" (PTO).  We get four weeks of
> PTO total...if you're healthy, you can treat it all like vacation time.

Jeez, you're joking. The company I work for has what is regarded as
low holiday entitlements but I still get 22 days + 8 statutory
(Easter, Xmas, New Year and Bank Holidays) and 6 weeks paid sick
leave. If you are in a company pension scheme that (sick leave)
usually rises to 6 months on full pay followed by 6 months on half
pay.

No wonder that when we set up a subsidiary in the US the people who
moved out there wanted UK style employment terms (holiday/sick pay and
company cars).

> At Sandia we only got three weeks of vacation time, but we also had a
> nice flex-time/comp-time arrangement.
> 
> Bruce.
> 
> 
> 



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