From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 16:30:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0047237B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:30:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davep@who.net) Received: from baloo.ne.mediaone.net (panariti.ne.mediaone.net [66.30.121.126]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5LNUZ812606; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from baloo.ne.mediaone.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baloo.ne.mediaone.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5LNUn428853; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:30:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from davep@who.net) Message-Id: <200106212330.f5LNUn428853@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> To: Valentin Nechayev Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:22:49 +0300." <20010622002248.B1597@iv.nn.kiev.ua> Reply-To: "David A. Panariti" X-Attribution: davep Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:30:49 -0400 From: "David A. Panariti" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Valentin" == Valentin Nechayev writes: Laziness is compatible with anything when it means not doing any unnecessary work. It is not a matter of knowing it needs changing, it is a matter of changing it. Any time a procedure and be automated, it should be. It should be one's choice whether or not to use the automation, however. That's why I suggest a new tag rather than redefining an existing one. Why should I: 1) su to root 2) co -l supfile 3) edit supfile (correctly. Small chance of a typo, but non-zero vs 0% when *not* editing the file) 4) ci -u supfile when I can do: nothing. This is easier, and less prone to mistakes. Given these two lists, Occam's razor would, I think, select the zero length list as the simpler one. Regards, davep Valentin> Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 16:20:15, davep (David A. Panariti) Valentin> wrote about "Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD": >> How about adding another tag that always refers to the latest >> RELENG_x_y. >> >> Then we (paranoid and lazy types) can just cvsup that tag without >> needing to change from RELENG_X_Y to RELENG_X_Y+1 and RELENG_X+1_0. Valentin> Paranoia is hardly compatible with laziness. To upgrade Valentin> RELENG_4_3 to RELENG_4_3 you must know that previous version Valentin> is now danger. Hence you read at least announce@. If you Valentin> read announce@ you can know that new release is published. Valentin> Hence, you know that tag should be changed and you have to Valentin> prepare for possible problems. Valentin> Cut it with Occam's knife. Valentin> /netch -- "I never fail to convince an audience that the best thing they could do was to go away." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message