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Date:      Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:11:31 -0500 (EST)
From:      Sue Bauer-Lee <sblee@eeyore.taz.tac.com>
To:        eivind@yes.no (Eivind Eklund)
Cc:        ports@FreeBSD.ORG, sblee@eeyore.taz.tac.com (Sue Bauer-Lee)
Subject:   Re: bulding new versions
Message-ID:  <199803012111.QAA15695@eeyore.taz.tac.com>
In-Reply-To: <19980301213755.51316@follo.net> from "Eivind Eklund" at Mar 1, 98 09:37:55 pm

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Folks -

I appreciate all the responses but we're not getting my problems solved.

1) I am unable to install autoconf. I shouldn't have to run sysinsyall for
   one package. m4 is installed. by what method? 
   make DISTDIR=/tmp install
   Tried to install autoconf the same way. It can't find m4. Both were
   manually retrieved from the site that fetch expected to be able to get 
   them from  - prep.mit.....

2) I am unable to build (independent from ports stuff) a newer version of
   XFCE. Linux doesn't force me to use rpm, Solaris doesn't force me to use
   pkgadd - you get the point.

I would like an easier alternative to adding packages to FreeBsd. It has
taken quite some time to set up a productive env compared to previously
mentioned OSs. Based on security testing needs, and desire, I'd like to
not be convinced to replace FreeBSD with either Linux or Solaris x86 (both of
which I also use everyday).

PLease let's not miss the main points here..

> 
> On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 01:32:13PM -0500, Sue Bauer-Lee wrote:
> > > 
> > > > for the FreeBSD distribution? Can I not compile and install software of MY
> > > > choice? As indicated, I've run into problems using ports structure and
> > > > independantly of the ports structure.
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, but the answer is, of
> > > course, "sure you can."
> > 
> > One would think. So far, most things I've tried to compile outside of the
> > ports structure finds missing libraries, header files, etc.... Example -
> > Briam has copies of pertinent info. Please don't be so quick to jump. He
> > answered first and has the most info - I didn't anticipate a while group -
> > but this is GOOD. :) The short of it - when tryting to compile the newer
> > version of XFCE OUTSIDE ports structure, it was unable to locate 
> > 	a) libsx.h because the 'package' expected it to be in one place when in
> >        fact it was a level deeper something like /usr/X11R6/include/X11/libsx
> >        as opposed to /usr/X11R6/include/X11.
> >     b) /usr/lib/libofrms.a - NOT xforms but forms, I beleive which is part
> >        of the ncurses devel 'package'. Since I had installed Linux compat
> >        stuff, I created a link so that the 'package' could find the library.
> >        Problem became unresolved references - possibly a non-existent
> >        header file.
> 
> This is probably because the ports-collection generally try to clean up
> everything to follow FreeBSD directory conventions.  This keep your system
> 'clean', but might make it harder to use limited autoconf-scripts.
> 
> The problem is usually not significant, as most major programs exists as
> ports, and most configure-scripts aren't limited.  But if neither of these
> assertions hold true, you'll have slightly more problems than if you'd
> installed a non-port version of the program your problematic
> configure-script is probing for.
> 
> I didn't quite get your m4-problem - it might be that you have a wrong
> version installed compared to what things depend on?  Dependencies for ports
> are on explict versions, which can often be annoying.
> 
> Eivind.
> 


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