From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 14 15:22:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D21DD0726 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:22:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soulofroot55@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 598C22258 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:22:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soulofroot55@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id f15so46538010wmg.1 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 08:22:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=JSKL4S33AKDCGvmw7RxRqvbMUT0YAaul1DxE9vE4L34=; b=s18Ax5ZfBk5IZeATbh72HKWDlYdr30EWz0Dxp+CvDwVMly5IGLDA9ujUtk/dzskxxP auff29Hdto00jgEks6NH2Ut7CJKJ0JOLXUuHElTzjkYxX9KAe0GtnWibKaapo3JArDqK wBcAYTgewfolUy6mWZktI4MWia+Kj+HEU0g2Ktb18z/rIde/KrVNqgS2DapVaeJ3QAZr R233xImto1GWSaL2KwelXgE0/k5ysXpFgiMD7NDaoPYEEi83AaTsHYWLYfo7QZ3ovXi3 S/WWpRKO/BONfrVcZ9ikEYO/QXnsbUUs2Sm+at9pR3lh92oI518YyWMowBNNWf2edmdr FDWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=JSKL4S33AKDCGvmw7RxRqvbMUT0YAaul1DxE9vE4L34=; b=i3NqLhZzMnLlOSsiIsmYI/mv15tXpdEDd88jYkMfy8kNVAWZekwq9bsicqB+kL9btP WsIuaGSoaNUxvJPCt7sWTdtzMPUwHKAF+1itZR6U+hhz71GRbSQVg/GSABNk1ZiyoPdx q7lHLO4oA8jaMDJfbXmoSri1ZhU/7gaigcP42iEO3OliBH0Hdln74PiKRcqIVt1CBkRX wPqEAsl6ETWuKSkRasCMfEzpzc7Pb0FuiGYrbFwuYk3vH4paEJ5zRO2fbOpEJ0qCW58M eUQC1ri3MRCb6nvqvWbuhlD28jXJo1Ziotw2mo/0vo66u56SC1zweomRyxw2awcZppji sXNQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5gekjvZ7JXIZmpYpiu47mzn1p0xMTEbmdLCo07HVCgo1vtc3BRM YO4wrQypOc5Wrr1jH/MoW326uq310FW7 X-Received: by 10.80.147.134 with SMTP id o6mr25753664eda.102.1502724173171; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 08:22:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.168.129 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 08:22:52 -0700 (PDT) From: SOUL_OF_ROOT 55 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:22:52 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: The history show that Theo de Raadt was right about virtualization? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:22:55 -0000 https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=119318909016582 From: Theo de Raadt > Virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits. You've been smoking something really mind altering, and I think you should share it. x86 virtualization is about basically placing another nearly full kernel, full of new bugs, on top of a nasty x86 architecture which barely has correct page protection. Then running your operating system on the other side of this brand new pile of shit. You are absolutely deluded, if not stupid, if you think that a worldwide collection of software engineers who can't write operating systems or applications without security holes, can then turn around and suddenly write virtualization layers without security holes. You've seen something on the shelf, and it has all sorts of pretty colours, and you've bought it. That's all x86 virtualization is. The history show that Theo de Raadt was right about virtualization?