Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 09:17:02 -0800 From: "Rasheed Abdulla"<icrespo@minvih.gob.ve> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: We wish to engage your services... Message-ID: <20170112170809.4E916312EFFC@correo.minvih.gob.ve>
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I was specifically requested to contact you in account of your striking pr= ofessional record. Having gone through the lines and now convinced of your = credibility, I am writing under the instruction of my superiors, who are me= mbers of the economic planning commission of Bahrain. = We wish to engage your services for a task / contract in your locale and w= ould like to confirm if you are still dutifully active in your career. If i= nterested, kindly confirm your current status so we may provide complete de= tails upon reading from you. = - Regards, = Rasheed B. Abdulla Member Foreign Economic Relations Directorate (FERD) B= uilding 100, Road 1702, Block 317, PO Box 333, Diplomatic Area Manama, Kin= gdom of Bahrain Tel; (011 973) -16,199093 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 17:39:11 2017 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EF2CACF7A for <freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CFDC15EE for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:40:46 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A7B53CC42; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:39:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0CHd1or003003; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:39:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:39:01 +0100 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Is there a dedicated mail client for list messages ? Message-Id: <20170112183901.5df2b5fa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20170112164536.3562e4bf@archlinux.localdomain> References: <mailman.129.1484222402.46410.freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> <VI1PR02MB09741B87F98BC73CF495AF9CF6790@VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com> <20170112161707.874d23a0.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170112164536.3562e4bf@archlinux.localdomain> Reply-To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 0766369041F X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2425 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:39:11 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:45:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:17:07 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > >On a message, use the mailer's reply function "Reply to all" or "Reply > >to mailing list". > > > >Again, allow me to recommend Sylpheed. > > Sylpheed, as well as Claws-Mail invoke mailing list replies by "Reply" > and not by "Reply All". This does cause a different reply behaviour, > depending on an overwritten or not overwritten "Reply-To" header by the > mailman settings chosen by the list owner and it depends on the fact > that a subscriber does use a "Reply-To" header or not. That is correct. Actually Sylpheed has four "reply modes", if my observation is correct: Reply -> reply to Reply-To: address, or to From: address if no Reply-To: address is specified Reply to sender -> reply to From: address explicitely Reply to list -> reply to Cc: address(es), usually the list Reply to all -> reply both to Reply-To: (or From:) _and_ Cc: address(es) On this mailing list, I've read the suggestion several times that "reply all" is preferred, so that users who write a question to the list without being subscribed to the list can receive answers directly, and still the list will get the reply for the subscribers. > The advantage is, if a subscriber, e.g. on an open list like FreeBSD > does use the "Reply-To" header and it's not overwritten with the mailing > list address (FreeBSD question's doesn't, but other mailman lists > sometimes do), then all replies to mailing list are CC'ed to the > original author, who not necessarily is subscribed. > > The disadvantage is, that I actually needed to remove Polytropon > <freebsd@edvax.de> from the CC address bar. That is correct so far. :-) > Assuming Polytropon should protect himself against duplicated mails, by > using the mailman subscriber setting for this purpose, he unfortunately > would receive original mails without a mailing list header, since > mailman just doesn't path through duplicates. IOW in this case a reply > to a mailing list wouldn't work for him at all, he would need to add the > mailing list address manually. I think that's what the "reply to list" function is intended for. Personally, I have no problem with (sometimes) receiving replies two times, I just continue using the mailing list message so the message IDs and thread information is kept. > Actually there is no MUA able to handle all mailing list reply > possibilities automatically, if the users of a mailing list don't > understand the mailing list settings made by the list owner and the > behaviour of different MUAs. Yes, there are several such aspects that depend on mailing list user preference ("we prefer 'reply to all'" or "only reply to the list"), and mailing list system configuration (dealing with sender information, From: and Reply-To: headers). It is not possible to automatically find out which aspects apply to a certain mailing list. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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