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Date:      Sun, 28 Mar 1999 05:43:44 -0700
From:      Donald Wilde <>
To:        Brad Benson <>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Working in the IT Field - Trials and Tribulations
Message-ID:  <>
References:  <000001be78e9$294a4980$6400a8c0@BillyJoeBob>

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Brad Benson wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 1999 at 12:07:03AM -0500, Brad Benson wrote:
> > > You said before the network isn't connected to the Internet. If it's a
> > > closed system you shouldn't have to worry a lot about your
> > security on the
> > > NT box. Unless you have some skilled and disgruntled employees.
> > I would make
> >
> > What's that statistic again about the percentage of security incidents
> > that come from the inside?
> I don't know about the statistics. I can say that the biggest security
> issues I've had, in the companies I've done work for, had little to do with
> the OS. Employees working on these closed networks often take security as a
> joke. I can't count the times I've gone into a company where most employees
> new the root or admin password. I used to do a lot of work with NetWare and
> it was even worse. People would setup a network and just give every user
> supervisory rights. It doesn't matter how tight the OS is if everyone has
> the password, or no one setup the security right in the first place. I'd put
> money on the fact that any statistic on internal security has a lot to do
> with this type of problem.

I've worked at companies that _were_ connected to the Internet where the
CEO insisted we take passwords _off_ all the W95 clients so he could do
his employees' work himself or snoop theirs. One wanted to kill the
server passwords, too, but I drew the line... =8-O

Actually, SOftware magazine had a security article a while back ( ~9
months ) and I think the percentage was around 90% for _internal_
sabotage. CEO's don't like to know there are ramifications for screwing
their employees.

Donald Wilde              "Bringing the Internet to everyone!"
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