Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:22:30 +0100 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation Message-ID: <20111230142230.cb68d503.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111230080510.52653cec@scorpio> References: <CAGy-%2Bi-NN_SOYrrE6WgHyCBa5VzFexwT_C9UYhO3GyjvfsxpAA@mail.gmail.com> <20111230073958.3949a17b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111230071500.6de15cf4@scorpio> <4EFDB022.10904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20111230080510.52653cec@scorpio>
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:05:10 -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:35:46 +1000 > Da Rock articulated: > > > Was this really necessary to post to the list? Publicly? Opinions are > > your own, but this does appear rather vindictive and not really > > wanted on a friendly list. > > > > For reference Polytropon has been rather helpful many times on this > > list regardless of how many faux pas maybe made; I'm sure you're not > > without fault either. > > The fact is that Poly has taken "negativity bias" to a new level. I > fully realize that part of this is due to his socialist/fascist > upbringing; however, that in itself does not justify it. Can you please stop that shit?! You're starting impolite attribution which is not justified on this list, and not in general life. If you would live in _my_ country (luckily you don't), that would be a case for court. Be happy to have this right of expression, even if you're abusing it on nearly any occassion you can get. And replace "negative bias" with "negative experiences", so it becomes the truth. Finally, our _individual_ experiences are what forms our opinions which we turn into statements. Luckily, logic is free of subjective argumentation, and I think that's why you focus on individual statements in order to insult people instead of dealing with the logic statements they bring, because that would maybe force you to re-think your _own_ position! > I did take a class in quantum physics in college. However, I can > assure you that I would never attempt to pretend to understand it nor > lecture about it. Yet, according to his own statements, not mine, he > has no knowledge of Microsoft yet he continues to lecture on it. As I said before: Not true. You're building your argumentation on a false assumption, leading the whole statement to be wrong (logic 101). Your knowledge from the quantum physics class - it should be something that you can elaborate on, and use in discussions. Even if it was "long ago" (in college), as long as this knowledge of yours is present (and correct), you can make use of it, use it even in concluding "new" things, and putting it into relation to other theories (e. g. superstring theory, gravitation). And why shouldn't you? Knowledge you gain and that you can _apply_ opens discussion fields, even if you enter them by a false assumption or wrong conclusion. Whenever you _learn_ something, it's not worthless. Except _you_ would judge gain of knowledge always in consideration of where it can be applied, and what amount of time it consumed. That is a fully justified point. That's why I'm also paying attention what to learn - be it fundamental UNIX knowledge that made me access many different UNIX and Linux systems, or "Windows" knowledge that is obsoleted as soon as a new version is out, and you need to repeat re-learning things. After all, even the pure fact of _learning_ is good, at least for the brain (which benefits from any learning, no matter if it's short life knowledge or fundamental stuff). Learning keeps your brain healthy. > That > is pathetic. You are pathetic. > That would be akin to me reading the cover page for an > application available on FreeBSD, one that I had never used and then > giving a lecture on its use and implementation. But isn't that what you sometimes do? If I understand your intial claim correctly, you stated there was no N device documentation in FreeBSD. (Note: This is a conditional statement. You're very fast in skipping such fine details in expression, that's why I think it's worth mentioning it again: "if - then", this means "if not, then not" in this case. So read it carefully.) >From "man iwn": Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965/1000/5000/5150/5300/6000/6050 IEEE 802.11n driver ^ Is that what you meant? Of course, this (just like the module sources) is _not_ intended as an end-user step-by-step illustrated guide on how to get networking up. And finally, there are tools to help you with that (typically coming with desktop environments). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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