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Message-ID: <20200717140510.2c559842@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <49db33f8-3d2d-d8e4-80e8-8226d5a8b717@yuripv.dev> References: <140a6398-f8ad-ecd6-2a6f-5ca28f570a64@gmail.com> <20200717085305.ffd5191c.freebsd@edvax.de> <8158aa31-493c-d316-9dbe-fcf35f569baf@gmail.com> <49db33f8-3d2d-d8e4-80e8-8226d5a8b717@yuripv.dev> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B7VF33zvzz40pL X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=XvMXMK3F; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.89 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.982]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.29)[-0.294]; SUBJECT_ENDS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.02)[-1.018]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 12:05:28 -0000 On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 14:22:42 +0300, Yuri Pankov wrote: >Y'all must have the special edition of Win10 handed as a punishment to >those who likes to hijack questions@ (and now stable@) with "the grass >was greener" threads :-) I have never seen it do anything with >removable media I have attached, be it FreeBSD, illumos installation >usb sticks or hard drives, or simply some data disks. Hi, nowadays even upstream FLOSS projects tend to be careless, see https://forum.nomadbsd.org/t/integrity-check-of-images/125 . What do expect from Windows software downloaded and installed without an integrity check? Windows defender and other snake oil security guards [1], as well as the need to confirm that you are sure you want to let this program make changes to your computer gains nothing, after the security issue is introduced in the first place, by getting software from somewhere, that can't be verified. https://www.csoonline.com/article/3222066/how-to-detect-and-remove-a-rootkit-in-windows-10.html Probably almost all Windows installs are "special editions". Regards, Ralf [1] They are better in spreading FUD than protecting a Windows install. Your PC does perform at half speed, half of the disk space is used by unneeded files and you are prone to attacks! Skip for now or upgrade from the gratis version to the pay monthly version to fix all issues.