From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 12:22:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94D03A7C for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52E21D65 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-162.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BF263CE4E; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:22:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t1JCMLaV002239; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:22:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:22:21 +0100 From: Polytropon To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: What's in my hard drive? How can I get rid of it? Message-Id: <20150219132221.b5d14e68.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150218184227.GC26575@neutralgood.org> References: <54E39F83.70002@gmail.com> <20150218173047.GA53030@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150218184227.GC26575@neutralgood.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:22:23 -0000 On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:42:27 -0500, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > Also be aware that some juries have been known to accept the argument that > incriminating evidence _must_ have been on the disk since you went to such > trouble to destroy it. And so they vote 'guilty' despite there not being > any direct evidence of any crime. Excuse me, but what poop-minded movie is _that_ from?! In my (layman's) education about law I learned that "could", "would", "should", and a bright imagination don't lead you anywhere in a constituational state that is prout on providing a legal system under the requirements of the rule of law. It's the job of the investigators to _prove_ you're guilty, not your job to prove you're not. Of course, that job isn't always easy, I can understand this, and far too often, the criminals get away because they know "some clever tricks". But it's fully unacceptable that the whole thing turns around in such a way that there is a _chance_ that innocent people get convicted because of the _absence_ of evidence. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...