From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 01:54:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA6237B401 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cyberonic.com (mail.cyberonic.com [4.17.179.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4136C43F75 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (node-40244c0a.sfo.onnet.us.uu.net [64.36.76.10]) by mail.cyberonic.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6H9MVcU021674; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 05:22:31 -0400 Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.12.9/8.11.6) id h6H8sdGn078028; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:54:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:54:39 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Luigi Rizzo Message-ID: <20030717085439.GC35337@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Luigi Rizzo , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org References: <20030717080805.GA98878@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030717084333.GB35337@funkthat.com> <20030717015052.B46015@xorpc.icir.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030717015052.B46015@xorpc.icir.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Things to remove from /rescue X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:54:31 -0000 Luigi Rizzo wrote this message on Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:50 -0700: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:43:33AM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > David O'Brien wrote this message on Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:08 -0700: > > > - ipfw & natd & ipf & ipfs & ipfstat & ipmon & ipnan, why would one needs > > > these? /rescue is to fix a borked /, not replace PicoBSD. > > > > ipfw I can see as useful. If you have a kernel that defaults to closed, > > and you need to access the network, then this is a problem. If we had > > actually, this is trivial to fix: > > sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0 I didn't know about this. :) My objection to removing it has been removed. :) I now support removing ipfw and friends (from /rescue). -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."