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Date:      Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:03:00 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Threading/KSE problem
Message-ID:  <20050920190300.GA94596@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.43.0509201446510.9634-100000@sea.ntplx.net>
References:  <433058CB.60807@samsco.org> <Pine.GSO.4.43.0509201446510.9634-100000@sea.ntplx.net>

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On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 02:55:50PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Scott Long wrote:
>=20
> > Daniel Eischen wrote:
> > >
> > > Sure, symbol versioning would be great to have, but I still don't
> > > know why library versions are bumped when they don't need to be.
> > > It's like we've thrown up our hands and said "Something has changed
> > > in one or more of the libraries, and we don't know how this affects
> > > other libraries, so we're going to bump them all."  Speaking for
> > > the thread libraries, they were not users of any of the changed
> > > ABIs -- there was no reason to bump them.
> > >
> >
> > We have a very strong history of making changes in our base libraries
> > that have very unintended consequences.
>=20
> And as far as I can recall, we have ironed them all out in -current
> before any release.
>=20
> > Try running the Java binaries
> > for 4.x, the only ones that we are certified to distribute, on 5.x or
> > 6.x.
>=20
> Why?  Do they not work with the compat libraries installed?

No, they're completely useless thesedays except on 4.x.

Kris

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