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Date:      Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:33:19 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Howard Lew <hlew@www2.shoppersnet.com>
To:        David Greenman <dg@root.com>
Cc:        jwm@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, FreeBSD-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, root@meeko.eecs.Berkeley.EDU
Subject:   Re: AMD K6 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.970714232230.16409B-100000@www2.shoppersnet.com>
In-Reply-To: <199707140001.RAA00716@implode.root.com>

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On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, David Greenman wrote:

> >	I ma currently test driving an AMD K6/200 in a
> >FIC PA-2005 motherboard and I am getting a lot of crashes.
> >(actually it looks like a reset, no cores, no console messages
> >just a spontaneous reboot). I am wondering if anyone has seen
> >the K6 do similar things.  The vendor says "The K6 does support
> >UNIX", but I am inclined to believe that he doesn't have a clue.
> >I am thinking I will return the K6 and get a Cyrix M2, any thoughts?
> 
>    In tests here with a K6/166, I've been having some reliability problems
> that I've isolated to the CPU. The main symptom is that "make world" will
> stop with a random error. When I first got the hardware, everything worked
> fine - I did at least 10 "make world"s without any trouble, but then things
> started getting flakey. I've heard similar reports from two other people,
> so this appears to not be an isolated problem.

Hmmm... I didn't do any make worlds, so I have not seen the problem.  I 
have only recompiled the kernel several times, but never had a stability 
problem.  There were some rumors on the unoffical AMD web site that there 
may have been an early batch of the K6s which had a bug which delayed the 
initial shipments.  If you guys got ones from the early batch not long 
after it first came out, this could be the cause of the problem.

What motherboards are you guys using?

If any of the FreeBSD users got their K6s from authorized resellers, 
the cpus may be under a full 1 year warranty despite the fact that the 
resellers claim 1 month only.  Overclocking of course voids it (AMD also 
warns that using any voltage above the specified voltage can damage the cpu).

Things to notice... Not sure if this is accurate, but it appears that new
K6s do not show the "PR2" but just the clock speed.  Do they have a B on
the top surface? 





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