Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 20:43:57 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org> Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r333880 - head/sys/kern Message-ID: <CANCZdfqGJ88mk6CkZjFjPM0j_n%2Bj9tfkR6YtWHewGunzv=%2B61w@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <637a69d0-fbc9-552b-49fd-9d029eb592f4@FreeBSD.org> References: <201805191729.w4JHTvOo032116@repo.freebsd.org> <201805191945.w4JJjMlk017155@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <CANCZdfrMjf8LgwUy4rL53m-XAM9P0fa-cb=cD5%2BV5Br%2Bevussw@mail.gmail.com> <6814.1526761972@critter.freebsd.dk> <CANCZdfo41DjRWBovb0soN1SnfeiQ_n3nxpqOKj_HCnuUSZ-fVA@mail.gmail.com> <637a69d0-fbc9-552b-49fd-9d029eb592f4@FreeBSD.org>
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On Sat, May 19, 2018, 8:40 PM Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org> wrote: > > On 19/05/2018 16:02, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> > wrote: > >> -------- >> In message <CANCZdfrMjf8LgwUy4rL53m-XAM9P0fa-cb= >> cD5+V5Br+evussw@mail.gmail.com> >> , Warner Losh writes: >> >> >> > Log: >> >> > Restore the all rights reserved language. >> >> "All Rights Reserved" is boilerplate from the old "Buenos Aires" >> copyright convention, (a purely N+S American affair) and it lost >> all meaning and relevance for UCB when USA ratified the Berne >> Convention 60 years ago. >> > > The US ratified the Berne Convention in 1989, which falls in the middle of > the 4.x BSD releases... Relevant for 4.3, but not 4.4. > > >> The final Buenos Aires signatory joined Berne a couple of decades >> ago, rendering the convention null and void, and therefore this >> boilerplate has no meaning or relevance for anybody. >> > > Right, I get that. However, someone removed it. Even though it's useless > at this point, I don't believe we can remove it. > > For the record, and with the usual disclaimer that I am *not* a lawyer ... > > I attended a talk from a lawyer from Google that explained adding the "All > Rights Reserved" line didn't mean what it intended to mean previously (or > much at all) but that removing it was intended as having a meaning. In sum, > and while I didn't completely grasp the issue is not clear all lawyers > would agree on removing the line. > > For old code it is what is, but perhaps the effort should be done for new > code, starting here: > > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/pref-license.html > Looks like i missed one. I'll fix it. > Feel free to take it to core and a real lawyer :). > Been there done that already. That's why we have rehashed this like 4 times now... Warner >
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