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Date:      Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:29:08 +0000
From:      Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk>
To:        Marc Slemko <marcs@znep.com>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: no newgroup/newgrp in FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <20010116232908.D1731@tao.org.uk>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.20.0101161445270.6880-100000@alive.znep.com>; from marcs@znep.com on Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 02:50:41PM -0800
References:  <XFMail.010116144340.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <Pine.BSF.4.20.0101161445270.6880-100000@alive.znep.com>

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On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 02:50:41PM -0800, Marc Slemko wrote:
> 
> A non setuid wrapper would still not provide the same functionality that
> newgrp does, which is part of what I'm repsonding to.
> 
> And login -f does not preserve things like environment, cwd, etc. like
> newgrp does which matters when you have environment variables that vary
> (eg. ssh authentication agent).  And you are then logged in twice.

I've often wished for this, when in sysadmin mode and logged into a
remote server over a difficult to replicate method :)  (like ssh over
ppp over brian;).

Joe

> > Sure, there are lots of other ways to do nearly the same thing.  
> Including simply logging out and logging in again.  The point is simply
> that newgrp would not be a noop on freebsd if it were implemented and does
> have some useful, if minor, functionality.
> 
> 
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