From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Oct 5 20:27:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792F7E41D41 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 20:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from msa1.earth.yoonka.com (yoonka.com [88.98.225.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "msa1.earth.yoonka.com", Issuer "msa1.earth.yoonka.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23D7CCC3 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 20:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from ultrabook.yoonka.com (x2f7ff22.dyn.telefonica.de [2.247.255.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa1.earth.yoonka.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v95KRON7062022 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2017 20:27:25 GMT (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) X-Authentication-Warning: msa1.earth.yoonka.com: Host x2f7ff22.dyn.telefonica.de [2.247.255.34] claimed to be ultrabook.yoonka.com Subject: Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20171004161649.GA51883@mail.michaelwlucas.com> <59D546FD.30906@gmail.com> From: Grzegorz Junka Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 20:27:19 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB-large X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2017 20:27:28 -0000 On 05/10/2017 19:54, Baho Utot wrote: > > > On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: > >> Here's my take on that. >> >> The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders >> 2 years ago with their development of a better pkg system. >> > > [putolin] > >> Don't let the few old school die hearts who are afraid of any change >> and make the most noise influence you. There will always be edge case >> user who think their needs out weight what is best for the group. > > So what you are really saying is Go to hell old farts we don't need > you here. We are not going to listen to you as you are too old to > know anything. You are old and stupid. > > It is looking like I will need to move away from FreeBSD if that is > really what is being accomplished here. But do those old farts have anything interesting to say or they are just making noise? What's the alternative to the proposed direction? GrzegorzJ