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Date:      Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:15:47 -0700
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Don Lewis <truckman@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        kris@obsecurity.org
Subject:   Re: Softupdates not preventing lengthy fsck
Message-ID:  <20050412221546.GB65915@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <200504121951.j3CJpCCY036689@gw.catspoiler.org>
References:  <425BE215.4090406@samsco.org> <200504121951.j3CJpCCY036689@gw.catspoiler.org>

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On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:51:12PM -0700, Don Lewis wrote:
> On 12 Apr, Scott Long wrote:
> > Kris Kennaway wrote:
>=20
> >> I can take a transcript of the entire fsck next time if you like :-)
> >> (it ran for more than 5 hours on the 24G drive and was still going
> >> after I went to bed)
> >>=20
> >> Kris
> >=20
> > Don might not know that your workload involves creating and deleting
> > full ports/ trees repeatedly, and those trees contain hundreds of
> > tousands of inodes each.
>=20
> I suspected that, especially given the inode timestamps in the partial
> transcript.

Actually the ports trees are not recreated (they're mounted via nullfs
and accessed read-only), and the files that are created are due to
building, installing and uninstalling of ports on a plain old ufs2.
It's still a lot of files though.

> > If there is a reference count leak and those
> > deletions aren't ever being finalized, then there would be a whole lot
> > of work for fsck to do =3D-)  Might also explain why disks have been
> > unexpectedly filling up on package machines (like mine).
>=20
> Sounds likely.  When the disk starts looking unexpectedly full, can you
> unmount the file system or does the attempt fail with and EBUSY error?
> What happens if you fsck the file system after it has been unmounted?
> Are snapshots being used?

Scott was the one who tried to repair the system after this happened,
so he can probably answer it better.  I'm certainly not using
snapshots myself.

Kris


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