From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 21:45:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16687 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:45:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16682 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:45:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id VAA18816; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:44:19 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199809010444.VAA18816@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:44:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: chad@dcfinc.com, mike@smith.net.au, don@calis.BlackSun.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199808312129.VAA00492@word.smith.net.au> from Mike Smith at "Aug 31, 98 09:29:51 pm" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Tracking either -stable or -current without reading the logs is like > > > anything else your mother warned you about. > > > > This seems like an escalation of responsibility for the user. > > I guess that depends on what counts as escalation. There's a tradeoff > between how much you're willing to risk vs. how much work you're > willing to do to avoid it. As I mentioned, I'm fairly certain that > Bill mentioned in his announcement about the xl driver that it replaced > the vx driver for the hardware it supports. As I mentioned in mail to Bill, I subscribe to and read the -stable mailing list. Nothing in it jumped out and said, "after Aug 24, if you build a new kernel your existing network interface will quit working." As you pointed out in earler e-mail, PCI device drivers imply a mutual exclusion, which means the upgrade was not optional. I'm probably thick, but I claim that was not obvious to a more-than-casual user. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message