From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 12:45:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61EFC1065670; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD918FC0A; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5ACjCV0075830; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:45:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5ACjCgb075827; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:45:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:45:12 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Martin Wilke In-Reply-To: <20120610140407.62ad9de8.miwi@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20120610140407.62ad9de8.miwi@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:45:12 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: What still requires HAL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:45:13 -0000 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Martin Wilke wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:01:08 -0600 (MDT) > Warren Block wrote: > >> Does Gnome still require HAL? Does KDE? xfce does not. Are we >> approaching a point at which the xorg-server port option for HAL can >> be set to default to off? > > > Xfce4 need hal as well, (thunar), It used to, using hal for automounting removable media. Support for that was removed upstream in xfce a while back, 4.6 I think. Maybe hal can do something else for xfce, but I haven't noticed it since removing hal a year ago. > I prefer to let hald enabled as default. Reason is a lot pepole still > need it. Yes, unfortunately. We can only ask porters to make hal optional when the ported software supports that.