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NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.89)[0.895,0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 00:50:25 -0000 On 18 Feb 2020, at 20:39, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >=20 > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:51 PM Ed Maste wrote: >>=20 >> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 05:37, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >>>=20 >>> Maybe its a time to give OpenBSD a try.. >>=20 >> I really don't understand this comment, either. Certainly give = OpenBSD >> a try and if it fits your needs better that's great. >>=20 >> As far as I'm aware OpenBSD issues a release every six months and >> supports the most recent two releases, so it seems odd to me to >> complain about FreeBSD's ~1 year minor release support lifetime and 5 >> year stable branch support lifetime in that context. >=20 > Its more like "lets try if what I need works better over there". Not > really the release timeline. >=20 > The release timeline problem is more related with pushing untested > features (and possible avalanche of solutions that introduce yet > another complications that we observe right now). >=20 > "The BSD Way", for me, was always about "it works solid or its not > there". Like macOS / iOS. >=20 > Unlike "The Linux Way" where things changes upside down from release > to release and each one of them has its own universe of variants. Like > Android. >=20 > I am not sure if it is that important if there is a release in 6 month > or 2 years. Not a problem at all. If in two years I get a 5 new > features that work rock solid then it seems a better choice than > getting new features every six months and have more problems on a > production because of that. >=20 > If I need to experiment there is a CURRENT branch. For well tested > features I have STABLE. For rock solid "I bet my money on that" I have > a RELEASE. Right? >=20 > I did miss the 12.0 EoL kind of fix for DRM, sorry, it seems > reasonable. I am just worried that 12.2-RELEASE will have the same > problems, if not more new problems. It is something you can help with, run 12.2-STABLE on some spare = equipment and report problems that affect *your* environment.=