From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Feb 12 15:04:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19202 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19194 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:04:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr01.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15550; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:03:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr01.primenet.com(206.165.6.201) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd015298; Fri Feb 12 16:03:46 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23640; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:02:49 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199902122302.QAA23640@usr01.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Fascinating GPL License 8) To: brett@lariat.org (Brett Glass) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:02:38 +0000 (GMT) Cc: jcwells@u.washington.edu, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990212154305.04be99d0@mail.lariat.org> from "Brett Glass" at Feb 12, 99 03:46:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If I ever advertise a product based on code that incorporates that > license, I may need to point to a Web page and say that the list > of credits on the page is "incorporated by reference." Otherwise, I'd > overflow any ad I could afford, even if I used minuscule type! The > folks deserve the credit, but I don't think the intent was to make > it impossible to advertise. [ ... ] > >> * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software ------------------------------------------- > >> * must display the following acknowledgement: > >> * This product includes software developed by the University of > >> * California, Berkeley and its contributors. So, for example, if you used sendmail before the license changed, and one of your bullet items was "Supports Delivery Status Notification", you would have to display the acknowledgement. But if you didn't bullet-item any features particular to the software, and you didn't bullet item something like "Industry standard sendmail", then you wouldn't have to display the acknowledgement. It's only if you are advertising specific features or incorporation of specific software that you have to acknowledge where you got it. This whole "the advertising clause is too onerous" idiocy is just that: idiocy. You wouldn't be able to bullet item all of the features of just sendmail on one page. Fitting the list of features is more of a problem than the list of acknowledgements that would be required as a result of doing so. FYI, the reason that Berkeley had assignment of license requirements, and the reason code says "contains code donated to Berkeley by Genentech" and similar organizations is to leave the clause at "the University of California, Berkeley and its contributors". If anything, the lack of a requirement to assign license to "The FreeBSD Project, Inc." or some other single entity, and the number of unassigned incorporated programs is what makes the list so large, were you to trigger the advertising clause. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message