From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 00:44:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6E0106566B for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 769D08FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32296 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 2011 00:44:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2011 00:44:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=5986v3Qd/D9Fls72JOoHxGe2nQsZD3CcZ2kjgFQgtnc=; b=aRR/7PXXyLkye8vldl4Rl24xVfWa7wuxSUxL881TeIf+QVpGXg4YqfSbU2xz/tg+vNt66ctK1fPG8JS+sbw5PaorU2YZeeBksq6mQtHt6bQ7X19AEj6eQIuvhgM1kZ6m; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QxTU2-00024i-2v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 18:44:19 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 27 Aug 2011 18:25:59 -0600 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 18:25:59 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110828002559.GA57036@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <16851_1313817220_4E4F4284_16851_6517_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521886E@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110825043208.fe201707.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:44:19 -0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 01:56:16PM -0500, Evan Busch wrote: > I can see this will be important here: >=20 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma >=20 > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > > > In most cases, documentation requires you to have a minimal clue of > > what you're doing. There's terminology you simply have to know, and > > concepts to understand in order to use the documentation. >=20 > See the Wikipedia page above -- the problem isn't one of user > competence, but of poorly-written documentation that is fundamentally > disorganized. False dilemma. Hmm. You were right. That *was* important. >=20 > Have you looked at any of the documentation coming out of Redmond right > now? Yes. >=20 > How do you think FreeBSD's documentation stands up to that? Quite favorably. > > > > Different kinds of users have different preferences. Some like to use > > the web, like to use Wikis and discussion boards. Others like to use > > structured web pages. Again, other like web pages too, but want to > > have as much information in _one_ (long) page. And there are those > > who do not want to depend on the web - those like man pages. >=20 > The question isn't form, but content. You commented on the "disorganized" state of the documentation. That's a matter of form. > > > > Here the "one size fits all" problem arises. It's really hard to make > > documentation "for everybody". >=20 > I disagree. It's very clear what must be done because multiple > archetypes exist. "Archetypes"? I do not think it means what you think it means. > > > > You can "predict" that everywhere. Just go to any halfway specialized > > setting and make claims about something not meeting your requirements >=20 > I've never had this problem when the claims have been stated > professionally -- only here. There was nothing professional about your statements in general. Move along, now. It is obvious you have no interest in honest discussion of the merits and demerits of things FreeBSD-related. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5ZixcACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXgMACePwxDhlDL2Rw9FXTvSKo7Zqif MEIAoOIwgskXvGDr90tD87Gp/1HuSXgZ =LJuC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 00:48:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8C4106570C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:48:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07F48FC1C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywo32 with SMTP id 32so4654198ywo.13 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 17:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.29.4 with SMTP id g4mr3748480ybj.75.1314492526546; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 17:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([187.112.12.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm1056098ybm.3.2011.08.27.17.48.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 27 Aug 2011 17:48:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:48:45 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) References: <20110827195806.GA9802@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110827195806.GA9802@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201108272148.45697.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:48:49 -0000 On Saturday 27 August 2011 16:58:06 Frank Shute wrote: > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 01:56:16PM -0500, Evan Busch wrote: [Snip..] > > > > If so, it's just them trying to cover up the inherently defensive and > > reactionary nature of their comments. > > They're inherently defensive and reactionary because you're trolling. > > > Would they send such an email on a business list? > > Who cares? It's not a business list. > > > > You can "predict" that everywhere. Just go to any halfway > > > specialized setting and make claims about something not > > > meeting your requirements > > > > I've never had this problem when the claims have been stated > > professionally -- only here. > > OK, so you'll be able to provide links then? > > Thought not. Well, I don't know about everybody else but I don't believe that the aim of this gentleman's OP was about being constructive, at all. Like somebody had already said here, he was just a kid that threw a rock on a wasp's nest, didn't have legs to run fast enough, and now he is crying all over the place because he got stung. So, to exhaust everything I have to say on this subject, I will try to translate the best I can, two popular sayings here in my country. I hope I can make their meaning get through. To his criticism on documentation: "To a good 'understander', a half-word is enough." To his deliriously vague critique on FreeBSD in general: "The dogs always bark. But the caravan steadily moves on." -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 00:52:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829AE106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48EE88FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12517 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 2011 00:52:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2011 00:52:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=cVby1G7URlgYtpKfXimE/T4Awp805NC/1g+Sb1rZAy4=; b=jnv3cAVjfUz49dAsp+jwju3aT6Auo/KIYOjGz14PKiJUtlS0DKcTp2hWuLz7f8aCFF6uzDWZP+bXdIDKa2W3c90jgvKfPYJoNI6b7YcS08/ekxTozIGIFlPTP7A9RwxY; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QxTby-0008Q2-0I for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 18:52:31 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 27 Aug 2011 18:34:11 -0600 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 18:34:11 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110828003411.GA57166@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110827195806.GA9802@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <201108272148.45697.lobo@bsd.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201108272148.45697.lobo@bsd.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:52:31 -0000 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 09:48:45PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: >=20 > So, to exhaust everything I have to say on this subject, I will try to > translate the best I can, two popular sayings here in my country. I > hope I can make their meaning get through. I think both translations carried quite a lot of relevant meaning. Good job. >=20 > To his criticism on documentation: >=20 > "To a good 'understander', a half-word is enough." That has a very Tao Te Ching feel to it. >=20 > To his deliriously vague critique on FreeBSD in general: >=20 > "The dogs always bark. But the caravan steadily moves on." That has a very folk-wisdom feel to it. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5ZjQMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXflACgwSKS5L2eDA7SjWeNcPDSSia5 EBcAoIk0UVfLQRwhd9qI3fubWvPEQV13 =Zdfl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 02:41:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937C8106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 02:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from datastorm01@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0418FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 02:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywo32 with SMTP id 32so4694812ywo.13 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:41:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=7wZroBRLCfkDH1qA0a2VHqFzP6NvcBbLRNZ2k+TIdnE=; b=G7SYoYStMZqn1Oi7lk6ZvBbDSxfGDWLz3eXtRaNn8I/Hh0qSnJe8p8ETxroRvylU6g o3MsijOR7JW2prMNaFY81nK8u9g5MTXLYzHZGJ03EXgFCq8b2Cc0HRXydr9YjEzNi1Sl MKfoCkkvcRwmebrYONi1U5z3mKVPZFGPZeBA0= Received: by 10.42.175.197 with SMTP id bb5mr3390332icb.204.1314497873820; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beer.unixhacker.net (CPE-124-179-89-18.lns7.cht.bigpond.net.au [124.179.89.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j9sm1741416ibl.18.2011.08.27.19.17.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E59A54B.1010704@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:17:47 +1000 From: Jason User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110202 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig936993DE2CFA61C46D253DB0" Subject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 02:41:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig936993DE2CFA61C46D253DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/28/11 02:21, Paul Beard wrote: > I seem to be missing something, possibly from reading too many HOWTOs. = What I am trying to do is get a system with a wireless card to stand in a= s a wireless AP should my aging LinkSys base station develop a tragic smo= ke leak.=20 > > It's an ath0-based card and the following steps suggest it should work = (it has HOSTAP capabilities and offering robust encryption).=20 > > ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0 > ifconfig wlan0 list caps > drivercaps=3D6f85ed41 > cryptocaps=3Df > > But various permutations of rc.conf, hostap.conf and many iterations of= /etc/rc.c/netif restart leave me with two ifconfig entries, one of the a= th0 interface and one for wlan0. None of the examples show this so I susp= ect it's wrong. The IP address is pingable from the host it's installed i= n but not from anywhere else. And I can see the AP from another system an= d attach to it but it doesn't route any traffic.=20 > > from /etc/rc.conf:=20 > wlans_ath0=3D"wlan0" > create_args_wlan0=3D"wlanmode hostap" > ifconfig_wlan0=3D"inet 192.168.0.26 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid lower mo= de 11g channel 8" > > from hostap.conf:=20 > interface=3Dwlan0 > debug=3D1 > ctrl_interface=3D/var/run/hostapd > ctrl_interface_group=3Dwheel > ssid=3Dlower > wpa=3D0 > > redacted results of ifconfig:=20 > ath0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu= 2290 > ether 00:0d:88:93:21:3a > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g > status: running > > wlan0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mt= u 1500 > ether 00:0d:88:93:21:3a > inet 192.168.0.26 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > inet6 fe80::20d:88ff:fe93:213a%wlan0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7=20 > nd6 options=3D3 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g > status: running > ssid lower channel 8 (2447 MHz 11g) bssid 00:0d:88:93:21:3a > regdomain FCC indoor ecm authmode AUTO privacy OFF txpower 27 > scanvalid 60 protmode CTS wme burst dtimperiod 1 -dfs > > Yes, I am trying it without any encryption until I see some packets bei= ng passed.=20 > > It seems like a lot of people are getting this to work but I'm not able= to follow how they did it.=20 > -- > Paul Beard > > Are you trying to win an argument or solve a problem?=20 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg" 8.2 RELEASE p2 (ath card, works dhcp wpa) # /etc/rc.conf wlans_ath0=3D"wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0=3D"WPA DHCP" # /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ctrl_interface=3D/var/run/wpa_supplicant network=3D{ ssid=3D"BigPond455FC2" key_mgmt=3DWPA-PSK proto=3DWPA psk=3D"B104264B61" } I hope this helps jason --------------enig936993DE2CFA61C46D253DB0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Sun, 28 Aug 2011 03:09:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F53C8FC12 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 03:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-72-156.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.72.156]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01F73CC57; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:09:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p7S39QNZ001946; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:09:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:09:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Evan Busch Message-Id: <20110828050926.4e7d0389.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <16851_1313817220_4E4F4284_16851_6517_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521886E@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110825043208.fe201707.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 03:09:29 -0000 On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:56:16 -0500, Evan Busch wrote: > I can see this will be important here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > But allow me to say > > that _if_ you are interested in contributing in _that_ > > way, you should always bring examples and name _concrete_ > > points you're criticizing, instead of just mentioning > > wide ranges of "this doesn't conform to my interpretation > > of what 'professional' should look like". > > The problem with your statement is that it does not allow for general > critique, which is also needed. If something shows up in more than one > place, it is a general critique. No. General critique would require to be general, means: it would have to apply in all (or at least most) places. To advance from specific to general critique, it would be useful to show at least _some_ examples where it would apply, and then say something like: "There's more around the corner." But _before_ considering general statements, specific ones would have to be discussed, just to make sure the one that came to your mind wasn't an exception of the rule. >From logic, you should know that allquantified statements (those including "all", "none", "every", as well as "none" or "never") are easy to disprove: Only one (!) counter- example is required. A = q ^ w ^ e ^ r ^ t ^ z ^ u ^ i -> false <===> (at least) one of (q, w, e, r, t, z, u, i) is false, to put it into a formal expression. > > In most cases, documentation requires you to have a minimal > > clue of what you're doing. There's terminology you simply > > have to know, and concepts to understand in order to use > > the documentation. > > See the Wikipedia page above -- the problem isn't one of user > competence, but of poorly-written documentation that is fundamentally > disorganized. Oh again you put additional emphasize on it: "fundamentally". This implies there's a general problem with the documentation. Could you please _name_ that problem, instead of just mentioning that there is one? > Have you looked at any of the documentation coming out of Redmond right now? Oh god no! Why wouold I look into disorganized documentation that cannot even be received by blind users, and that invents arbitrary words for established technical terminology, changing all the time? :-) > How do you think FreeBSD's documentation stands up to that? Wery well I'd say: It can be accessed offline, for free, and by all audiences (including exceptional ones such as blind or deaf users). > > Different kinds of users have different preferences. Some > > like to use the web, like to use Wikis and discussion boards. > > Others like to use structured web pages. Again, other like > > web pages too, but want to have as much information in _one_ > > (long) page. And there are those who do not want to depend > > on the web - those like man pages. > > The question isn't form, but content. Form and content have to be matching when you're talking quality. Would you accept a letter from your local tax administration that is correct by content, but written on used toilet paper? On the other hand, how would you think about a book that is pure crap, but written on golden paper with leather? > > If you're used to some specific _way_ of documentation, you > > will maybe value anything that's _different_ from that way > > as being inferior, non-professional, or less helpful. > > I think I'm talking about professional level documentation, not a > specific "style." Professional always implies a specific target audience which has the abilities to learn how to use a given kind of documentation. As I said, mainframe documentation is _very_ different from what you might know, but it is _extremely_ professional for those who deal with it - to solve problems. > > Also keep in mind that especially for developers, the SOURCE > > CODE also is an important piece of documentation. Here FreeBSD > > is very good, compared to other systems. > > We're talking end-user documentation here. Suddenly? I just thought we would talk professional documentation here... By the way, a thing like end-user documentation does not exist. End users do not need documentation. They don't read anything. At _most_, they'd look at colored pictures, but not act according to them. Documentation is the first thing they throw away (in many cases right before they throw away installation media), because "they don't need what they don't know". Do I have a strange look at end users? Maybe, but according to my observations and experiences, it's a realistic look. Yours might be quite different. > > Here the "one size fits all" problem arises. It's really hard > > to make documentation "for everybody". > > I disagree. It's very clear what must be done because multiple archetypes exist. Then, how would you suggest a "one size fits all" documentation should look like? Maybe you can point to a resource available on the Internet to show what you have in mind. I'd be interested in seeing if the underlying concept could be adopted by the things that are part of the FreeBSD documentation. One thing to keep in mind: When we are talking about FreeBSD documentation, there is the documentation concerning the base system, the OS itself. This documentation is maintained by the FreeBSD team. It consists of the man pages, /usr/share/doc content, the FreeBSD website with the FAQ and the Handbook. Additional software brings its own documentation. Some place text and HTML documentation in /usr/local/share/doc, some have good man pages (e. g. mplayer, opera, xmms), others do not have any of such documentation (e. g. firefox, thunderbird, any KDE program). Instead, some have local HTML documentation available locally, others point the user to a web site, a wiki, or something the like. Those 3rd party applications choose the kind of documentation _they_ think is useful for their target audience. > > Note the presence of ":-)" and the abilities of english native > > speakers who are much more able to express "between the lines" > > than I am, for example. > > If so, it's just them trying to cover up the inherently defensive and > reactionary nature of their comments. > > Would they send such an email on a business list? Would _you_ send statements like yours to a business list? With which results other than: "Dear Sir, please be more specific on your problems so we might help you. For this information, you've been charged $19.95. Thank you." :-) > > You can "predict" that everywhere. Just go to any halfway > > specialized setting and make claims about something not > > meeting your requirements > > I've never had this problem when the claims have been stated > professionally -- only here. But the claims HAVEN'T been stated professionally. You didn't bring _one_ example, not for "unprofessional" documentation, not for "professional" documentation. You're missing the basic structure of a professional argumentation, which consists of making a statement or a claim, then offering arguments that backup the claim, and additionally bring examples for those arguments. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 03:40:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7EE106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 03:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF78B8FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 03:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 555 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 2011 03:40:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2011 03:40:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=ng8YZOBZb4s+OwmDV9Qnu8RLOhaAf0Ps51anhK/lMIM=; b=kxcPl7xv22UufGUOCJoFT3R2M11iU4hZRWylatLuckSvRzxigSSyD5qtzPIVG3A1rCGhr/Jxb9ZNe7YKQbrSCGK3heyfPIvSF6iLi5CpnFH5Wf6T0CTTPLFHVCp7vJ0F; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QxWEF-0002Jl-4t for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:40:12 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:21:52 -0600 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:21:52 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20110828032152.GA57683@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <16851_1313817220_4E4F4284_16851_6517_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521886E@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110825043208.fe201707.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110828050926.4e7d0389.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110828050926.4e7d0389.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 03:40:13 -0000 --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 05:09:26AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:56:16 -0500, Evan Busch wrote: > >=20 > > I've never had this problem when the claims have been stated > > professionally -- only here. >=20 > But the claims HAVEN'T been stated professionally. You didn't bring > _one_ example, not for "unprofessional" documentation, not for > "professional" documentation. You're missing the basic structure of a > professional argumentation, which consists of making a statement or a > claim, then offering arguments that backup the claim, and additionally > bring examples for those arguments. I've decided to provide the "professional" response "Evan" claims to crave: Dear Evan, We appreciate your feedback on the quality, scope, and focus of our software and documentation. We always strive to provide the highest quality products and service to all of our customers, and constantly seek new ways to improve on perfection. The input of our customers is a key element of our strategy to consistently provide what they need in a timely and responsible fashion. Your ticket number is d3b07384d113edec49eaa6238ad5ff00. Your case worker is Robert Jones. 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Why eth0 is detected if I have just a 3G broadband usb m= odem Onda msa 190 up in a usb port? =A0 =A0Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 04:04:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B39106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED00D8FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 184-78-197-203.war.clearwire-wmx.net ([184.78.197.203] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QxWbk-0008CW-BK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:04:05 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:04:28 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:04:28 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20110828040427.GA2017@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <16851_1313817220_4E4F4284_16851_6517_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521886E@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110825043208.fe201707.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110828050926.4e7d0389.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110828032152.GA57683@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110828032152.GA57683@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:04:34 -0000 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Saturday, 27 August 2011: > On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 05:09:26AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:56:16 -0500, Evan Busch wrote: > > >=20 > > > I've never had this problem when the claims have been stated > > > professionally -- only here. > >=20 > > But the claims HAVEN'T been stated professionally. You didn't bring > > _one_ example, not for "unprofessional" documentation, not for > > "professional" documentation. You're missing the basic structure of a > > professional argumentation, which consists of making a statement or a > > claim, then offering arguments that backup the claim, and additionally > > bring examples for those arguments. >=20 > I've decided to provide the "professional" response "Evan" claims to > crave: >=20 > Dear Evan, >=20 > We appreciate your feedback on the quality, scope, and focus of our > software and documentation. We always strive to provide the highest > quality products and service to all of our customers, and constantly > seek new ways to improve on perfection. The input of our customers > is a key element of our strategy to consistently provide what they > need in a timely and responsible fashion. >=20 > Your ticket number is d3b07384d113edec49eaa6238ad5ff00. Your case > worker is Robert Jones. Your ticket is: >=20 > [ ] Pending Action > [ ] Open > [X] Closed: Complete >=20 > Your account has been charged $14.99 for successful completion. Note > that this special 25% reduced support pricing will only apply for > actions until September 15th. Take advantage of the discounts now! >=20 > If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to use the support > form on the Website. Thank you for your business. >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Perfect, except you didn't charge enough -- and you didn't ask him to complete a survey. --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOWb5LAAoJEIpckszW26+Rf1QH/2HtgkrQMJBE+i7nuQLOpw1m yNKeIsj5Ym0y3UZ53srRKcf661jutRK/N5CsWL8Hg7hYO1NrCzUDRSaEun5n09V1 wWbQHuTBY5AvIGM8g5pNVohNBpWNSYJxPCTm8K1UOCCJVVdC7iXQUt+pevdDv+yY TFw6fKPwgZRmNglsao6CJF/ug8rhGxLrCeXmfE7wqZvgCEvSJARMgEczpeasbkZl 7rHhRQS+6MetG494WNZjAGU9qFHGtJrMtCak+S8G7N4lV4O3BuaIaWcKJGIBOD+u eZEF/fnkyjpncLgu1In1cdrA3zeSWSv/cH5uskhgQBC71nUsrsouNXFeX8RIuDE= =i/KH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 04:05:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A305F1065672 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E52E8FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [66.253.36.39]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2F0B528405; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 22:48:15 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110822 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Beard References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:05:44 -0000 On 08/27/2011 11:21 AM, Paul Beard wrote: > I seem to be missing something, possibly from reading too many HOWTOs. What I am trying to do is get a system with a wireless card to stand in as a wireless AP should my aging LinkSys base station develop a tragic smoke leak. > > It's an ath0-based card and the following steps suggest it should work (it has HOSTAP capabilities and offering robust encryption). I just finished something almost exactly like this a little while ago. > But various permutations of rc.conf, hostap.conf and many iterations of /etc/rc.c/netif restart leave me with two ifconfig entries, one of the ath0 interface and one for wlan0. None of the examples show this so I suspect it's wrong. The IP address is pingable from the host it's installed in but not from anywhere else. And I can see the AP from another system and attach to it but it doesn't route any traffic. > > > > redacted results of ifconfig: > ath0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 2290 > ether 00:0d:88:93:21:3a > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g > status: running > > wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > ether 00:0d:88:93:21:3a > inet 192.168.0.26 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > inet6 fe80::20d:88ff:fe93:213a%wlan0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7 > nd6 options=3 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g > status: running > ssid lower channel 8 (2447 MHz 11g) bssid 00:0d:88:93:21:3a > regdomain FCC indoor ecm authmode AUTO privacy OFF txpower 27 > scanvalid 60 protmode CTS wme burst dtimperiod 1 -dfs This looks correct so far, for an unsecured wireless access point. The wlan0 device is the interface you will use for communicating; the ath0 device exists solely as a target for wlan0 creation. Things to keep in mind: tcpdump(1) is your friend; it seems cryptic and obtuse at first glance, but it will help immensely wlan0 itself will not assign v4 addresses to clients; you need a DHCP server for that The hostap machine must be explicitly told to route packets, by setting gateway_enable="YES" in rc.conf and adding the appropriate routes If you're intending this to be a home gateway, you will likely also need NAT. > Yes, I am trying it without any encryption until I see some packets being passed. Good idea. Hope this helps! -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 04:08:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DC31065673 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906198FC17 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so4772706gwb.13 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:08:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=Q0eRWr+oc2WqCH5tr4Ib8s2aynt+OYxBkqJoTKs4Xm4=; b=M0r2Cde2qN4kDseNhRHJY3dgyi22iNwRxnKcm7l+ARc1o3X0cM5tFPyWFYAGwt8c66 u75LWAFtEyC9ItJ80TGFDkm3C2WDQRWEANkTF/f1um/ekdPq6ikd4uVAh+uoESiGCY/m oYllXcI2nh2cWaQxs2ZPtSa02cQ30HSoJuecw= Received: by 10.143.97.16 with SMTP id z16mr1623231wfl.357.1314504513334; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ivoire.paulbeard.org (c-76-121-105-198.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [76.121.105.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o8sm7498291pbe.4.2011.08.27.21.08.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:08:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Beard Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:08:30 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:08:34 -0000 On Aug 27, 2011, at 8:48 PM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > tcpdump(1) is your friend; it seems cryptic and obtuse at first = glance, > but it will help immensely >=20 I wasn't sure there was any reason to use that yet: I can't even ping it = from another host.=20 > wlan0 itself will not assign v4 addresses to clients; you need a DHCP > server for that >=20 I plan to use static addresses as I do already (this is just a backup in = case my WRT54G develops any issues).=20 > The hostap machine must be explicitly told to route packets, by = setting > gateway_enable=3D"YES" in rc.conf and adding the appropriate routes >=20 I have that and the existing wired interface has the route set (I am = connecting through that to make this work). This raises the question of = whether I am expecting the functionality of a bridge without having = specifically made one.=20 > If you're intending this to be a home gateway, you will likely also = need > NAT. I think NAT is handled by the telco hardware (on cable) for now.=20 Hmm, starting to think this may not work as I expect. It might be fine = as an additional AP but not as a replacement without some configuration = changes that I will have forgotten how to make by then. The WRT box runs = the PPPoE connection for DSL which I should be switching back to. I'm = sure it can be done with this but I think I'm asking for trouble.=20 So maybe this is a solution in search of a problem. Might be to just = find a spare WRT54G or its modern equivalent.=20 But that doesn't mean I don't want to figure this out.=20 -- Paul Beard Are you trying to win an argument or solve a problem?=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 05:30:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F92106566B for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBFA8FC13 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-72-156.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.72.156]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265A43CB53 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:30:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p7S5UpJg027635 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:30:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:30:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20110828073051.1ec5b66a.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Identifying disk activity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:30:54 -0000 Since I have installed my new system (FreeBSD/i386 8.2-STABLE), I have found some kind of disk activity I've never had before on my home system. As this PC is a very cheap product, it doesn't have a HDD LED. Instead I have to listen to the disk. This is the strange sound: four groups of short "brrrrt" sounds within a second, with a short pause between them. #####-----#####-----#####-----#####----- = 1 s This can be heared over several seconds, then silence. From time to time, a "brrrt" sound appears for 3 seconds in one long rush. I am not sure this is related to a program, but I'd like to find it out. As FreeBSD's I/O subsystem does not work in real-time, I cannot conclude from actual program file I/O to physical disk I/O. Is there a way to force "synchronous disk activity"? I don't mind if this makes the system run slower, because it's just for diagnostics, but I'd like file I/O done by a program to cause immediate disk activity. My idea is to watch open files and running programs as precise as possible (as root: "top -St -s 0"). Which tools (e. g. top, htop, lsof) would you suggest to narrow down _which_ program is accessing _which_ file, causing the sound? I already do suspect Opera (due to opera-linuxplugins-11.50, linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.5, nspluginwrapper-1.4.4 maybe), but I'd like to know _where_ exactly this strange sound came from, as there is no 1:1 relation (running Opera does not imply the sound to appear). I have already checked "smartctl -a /dev/ad4" which doesn't show any malicious behaviour of the disk itself (sometimes also the reason for strange sounds). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 05:54:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264011065673 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FB68FC12 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7S5sWUJ035193; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:54:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p7S5sWbi035190; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:54:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:54:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20110828073051.1ec5b66a.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20110828073051.1ec5b66a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:54:32 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Identifying disk activity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:54:36 -0000 On Sun, 28 Aug 2011, Polytropon wrote: > Since I have installed my new system (FreeBSD/i386 8.2-STABLE), > I have found some kind of disk activity I've never had before > on my home system. As this PC is a very cheap product, it doesn't > have a HDD LED. Instead I have to listen to the disk. > > This is the strange sound: four groups of short "brrrrt" sounds > within a second, with a short pause between them. > > #####-----#####-----#####-----#####----- = 1 s > > This can be heared over several seconds, then silence. From > time to time, a "brrrt" sound appears for 3 seconds in one > long rush. That could be a "t-cal", thermal calibration. Depends on the age and model of the drive, some drives don't do it. Could be other internal drive activity. WD drives like to park heads often, loudly, and for no good reason. > Is there a way to force "synchronous disk activity"? Turning off soft updates will help, but not make disk writes totally synchronous. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 06:01:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D62C106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AD98FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-72-156.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.72.156]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABA23CB08; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:43:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p7S5hbbW027664; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:43:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:43:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Brett Glass Message-Id: <20110828074337.aca652f9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201108272301.RAA02327@lariat.net> References: <201108272301.RAA02327@lariat.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System hanging, error messages with USB drive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:01:30 -0000 On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 17:01:24 -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > I'm working with a FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE/amd64 machine that's > attempting to write data to an ordinary Kingston 8 GB microSD card. > The card has been inserted into its USB adapter and plugged into a > USB port on the machine. The system is locking up repeatedly with > messages that say > > (da1:umass-sim1:1:0:0): SYNCHRONIZE CACHE(10). CDB: 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > (da1:umass-sim1:1:0:0): SCSI sense: Error code 0x52 > > A Web search reveals that problems like this have cropped up for > many, many FreeBSD users as far back as 4.x. But I can't seem to > find any solution (which amazes me; if there's a bug, one would > think it would have gotten some attention). Do I have to abandon > the use of FreeBSD with USB thumb drives (or maybe with USB > altogether)? Hope not, but I may have to if I can't get this fixed. I'm not sure if this will help you, but I also had similar problems with a Kingston USB stick (normal storage stick, no removable microSD card). It didn't work on any of my FreeBSD systems. So I finally returned it to the shop and got a Sony USB stick instead - no problems, works fine. So this is my assumption: Some hardware vendors maybe improperly implement the USB protocol in their devices, so any OS requiring standard conformation of the attached devices (which are malfunctioning according to the USB protocol specifications) signals an error. I also have a "multi card reader" (CF, SD, microSD and who knows what else, it's a "hama USB 2.0 Card Reader 35 in 1") which attaches per USB. It also does not work properly (also causes, at least when I tried it the last time on a 7-STABLE system). The built-in card reader of my home PC works fine instead. Recently, I had to access the USB stick of a friend. The stick didn't work at first try, and the friend told me to try multiple times; he stated that he would have to do that on his Linux system too. So I tried a second time - and magically, the stick worked as intended. Maybe this approach can help here too? But when you say that attaching the USB adaptor causes the system to _hang_, this means that the OS detected a severe hardware malfunction. The OS doesn't stop for no reason; it does so in order to prevent further damages. This behaviour is intended. What's _not_ intended is hardware manufacturers poorly caring for the implementation of the "software part" in their storage devices. Sadly that's not a typical sign of "el cheapo" stuff anymore - even expensive devices sometimes suffer from that poor quality, i. e. their _customers_ are suffering. :-( So if you have problems with such hardware, returning it is an option, and then try some different brand or model. It helps if you print out a dmesg report - looks exceptionally good when done on green-bar paper :-) - and use a red marker to highlight the USB related error messages. Then just say: "This USB adaptor is broken." No average salesman will disagree, and you should immediately get your money back. I've tried that, it works fine. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 06:03:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E54106566C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7288FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so15472403pzk.18 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:03:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=j7xIWZY+0eG6S2G5WdBp9WoB9f3+/0174wiyYYYJmZk=; b=e7kYslUU4RCLfCP9BEaXsgEiFamXHBmr4OAk8JCZX9OpS/TM4s8CARy7eTWx4F25rZ ta6aqhmnCDbq3Nl0ikkK7BjmHcLCRBASLk9oMRXsIYFA74oqyL0rJOfvv4nPj4Tg7XYJ DPm2NhusNlhFAt36cpVqDIL75cTGgN2/KhorQ= Received: by 10.142.150.5 with SMTP id x5mr1763496wfd.260.1314511437434; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ivoire.paulbeard.org (c-76-121-105-198.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [76.121.105.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a6sm3550228wfg.3.2011.08.27.23.03.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:03:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Beard Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:03:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> To: FreeBSD Questions References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> Message-Id: <11161811-16AA-4678-97C2-3D2D9C9D327B@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: bridged wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:03:58 -0000 On Aug 27, 2011, at 8:48 PM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > This looks correct so far, for an unsecured wireless access point. The > wlan0 device is the interface you will use for communicating; the ath0 > device exists solely as a target for wlan0 creation. After some more head scratching, it sounds like what I want is a bridge. = Reading if_bridge(4), the first example looks a lot like what I am = trying to do.=20 My initial attempt didn't fare any better but I expect I have a lot of = cruft to dig through from the earlier attempts.=20 Did I misread this? Does sending packets between two physical interfaces = require a bridge? No other docs have mentioned it but of their "easy = instructions" have worked either.=20 -- Paul Beard Are you trying to win an argument or solve a problem?=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 06:11:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF47106567A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10268FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:11:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-72-156.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.72.156]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36783CA09; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 08:11:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p7S6BfcG027766; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 08:11:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 08:11:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20110828081141.880862f5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20110828073051.1ec5b66a.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Identifying disk activity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:11:43 -0000 On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:54:32 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 28 Aug 2011, Polytropon wrote: > > > Since I have installed my new system (FreeBSD/i386 8.2-STABLE), > > I have found some kind of disk activity I've never had before > > on my home system. As this PC is a very cheap product, it doesn't > > have a HDD LED. Instead I have to listen to the disk. > > > > This is the strange sound: four groups of short "brrrrt" sounds > > within a second, with a short pause between them. > > > > #####-----#####-----#####-----#####----- = 1 s > > > > This can be heared over several seconds, then silence. From > > time to time, a "brrrt" sound appears for 3 seconds in one > > long rush. > > That could be a "t-cal", thermal calibration. Depends on the age and > model of the drive, some drives don't do it. Could be other internal > drive activity. WD drives like to park heads often, loudly, and for no > good reason. I didn't mention it's a WD, how did you guess? :-) % dmesg | grep ^ad ad4: 305245MB at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s Strangely, I didn't hear that sound when the system was running AMD64, it seems to have appeared on i386 and _sometimes_ in conjunction with Opera. I have removed the side panel of the PC box, but the sound still sometimes can be heared. The disk doesn't become spectacularly hot, but thermal problems are quite common to "modern" home consumer hardware - and this special PC seems to be _very_ "modern". I have used _many_ WD drives in the past, but none of them has even made such sounds. Seems to be a "modern" feature. > > Is there a way to force "synchronous disk activity"? > > Turning off soft updates will help, but not make disk writes > totally synchronous. Can this be done easily (e. g. "tunefs -n disable Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3581C106566C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3608FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe4 with SMTP id 4so4603270fxe.13 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:15:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qB4539gN19owW8pdz0I4uKpfoKgKKBkddp37+LjyL+o=; b=cum6yJHbfYNAfd4ChqkNzTswlyOr18tfBRM/gwwJYfOCIejkA3HvR3mgLbnUPik0z2 eJnlQpxY2+DOkJNtYVVWHokfXJ/7E5IVsMmZOk60m73lsjo8sKfDgefKaL2rswf3hX4O P3xG0C9mjaNXgXk9+pvzWjhFDn8ocSsNJ36EA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.55.205 with SMTP id v13mr1596976fag.88.1314512101554; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.120.72 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:15:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110828073051.1ec5b66a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110828073051.1ec5b66a.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:15:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Identifying disk activity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:15:03 -0000 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Polytropon wrote: > I am not sure this is related to a program, but I'd like to > find it out. As FreeBSD's I/O subsystem does not work in > real-time, I cannot conclude from actual program file I/O > to physical disk I/O. > > Is there a way to force "synchronous disk activity"? > well there is the mount -o sync option. > > My idea is to watch open files and running programs as > precise as possible (as root: "top -St -s 0"). Which > tools (e. g. top, htop, lsof) would you suggest to narrow > down _which_ program is accessing _which_ file, causing > the sound? > "top -Hm io " has revealed pesky apps in the past for me without using mount options. IIRC, you have to use procstat to find if something is using swap. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 07:20:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED474106566B for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2A48FC0C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p7S7KnVL027053 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p7S7KnTH027052; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA10668; Sun, 28 Aug 11 00:13:17 PDT Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:13:14 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: paulbeard@gmail.com Message-Id: <4e5a4cfa.EAAZ/6z2DtnIPYA/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> <11161811-16AA-4678-97C2-3D2D9C9D327B@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <11161811-16AA-4678-97C2-3D2D9C9D327B@gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bridged wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:20:51 -0000 Paul Beard wrote: > After some more head scratching, it sounds like what I want is a > bridge. Reading if_bridge(4), the first example looks a lot like > what I am trying to do. > ... > Did I misread this? Does sending packets between two physical > interfaces require a bridge? It requires either a bridge or a router. Which one you need depends on your and your ISP's setups. One thing to check is your "terms of service" (or whatever your ISP calls it). Unless you're paying commercial rates, they most likely limit you to a single IP address, in which case you _have_ to have a router* -- and almost certainly NAT -- somewhere between your LAN and the ISP. A bridge connects two (or more) segments of a single subnet: from an IP-addressing standpoint it's not much different from a hub or a switch. BTW, for your own protection, you also need a firewall. Home gateways like the WRT54G are usually set up to provide NAT, routing, and firewalling. * unless you have only one IP-addressed device on your LAN, in which case it can just go ahead and use the one IP address. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 10:51:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5352B1065670 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 10:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAEB8FC18 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 10:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p7SAphbx030135; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:51:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4E5A1DBF.7050306@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:51:43 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110821 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Olivares References: <861uw7wg6z.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <201108270601.43649.lumiwa@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how can I use portmaster to update but skip a package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 10:51:48 -0000 2011-08-27 13:18, Antonio Olivares skrev: > > I succeeded in updating like 5 packages out of 21, but now gnome-mount > does not compile :( > > gnome-mount.c:44:30: error: libnotify/notify.h: No such file or directory You don't seem to have libnotify installed which will get you notify.h. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 11:13:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBEC106566C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:13:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2D48FC15 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyd10 with SMTP id 10so4900683gyd.13 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:13:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7GsMXRgnWiXOJwUqZB7Zuo55LSlk/z/cm747iyooFag=; b=SwKoeP4nwiErR2NxExv9RbWqUzrj4EmK+xTJIffn+lpPR2e5mbxKWN6r6/d8NnRujP 4GWS87Wsr5IJ8Cu7/UsRkGR9m36+kQ2OkbuwhlxeEgP4MhWrmyj5ptz5gl1Lf0D8C1ZD JMmPjXtDJZd7W04FHdyCfolm2HTVL+Ssh66rQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.147.65 with SMTP id m1mr3764215icv.46.1314530009662; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.179.135 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:13:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E5A1DBF.7050306@bananmonarki.se> References: <861uw7wg6z.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <201108270601.43649.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4E5A1DBF.7050306@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:13:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Bernt Hansson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how can I use portmaster to update but skip a package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:13:30 -0000 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2011-08-27 13:18, Antonio Olivares skrev: > >> >> I succeeded in updating like 5 packages out of 21, but now gnome-mount >> does not compile :( >> >> gnome-mount.c:44:30: error: libnotify/notify.h: No such file or directory > > You don't seem to have libnotify installed which will get you notify.h. > It was there, but something could have been wrong? I cd'd to /usr/ports/devel/libnotify and ran make install clean, and it told me that it was already installed and that I should run make deinstall & reintstall again. After I did that, now gnome-mount gets updated and only Libreoffice bombs out: ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice ===>>> This port is marked BROKEN ===>>> build is too fragile and break too often -- try libreoffice-legacy ===>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove the BROKEN line in the Makefile and try again. ===>>> Update for libreoffice-3.3.3_2 failed ===>>> Aborting update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap1.FreeBSD.org... done. Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. No updates needed. Ports tree is already up to date. ===>>> New version available: libreoffice-3.4.2_1 ===>>> 669 total installed ports ===>>> 1 has a new version available This one might be worked on, so I think it will be better to wait for the problems to be worked on and then reinstall, unless someone has successfully updated to latest version and advices to proceed. Thanks for helping. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 12:13:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600BA1065675 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96858FC1F for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi36 with SMTP id 36so4882929wwi.31 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 05:13:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8Hz8/DdSiRYB9WU43aZSqBgsHb78/gsnVYwQOvVQLjo=; b=LyidrQ3iunJB5aiYcIoPB+JiRR/bHp4HS3DjKwuttnXE5t2n2Ft1sLK6LlrN79xvBK 7iqwthdqXGA6WrjWFtdbUCJdfQn8WzidDewlyepuZluiENCu8enZepBkw2Oods1Pkl4w t/QjmOehezP78FwjNbg02IJSb3btBvgyEihZQ= Received: by 10.227.19.213 with SMTP id c21mr2771883wbb.5.1314532254121; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:50:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.170.130 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:50:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Amitabh Kant Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:20:34 +0530 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Scritping sysinstall and custom iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:13:39 -0000 Hello I am trying to create a custom FreeBSD iso which will automate most of the steps asked in a standard installation using sysinstall. While "make release" is available, I was trying to modify disc1 iso, as it seems that I only need to have install.cfg for automating sysinstall. I downloaded the disc1 iso file (8.2 amd64 arch), created a memory disk using mdconfig, and then mounted the disk. The commands that I have run are: mdconfig -a -t vnode -f org.iso -u 0 mount_cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt mkdir custom_iso cd custom_iso rsync -a /mnt/ . Once I am done with the changes, I plan to run the following command to recreate the iso mkisofs -J -R -V CustomBSD -no-emul-boot -b boot/cdboot -iso-level 3 -o /usr/home/isotest/custom.iso . All the commands run fine and I am able to generate an iso. Now, couple of questions that have confused me: a) Where do I place install.cfg file for sysinstall to read without any user intervention? In the root directory of the disc1 layout or inside 8.2-Release / other sub directory? b) Is there a place where I can get a sample install.cfg with all the options explained? All I could find were different examples tailored to specific situations, most of them towards PXE boot. c) Is it necessary to define every step in install.cfg? I would like to keep disk partition / label and network configuration dialogs available (root password if necessary), while setting values for all other user dialogs and screens. Amitabh Kant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 12:38:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636A4106566C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C35C8FC18 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.143] (helo=smtp12.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QxedZ-0001CS-KO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:38:53 +0200 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp12.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QxedU-0000XM-7D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:38:48 +0200 Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 38464C; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:40:07 +0200 Message-ID: <4E5A36DB.7090200@nagual.nl> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:38:51 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QxedU-0000XM-7D X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.977, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D 0.67, KHOP_DYNAMIC 0.73, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: dick@nagual.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: portmaster -a -B -d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:38:55 -0000 A few days back I did a "portmaster -a -B -d" but later on I found out that one port (www/eAccelerator) complained about being compiled for another version of PHP (which by then was updated by portmaster). I expected portmaster to take care of these kind of dependencies. Where am I wrong in this assumption? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 13:18:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B12A1065672 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE548FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-72-156.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.72.156]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A883A253DA; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:18:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p7SDImQi029348; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:18:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:18:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Amitabh Kant Message-Id: <20110828151848.4a52ff6c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Scritping sysinstall and custom iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:18:50 -0000 On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:20:34 +0530, Amitabh Kant wrote: > All the commands run fine and I am able to generate an iso. Now, couple of > questions that have confused me: > a) Where do I place install.cfg file for sysinstall to read without any user > intervention? In the root directory of the disc1 layout or inside > 8.2-Release / other sub directory? According to /usr/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/install.cfg's location from which one would conclude that the sysinstall would be in /usr/sbin of the CD (as well as installed on the disk), I would assume install.cfg to be in the same directory as the sysinstall program itself - /usr/sbin. But it could also be /stand... > b) Is there a place where I can get a sample install.cfg with all the > options explained? All I could find were different examples tailored to > specific situations, most of them towards PXE boot. The file /usr/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/install.cfg does contain some comments for explaination. Also see "man 8 sysinstall" for the "SCRIPT SYNTAX" section. > c) Is it necessary to define every step in install.cfg? I would like to keep > disk partition / label and network configuration dialogs available (root > password if necessary), while setting values for all other user dialogs and > screens. I don't think it is neccessary (as assumed by the "incomplete" install.cfg mentioned above), but consult the documentation to be sure. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 13:29:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98087106566B for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BCE8FC0C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:29:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p7SDUhsZ041704 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 08:30:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 08:30:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201108281330.p7SDUhsZ041704@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Identifying disk activity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:29:26 -0000 > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:54:32 -0600 (MDT) > From: Warren Block > Subject: Re: Identifying disk activity > > > Is there a way to force "synchronous disk activity"? > > Turning off soft updates will help, but not make disk writes > totally synchronous. 'mount -o sync' does, however. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 13:31:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4F61065670 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4058FC19 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p7SDVbNr032893; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:31:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4E5A4338.9050903@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:31:36 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110821 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Olivares References: <861uw7wg6z.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <201108270601.43649.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4E5A1DBF.7050306@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how can I use portmaster to update but skip a package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:31:41 -0000 2011-08-28 13:13, Antonio Olivares skrev: > On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> 2011-08-27 13:18, Antonio Olivares skrev: >> >>> >>> I succeeded in updating like 5 packages out of 21, but now gnome-mount >>> does not compile :( >>> >>> gnome-mount.c:44:30: error: libnotify/notify.h: No such file or directory >> >> You don't seem to have libnotify installed which will get you notify.h. >> > > It was there, but something could have been wrong? I cd'd to > /usr/ports/devel/libnotify and ran > make install clean, and it told me that it was already installed and > that I should run make deinstall& reintstall again. After I did > that, now gnome-mount gets updated and only Libreoffice bombs out: > > ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice > > ===>>> This port is marked BROKEN > ===>>> build is too fragile and break too often -- try libreoffice-legacy > > ===>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove the > BROKEN line in the Makefile and try again. Have you tried to comment out the BROKEN line and rebuilt? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 13:38:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED167106566C; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8E78FC0A; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi36 with SMTP id 36so4919327wwi.31 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:38:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=2mtaJ+bZ2IzazfVhcEz7xklsyiPp165BoSYY0QPsbik=; b=olx8wPyrjsnOzmUskO2NFrJAOOebha60A17XYOAOE/Xg3sdwq37TXoFM/55NBmSHyS olY7w/E3HUk4NwBhdTgVBvqmVD7ibQsm5jODtssWYz/m3oiY1fTryRL3Gyu6y1IDX6ZK rbM3s4kZBntGjPbn81aYCKt4pTlXwPorGxrX0= Received: by 10.227.152.132 with SMTP id g4mr993327wbw.41.1314538709930; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.dg (41-135-58-221.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.135.58.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fy13sm1112526wbb.56.2011.08.28.06.38.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:38:28 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:37:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-BETA1; KDE/4.6.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart6641787.BOukoO0aal"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201108281537.40373.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.27 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:38:32 -0000 --nextPart6641787.BOukoO0aal Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.3.27 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. T= his=20 does contain XInput2 support. There are still reports of sound problems. = =20 To date there has been 920 (+62) downloads from mediafire. nVidia uses should rerun patch-wine-nvidia.sh after updating wine. =20 Regards, David [1]=20 MD5 (freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.3.27,1.tbz) =3D 03e3ecdd363ac0f343ba90eb8ef2e= c2a MD5 (freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.3.27,1.txz) =3D ef790879eb2e8cf823cc7cd874afa= bed [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 --nextPart6641787.BOukoO0aal Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk5aRKQACgkQUaaFgP9pFrKWrACbBPlPSgj2qE5FRAuaaxeAuLBe jSoAn2Z8XOZQSpkNQ9BFSEJY5rPFDyIN =qWDk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart6641787.BOukoO0aal-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 13:47:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EAC1065673 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5E18FC18 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywo32 with SMTP id 32so4924033ywo.13 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:47:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=07Qsr2UCPQBlkc8tHI/GA65LSfruiUtGicGvL9/kt6M=; b=C03jbgWkCJ7ipaxUrJpl2XK5h2F1HTNVfyDYscWCNK9ZbAhueDfnzfPfwOk7/LNPZm EnlrVMgg2/NG/PFOBtZxbXav7yvLOf3oDFvncrAz52bE0IAx7sSFGkY4tuc/+xAFTJ+G 970oZ6d5+/Zx0cRaEEsiTAwNt0h+VIkWyIQcM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.147.65 with SMTP id m1mr3912435icv.46.1314539233140; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.179.135 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:47:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E5A4338.9050903@bananmonarki.se> References: <861uw7wg6z.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <201108270601.43649.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4E5A1DBF.7050306@bananmonarki.se> <4E5A4338.9050903@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 08:47:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Bernt Hansson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how can I use portmaster to update but skip a package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:47:14 -0000 >>> You don't seem to have libnotify installed which will get you notify.h. >>> >> >> It was there, but something could have been wrong? =A0I cd'd to >> /usr/ports/devel/libnotify and ran >> make install clean, and it told me that it was already installed and >> that I should run make deinstall& =A0reintstall again. =A0After I did >> that, now gnome-mount gets updated and only Libreoffice bombs out: >> >> =3D=3D=3D>>> =A0Port directory: /usr/ports/editors/libreoffice >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D=3D=3D>>> =A0This port is marked BROKEN >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D=3D=3D>>> =A0build is too fragile and break too often = -- try >> libreoffice-legacy >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D=3D=3D>>> =A0If you are sure you can build it, remove = the >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 BROKEN line in the Makefile and try again. > > Have you tried to comment out the BROKEN line and rebuilt? > No, if the package fails to build what do I lose? except time of course. The package will stay where it is right? I don't if I should wait for the port maintainer to remove this by him/her(self); it is marked for a reason. In one of the machines I went with legacy, but the two at home, I have skipped updating this port. It is segfaulting and dropped an soffice.core in ~/ (home directory). It was working fine, but now I don't know if I should or not update it. Has anyone updated to latest? and is it recommended to try and build new package? Thanks & sorry for asking. I am not sure what to do here :( Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 14:04:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A799A106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C228FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [66.253.36.39]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4209728405; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 10:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4E5A4AEF.7050104@cyberleo.net> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:04:31 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110822 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Beard References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:04:33 -0000 On 08/27/2011 11:08 PM, Paul Beard wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2011, at 8:48 PM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > >> tcpdump(1) is your friend; it seems cryptic and obtuse at first glance, >> but it will help immensely >> > I wasn't sure there was any reason to use that yet: I can't even ping it from another host. It is especially useful when you cannot ping, as it can tell you if the packets are even arriving. In my case, it helped indicate that packets were arriving, but that, because I had re-used the SSID, the client was applying encryption settings (from the old AP) that the new AP was not expecting, and so the packets were arriving horribly mutilated. >> wlan0 itself will not assign v4 addresses to clients; you need a DHCP >> server for that >> > I plan to use static addresses as I do already (this is just a backup in case my WRT54G develops any issues). Static is just fine; just covering all points that came to mind. >> The hostap machine must be explicitly told to route packets, by setting >> gateway_enable="YES" in rc.conf and adding the appropriate routes >> > > I have that and the existing wired interface has the route set (I am connecting through that to make this work). This raises the question of whether I am expecting the functionality of a bridge without having specifically made one. Bridging using if_bridge(4) is a different beast, but one that seems much easier to set up in comparison. I am using it in a slightly different configuration for another project, and it's pretty straightforward. Bridging does not require gateway mode to be enabled, as the packet forwarding is performed within the bridge driver, instead of within the network stack. Because of this, however, proper firewalling of wired and wireless clients is more difficult, and can weaken the security of your implicitly trusted cat5 cables. >> If you're intending this to be a home gateway, you will likely also need >> NAT. > > > I think NAT is handled by the telco hardware (on cable) for now. > > Hmm, starting to think this may not work as I expect. It might be fine as an additional AP but not as a replacement without some configuration changes that I will have forgotten how to make by then. The WRT box runs the PPPoE connection for DSL which I should be switching back to. I'm sure it can be done with this but I think I'm asking for trouble. I cannot say this is an easy task, given the number of components involved in a functioning gateway. I can say that it is quite possible given the software involved, though, since I've been running a homebrew FreeBSD-based gateway for years, and just yesterday introduced built-in wireless to replace the aging WRT54G AP and reduce power requirements further. > So maybe this is a solution in search of a problem. Might be to just find a spare WRT54G or its modern equivalent. That would probably be the easiest solution; perhaps not the most satisfying, though. > But that doesn't mean I don't want to figure this out. Getting the wireless component functional by itself seems to be the biggest hurdle at the moment; after that, it's just one block atop another. I did recall one more potential issue: during testing with a Gentoo machine with an iwlagn adapter, my adjustments frequently confused the adapter so thoroughly that it refused to function correctly without a reset, even when the settings were correct. It's more annoying, but a full reset of all hardware involved after each change might help isolate any changes that put the hardware into an inconsistent state. Hope this helps! -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 14:27:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C231106566C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6A58FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7SERHYB099048 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:27:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p7SERHYB099048 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1314541637; bh=I6oqeKf6auGHvpA7aL20Zghnmr08jqIhDPSobtEFuIw=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E5A503D.7050303@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2028=20Aug=202011=2015:27:09=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0)=20Gecko/201 10812=20Thunderbird/6.0|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Dick=20Hoogendij k=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:= 20Re:=20portmaster=20-a=20-B=20-d|References:=20<4E5A36DB.7090200@ nagual.nl>|In-Reply-To:=20<4E5A36DB.7090200@nagual.nl>|X-Enigmail- Version:=201.3|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/ signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/p gp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig415A961B21E7B 95EFC535B4E"; b=RpTI1NZBW2icl63FoIxjojuDoUOmGl/JI0a3yZCQ8cWw3uLiCoD1R0Xxx1c5RK5Lu dzFaZsZgP6oTslo8g7ORZ4hG5ekeshRpKR4ZLA4pZ1OhQKTNHHqqLSq0aajfy1KyYy gdHDrQBL6vjSNBJW78FnaBcSmEufg6hg7DHGhsxo= Message-ID: <4E5A503D.7050303@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:27:09 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dick Hoogendijk References: <4E5A36DB.7090200@nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <4E5A36DB.7090200@nagual.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig415A961B21E7B95EFC535B4E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmaster -a -B -d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:27:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig415A961B21E7B95EFC535B4E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28/08/2011 13:38, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > A few days back I did a "portmaster -a -B -d" but later on I found out > that one port (www/eAccelerator) complained about being compiled for > another version of PHP (which by then was updated by portmaster). I > expected portmaster to take care of these kind of dependencies. Where a= m > I wrong in this assumption? eaccelerator is an oddity. It only works properly with the version of PHP it was compiled against. Unfortunately there isn't a good automatic mechanism in ports to say "recompile this port, because something it depends on was upgraded." It's like something that depends on a shlib in that respect, that needs to be rebuilt when the shlib ABI version changes. While it might be possible to do hackish things, like include the PHP pkg version string into the eaccelerator pkg version, on the whole the correct solution seems to be to reinstall eaccelerator each time PHP gets a significant upgrade. Ideally ports committers should bump the eaccelerator PORTREVISION to make ports management tools do that automatically, but if not, you're going to have to remember to do it by hand. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig415A961B21E7B95EFC535B4E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5aUEQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyzWwCfXKxB0spvZsn4TipjN3GLjt8W 8XgAoIL771rihe+AQdzA40kJ6pr3fxyy =Edwt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig415A961B21E7B95EFC535B4E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 14:36:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774621065673 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34AB68FC12 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7SEau8Q037354; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 08:36:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p7SEauIQ037351; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 08:36:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 08:36:56 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20110828081141.880862f5.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20110828073051.1ec5b66a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110828081141.880862f5.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 08:36:56 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Identifying disk activity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:36:59 -0000 On Sun, 28 Aug 2011, Polytropon wrote: >>> Is there a way to force "synchronous disk activity"? >> >> Turning off soft updates will help, but not make disk writes >> totally synchronous. > > Can this be done easily (e. g. "tunefs -n disable SUM to the unmounted partitions), without data loss? I have to > admit that I've never tried that before. SUM isn't needed, just have the filesystem unmounted. Never had data loss from it. Disabling write caching will also help to make filesystem writes more synchronous. There are several sysctls and some information on soft updates at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/configtuning-disk.html. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 15:21:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24662106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB428FC1A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07337; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:21:04 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201108281521.JAA07337@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:20:53 -0600 To: Polytropon From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <20110828074337.aca652f9.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <201108272301.RAA02327@lariat.net> <20110828074337.aca652f9.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System hanging, error messages with USB drive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:21:10 -0000 At 11:43 PM 8/27/2011, Polytropon wrote: >I'm not sure if this will help you, but I also had similar >problems with a Kingston USB stick (normal storage stick, >no removable microSD card). It didn't work on any of my >FreeBSD systems. So I finally returned it to the shop and >got a Sony USB stick instead - no problems, works fine. > >So this is my assumption: Some hardware vendors maybe >improperly implement the USB protocol in their devices, A Web search reveals that there are dozens which apparently have problems with FreeBSD, while Windows has problems with none of them. This leads me to believe that the problem is in FreeBSD, not the hardware. USB mass storage devices are, for some reason, handled by FreeBSD's SCSI/CAM subsystem, which seems to want to treat a USB storage device (a memory stick or a memory card in an adapter) as a full-out SCSI device when it is not. The SCSI commands which fail usually have to do with flushing the cache and/or other functions which just don't apply to a USB stick. It looks as if the devices which do not have trouble are just IGNORING the SCSI commands, not executing them. In short, FreeBSD really should not be trying to issue them in the first place. In short, this shouldn't be something that's handled by "quirks." Instead, the system simply should recognize that a USB memory stick is not a SCSI drive. --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 15:28:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A76106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F0A788FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 448 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 2011 15:28:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2011 15:28:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=cofO6l0Q5JEeGclkFEXCwrfj+O6Wwi2JK17+8ryMIVw=; b=AoEDyDZTdnNeFjrrgK5FXs32cVLreVu1KFyXijjQdQjWmOrK2CL4kMZj/+6RUX/Ldueajft7BxM49twzUq6ljIONuR2s7yGWct504phY30rjrm8LABxz68xfE0KkHIP9; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QxhI6-0007KP-Ie for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:28:55 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:10:34 -0600 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:10:34 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20110828151034.GA60519@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <16851_1313817220_4E4F4284_16851_6517_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521886E@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110825043208.fe201707.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110828050926.4e7d0389.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110828032152.GA57683@guilt.hydra> <20110828040427.GA2017@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110828040427.GA2017@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:28:56 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 09:04:28PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Chad Perrin on Saturday, 27 August 2011: > >=20 > > I've decided to provide the "professional" response "Evan" claims to > > crave: > >=20 > > Dear Evan, > >=20 > > We appreciate your feedback on the quality, scope, and focus of our > > software and documentation. We always strive to provide the highest > > quality products and service to all of our customers, and constantly > > seek new ways to improve on perfection. The input of our customers > > is a key element of our strategy to consistently provide what they > > need in a timely and responsible fashion. > >=20 > > Your ticket number is d3b07384d113edec49eaa6238ad5ff00. Your case > > worker is Robert Jones. Your ticket is: > >=20 > > [ ] Pending Action > > [ ] Open > > [X] Closed: Complete > >=20 > > Your account has been charged $14.99 for successful completion. No= te > > that this special 25% reduced support pricing will only apply for > > actions until September 15th. Take advantage of the discounts now! > >=20 > > If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to use the suppo= rt > > form on the Website. Thank you for your business. >=20 > Perfect, except you didn't charge enough -- and you didn't ask him to > complete a survey. In retrospect, I see that you are of course correct about the charge. I considered doing something with a survey, but it was a lot of work constructing something using soul-sucking corporate "customer service" lingo, and I just didn't have the energy left to write anything about a survey. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5aWmoACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKV0LgCbB6YXA0GnLZQ32bDN+O9JZQWS GR4AmgMs47p3UVxYblbAw9hfeo7GUzGQ =CqLh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 15:46:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636CB106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F008FC18 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:46:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7SFkiZA079023 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:46:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4E5A62DA.8080501@sentex.net> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:46:34 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <201108272301.RAA02327@lariat.net> <20110828074337.aca652f9.freebsd@edvax.de> <201108281521.JAA07337@lariat.net> In-Reply-To: <201108281521.JAA07337@lariat.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12 Cc: Subject: Re: System hanging, error messages with USB drive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:46:48 -0000 On 8/28/2011 11:20 AM, Brett Glass wrote: > At 11:43 PM 8/27/2011, Polytropon wrote: > >> I'm not sure if this will help you, but I also had similar >> problems with a Kingston USB stick (normal storage stick, >> no removable microSD card). It didn't work on any of my >> FreeBSD systems. So I finally returned it to the shop and >> got a Sony USB stick instead - no problems, works fine. >> >> So this is my assumption: Some hardware vendors maybe >> improperly implement the USB protocol in their devices, > > A Web search reveals that there are dozens which apparently > have problems with FreeBSD, while Windows has problems with > none of them. This leads me to believe that the problem is > in FreeBSD, not the hardware. The vendors most probably write their own drivers for windows. They do not for FreeBSD and its best effort for FreeBSD. I have yet to come across a USB umass device that needs a quirks setting to make it work. But I am sure there are many out there as there are dozens of different vendors/OEMs out there of all sorts of quality. Having to deal with the edge cases using a single command is perfectly acceptable to me. If setting a quirks value for FreeBSD is not workable for you, perhaps Windows is a better choice for your use. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 16:21:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421551065672 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107FA8FC1C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5BCEB2; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:21:06 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: Chad Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1EC4CC3CE4D19CBFF1622D33@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <20110828151034.GA60519@guilt.hydra> References: <16851_1313817220_4E4F4284_16851_6517_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521886E@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110825043208.fe201707.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110828050926.4e7d0389.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110828032152.GA57683@guilt.hydra> <20110828040427.GA2017@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110828151034.GA60519@guilt.hydra> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:21:08 -0000 --As of August 28, 2011 9:10:34 AM -0600, Chad Perrin is alleged to have said: > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 09:04:28PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >> Quoth Chad Perrin on Saturday, 27 August 2011: >> > >> > I've decided to provide the "professional" response "Evan" claims to >> > crave: >> > >> > Dear Evan, >> > >> > We appreciate your feedback on the quality, scope, and focus of our >> > software and documentation. We always strive to provide the >> > highest quality products and service to all of our customers, and >> > constantly seek new ways to improve on perfection. The input of >> > our customers is a key element of our strategy to consistently >> > provide what they need in a timely and responsible fashion. >> > >> > Your ticket number is d3b07384d113edec49eaa6238ad5ff00. Your case >> > worker is Robert Jones. Your ticket is: >> > >> > [ ] Pending Action >> > [ ] Open >> > [X] Closed: Complete >> > >> > Your account has been charged $14.99 for successful completion. >> > Note that this special 25% reduced support pricing will only apply >> > for actions until September 15th. Take advantage of the discounts >> > now! >> > >> > If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to use the >> > support form on the Website. Thank you for your business. >> >> Perfect, except you didn't charge enough -- and you didn't ask him to >> complete a survey. > > In retrospect, I see that you are of course correct about the charge. > > I considered doing something with a survey, but it was a lot of work > constructing something using soul-sucking corporate "customer service" > lingo, and I just didn't have the energy left to write anything about a > survey. --As for the rest, it is mine. What do you mean? All you need is some random link to a random survey URL. The fact that the survey doesn't mention anything about the product in question, the type of issue addressed, what type of response he was given, or anything else actually pertaining to his situation is totally irrelevant. As is the fact that the survey won't be read by anyone. ;) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. 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This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 16:22:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA231065678 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFF28FC16 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so16595416pzk.18 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:x-mailer; bh=vdfiw/Ax/yx4w/WgogrzndTQNRGd51yBSAocOM3/M7Q=; b=BypqWuHXh1h0QFbIha0Sg+JGv117Pm3xI+scp1sTEg1SBc8Ul26Z0oQpxqxdn22DPe lNiFZdI6xrS+2mJU69Hm/qgS0aHIm4pRPn4zOV6IfZECqlrXPJV0v6O2nNz8mVqsCJ+N Kp9MUDl0O4fmRS6u2IYZj/tDxckkiNCI/3bbg= Received: by 10.142.155.15 with SMTP id c15mr1959944wfe.397.1314548562687; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ivoire.paulbeard.org (c-76-121-105-198.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [76.121.105.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s1sm4040579wfh.8.2011.08.28.09.22.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) From: Paul Beard In-Reply-To: <4E5A4AEF.7050104@cyberleo.net> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:22:38 -0700 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6A3818F5-BF6D-4FEA-9B07-44E9C0F72438@gmail.com> References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> <4E5A4AEF.7050104@cyberleo.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Subject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:22:43 -0000 On Aug 28, 2011, at 7:04 AM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > It is especially useful when you cannot ping, as it can tell you if = the > packets are even arriving. The "no route to host" result makes me think the packets aren't going = far ;-) The new device and the wired interface are at adjacent numeric = addresses and all the devices here are in the same subnet behind the = WRT54G and that is behind the cable co's black box.=20 I think I may be more confused now than when I started.=20 One thing that has seemed opaque to me is that both ath0 and wlan0 = display when I run ifconfig and look very similar: makes me think they = might be stepping on each other. Or it's just one more thing I don't = understand :-(=20 ath0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu = 2290 ether 00:0d:88:93:21:3a media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g = status: running wlan0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu = 1500 ether 00:0d:88:93:21:3a inet 192.168.0.26 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet6 fe80::20d:88ff:fe93:213a%wlan0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8=20 nd6 options=3D3 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g = status: running ssid lower channel 8 (2447 MHz 11g) bssid 00:0d:88:93:21:3a regdomain FCC indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpower 27 scanvalid 60 protmode CTS wme burst dtimperiod 1 -dfs I know (or think I do) that ath0 is the real interface and wlan0 is a = virtualized or cloned or something handle to it. But the similarities = (both are running, both show the same info for media) trouble me. The = only thing that makes me think I'm doing anything here is that wlan0 is = actually assigned to channel 8.=20 I can sort of see that getting it working as a client would be = instructive and I think I did that some time ago (perhaps in 7.x) but = since you reuse almost nothing but the hardware, I don't see a lot of = value in that, other than verifying that the hardware works and that you = can follow the instructions. The latter can be a challenge, I'll admit.=20= So to recap: the idea of this was to provide a redundant spare for the = WRT54G, behind a cable modem, in a private network, with the only = security being at the AP =95 No ipfw or any of that, as it wouldn't be visible on the = public internet. =95 I'll add WPA/2 once it works (that seems trivial, as I have = been able to authenticate to the AP even though it didn't pass any = packets beyond that).=20 =95 It would deal with static addresses (I could add dhcp later, = once this was working, as phones and other devices are more easily dealt = with that way). So it looks like a bridge, if it joins an Ethernet = network and an 802.11-based one. Curiously, none of the instructions I = have seen mention bridging, even though the explicitly connect Ethernet = and wireless. And all the HOWTOs look simple, the work of a few minutes = of copy and paste.=20 I think I may just shelve this and if needed, turn up my Time Capsule's = wireless capability (if it would play nicely and extend the WRT54G, I'd = be using it now). And APs that support open source firmware are not that = hard to find, though Tomato doesn't support as many as the *-wrt = variants.=20 *grumble* -- Paul Beard Are you trying to win an argument or solve a problem?=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 16:57:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E92106566C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107548FC19 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:57:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.145] (helo=smtp14.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qxifh-00018Q-KU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:57:21 +0200 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp14.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qxifg-0004Du-Tu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:57:20 +0200 Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 380E3D; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:58:39 +0200 Message-ID: <4E5A7373.4030805@nagual.nl> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:57:23 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E5A36DB.7090200@nagual.nl> <4E5A503D.7050303@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E5A503D.7050303@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Qxifg-0004Du-Tu X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.977, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D 0.67, KHOP_DYNAMIC 0.73, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: dick@nagual.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: portmaster -a -B -d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:57:23 -0000 Op 28-8-2011 16:27, Matthew Seaman schreef: > Ideally ports committers should bump the > eaccelerator PORTREVISION to make ports management tools do that > automatically, but if not, you're going to have to remember to do it by > hand. Thank you for your explanation. I enjoyed reading it and learned a lot from it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 17:05:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B53106566B for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jomainbe@ono.com) Received: from resmaa13.ono.com (smtp13.ono.com [62.42.230.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A05B8FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.170.1.10] (84.124.141.157) by resmaa13.ono.com (8.5.113) (authenticated as jomainbe) id 4D6348DC024FF470 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:53:28 +0200 Message-ID: <4E5A727C.5070705@ono.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:53:16 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Manuel_Iniesta_Bernal?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:55:08 +0000 Cc: Subject: Support for AR8151 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:05:13 -0000 Hi! I've installed Freenas 8 in my computer, but Atheros AR8151 is not supported. Perhaps in the future? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 17:21:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA771065674 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jomainbe@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1FE8FC12 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh15 with SMTP id 15so4347830wyh.13 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 10:21:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z7K1wzgVDdSzna65vklw+l8gNY9p0BDZuGhMQcunkaQ=; b=VuctfWa4UVnwiI9n/A08sLFQrn6wJKsl0eMH98FqG84O34fM5nRJRkvj1U3jphNNgm aziqNYigB2iUTVL4KSvoZ5Vp9tn4irDNrJmFC+jOWMmmk2uqIoaR4PoE8AY4xO2G+n+2 Lw6Fc4ZNRvmCV4/+G4K/YBwlJD/NHHhEBbE08= Received: by 10.227.58.130 with SMTP id g2mr2957014wbh.44.1314550563294; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [193.170.1.10] (84.124.141.157.dyn.user.ono.com [84.124.141.157]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 11sm3020241wbw.60.2011.08.28.09.56.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E5A7314.2030007@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:55:48 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Manuel_Iniesta_Bernal?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:55:21 +0000 Cc: Subject: Atheros AR8151 support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:21:07 -0000 Hi! I've installed Freenas 8 in my computer, but Atheros AR8151 is not supported. Perhaps in the future? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 19:11:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4521065670 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@is-bored.de) Received: from mail.is-bored.de (daniel.mafia-server.net [178.63.144.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D33F8FC16 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.83.150.52] (port=53101 helo=localhost) by mail.is-bored.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qxk7g-0005l5-Tp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:30:21 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:28:50 +0200 From: Daniel Henschel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110828182850.GA7880@liz.hsl.local> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E5A727C.5070705@ono.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E5A727C.5070705@ono.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: Support for AR8151 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:11:33 -0000 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 06:53:16PM +0200, Jos=E9 Manuel Iniesta Bernal wrot= e: > Hi! >=20 > I've installed Freenas 8 in my computer, but Atheros AR8151 is not > supported. Perhaps in the future? >=20 > Thanks! ALC(4) states that it is included in 8.2-RELEASE. In 8.1-RELEASE it's not included. Please ask at FreeNAS if they intend to update or include it. - Daniel --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOWojiAAoJEABN5MGv/WCZqJAP/jY2AtKszoRuML/xJ7ye06yc vc/RTSsjmnjlECo/UhPEtewrzMCr6hRn+YAFU21bM3uhg4vu828ZqMMlYu2u7K8s q41XiFfdVbk2fsoHDjPV+gczKeDiMVLwPT+Du7J2jwCixj7M5A460mbBTkJLIQLI vl1phXMJA519ZnHnUbjjWlFmGGyKGUkTlFxGVDyi3/v7sh6i2zVAHviehPNbjaA5 sQVDMQKYD9XqXMzccRVm0kVP6P6c1IZH7f9bfBAlLgh7WbbsQt6l+71ao4bW5s/8 WZE7vyDrSLE4iysRsKWLPP8E1ptVInMSHT8AhoGLKyn9Qz+Li6eEQgtZRwnAZ5EQ VjWMl9GQjwgoX5CUZlLCKpsvkAXnoZmYG7GFrC2uYRgvZ458RAbzmT6Psz+LvnlN TIWL1xYSdcX1YRXnxrkIqA135Uzjf4LiLUlyUG5EP5crEVfPFIQpBNwEaNBGx4on W6cQpSABXW5hIKerEfso8LHtFmUe8YxLhV6OPCHuJ3Kx53tZUuvjudFX7Dien7Ez Yyu4E70zwHp7bOkiQuIF4k+/189AJa41GSsbusPa16z0qM4sYu64gD8WZMzvR3iI dl/fImasyN+ETdEfZUo6nTo8cFbuRmFiFk7qPYWYWt+osRXtSuNu8RwwoYNF6z9e hx5n62S+PERjbKyp+cjt =5Iwf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 20:05:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578B8106566C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF7B8FC19 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so16981509pzk.18 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:05:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=4GBMfkIrrodgi35TpS9ksZFCr5c0AOEMlunWgd7TuBU=; b=oNpX25NW5WzINLnbugPPshaP4QVqycmCWpRFe9GHpD0YAXRoA3hmV5Jp3Hm0Z2b814 R5WtJsDu39NDeZmKnW2dZWfreqDSEu3hlvnUK4ro3QWavQzlK3rP/N46sKznQo8GN5ZP Bnf/lunoUqYWx+hgw2kY4v/hbFN/WoalSGvJ0= Received: by 10.142.163.5 with SMTP id l5mr2074734wfe.279.1314561905642; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ivoire.paulbeard.org (c-76-121-105-198.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [76.121.105.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e8sm14733430pbc.8.2011.08.28.13.05.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) From: Paul Beard In-Reply-To: <1314560326.55735.YahooMailNeo@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:05:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> <4E5A4AEF.7050104@cyberleo.net> <6A3818F5-BF6D-4FEA-9B07-44E9C0F72438@gmail.com> <1314560326.55735.YahooMailNeo@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Bill Tillman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Closed [was Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:05:06 -0000 On Aug 28, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Bill Tillman wrote: > I did this to have the experience with it and to have a backup to my = Netgear wireless router. The trouble was the Netgear wireless AP device = works so well and is plenty fast, unlike what I was getting with my = FreeBSD server. The Netgear device has been working 24/7 for almost 2 = years now so I just gave up on the FreeBSD option. I think you sold me on the futility of this exercise. My Linksys has = been in service longer than that, 5 years at least.=20 Maybe one of the micro-flavors of FreeBSD or NetBSD might be better = suited to this, on a low-powered disused hardware platform. It doesn't = seem reliable enough to spend any more time on. If I could make it work, = I could like to compare what it took to the various approaches I have = read (including in the Handbook which is usually very dependable: I used = it earlier today to refresh my memory on adding a swapfile).=20 I'm calling it closed for now. Better use of my time to just find a = backup AP.=20 -- Paul Beard Are you trying to win an argument or solve a problem?=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 20:32:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B02106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7B438FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5047 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 2011 20:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy8.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2011 20:32:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=uLldOVKAuWGh0gPxWSUjdNJ1uBgNk215dXtlpO+j5zs=; b=fEQiSGc64DOXbYTagEy+Y2NoHJJ3Xj4lyD3S1uRLZByyalBoTYFJ69ZoG4emEU88lokIjMsYjAuHJyQvRJ0Qygz7CQmqE53KjpFB4KEhbvMQqCvKYxPMhDbpIcJUluHx; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Qxm2K-00012t-Fe for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:32:57 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:14:35 -0600 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:14:35 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110828201435.GA61305@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <16851_1313817220_4E4F4284_16851_6517_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521886E@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110825043208.fe201707.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110828050926.4e7d0389.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110828032152.GA57683@guilt.hydra> <20110828040427.GA2017@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110828151034.GA60519@guilt.hydra> <1EC4CC3CE4D19CBFF1622D33@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1EC4CC3CE4D19CBFF1622D33@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:32:59 -0000 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:21:06PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote: >=20 > What do you mean? All you need is some random link to a random survey UR= L.=20 > The fact that the survey doesn't mention anything about the product in=20 > question, the type of issue addressed, what type of response he was given= ,=20 > or anything else actually pertaining to his situation is totally=20 > irrelevant. As is the fact that the survey won't be read by anyone. ;) 1. It would need to be prefaced by another bloviating line of corporate doublespeak. 2. Have you heard the phrase "the straw that broke the camel's back"? Your assessment of the nature of the survey itself is pretty accurate, though. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5aoasACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVv3gCgtue8lT9TA6ouwijnczNSENvw rmkAoLUP89XL6q+/XGpw+tSj/iumLseJ =nnYA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 21:37:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0411065678 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:37:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spencer.s.thompson@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642E88FC19 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe4 with SMTP id 4so5065252fxe.13 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:37:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=R39pRnZoQRjtFe0n1jherd2BIXHw0zhhnIXxV+l7Vo0=; b=dnFcFB3NWeJ9/PKF0InRjRVFKYsJ7pw5Jxq+/y17MbWHrltcjaP5niiY0FOks5szVU 9iIyOBOnqzfXvftl5pExHiz0MmSx0gbFc+jgykVqu1CAVn4mjTgMXhpUAM+Unq0SQXBk gGwypB8754ySZsj4xdWKXaDCcfWDA4ganffLo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.39.193 with SMTP id h1mr430843fae.135.1314565770361; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.22.6 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:09:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: Spencer Thompson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:37:58 -0000 Dear FreeBSD.org, I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the best package to get? Will it work perfectly? I want a package with the manual, man-pages and how to use FreeBSD perfectly in books. What does Free in FreeBSD mean? Does it mean Free as in Free of charge? Or is there an alternate meaning? I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. Is this the one? Why is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? I don't want something stupid. I don't want to read the man-pages on the internet. Or the manual on the internet. Nor download anything. I don't like that. Does it come with all the applications I need for business and marketing? That's all I need. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 21:45:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2D0106566C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:45:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20908FC12 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so2867022ewy.13 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:45:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Kk6MjZ1bvpXRyzLYhxFOJqqa5hpfzu37WJk9G7mEBT8=; b=KwUpWYnQQjqJATAh3yYA215VTfCE4m0zIvv0wLJ7jtzYeIhNfEYDn/BhNz8jHb0gAh L5bouhdV78t9UvlCDlRp63yUNfDpQzoU98Wa3GzGuOnHrQ9an5gljVD16+eBSARja9PK VRkYXC86i/FdpMVUbYdOPzVGtMO/5HNuMeK8o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.3.153 with SMTP id 25mr1188742eeh.187.1314567951457; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.28.193 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:45:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:45:51 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: Spencer Thompson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:45:53 -0000 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Spencer Thompson < spencer.s.thompson@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear FreeBSD.org, > > I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the > best package to get? Will it work perfectly? I want a package with the > manual, man-pages and how to use FreeBSD perfectly in books. > Download the 8.2-RELEASE dvd > > What does Free in FreeBSD mean? Does it mean Free as in Free of charge? > Or > is there an alternate meaning? > It means many things including free of charge... it also means the freedom to modify, etc. > > I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. Is this the one? Why > is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? I don't want something > stupid. > What OS is best for a particular person depends on the applications you need to run > Does it come with all the applications I need for business and marketing? > That's all I need. > What specific applications do you have in mind? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 22:17:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97719106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 22:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532588FC1F for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 22:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7SMHKGS038803; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:17:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p7SMHKjD038800; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:17:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:17:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Paul Beard In-Reply-To: <6A3818F5-BF6D-4FEA-9B07-44E9C0F72438@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> <4E5A4AEF.7050104@cyberleo.net> <6A3818F5-BF6D-4FEA-9B07-44E9C0F72438@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:17:20 -0600 (MDT) Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 22:17:21 -0000 On Sun, 28 Aug 2011, Paul Beard wrote: > One thing that has seemed opaque to me is that both ath0 and wlan0 > display when I run ifconfig and look very similar: makes me think they > might be stepping on each other. Or it's just one more thing I don't > understand :-( In 8.x, a virtual wlan0 device is created to speak to the actual device, ath0 in this case. It's normal. See wlan(4) and http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 23:26:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1B2106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5A78FC1A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so17310089pzk.18 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:26:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=edu0aYvu46R749V/uOSq2HxdYYcWSE+UAx6c9oXZRm0=; b=SgDK01Xj3uoKkkCwTpvDRDRqkQ2+ozZsxyGzxd72M7zdcYVB6fYqBDFOEbGidOb2Qs AIn4c/c+W4/r0SSZdpNFMcW154J2Oj6zAcYCH3XuhrcO7iTle41+iyxRGNlG4+u62dLM QoSiEpV8FdzsaPG3hml4GUOaROMZlhj6p8xCM= Received: by 10.142.232.15 with SMTP id e15mr138704wfh.74.1314573996957; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ivoire.paulbeard.org (c-76-121-105-198.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [76.121.105.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x6sm15562372pba.5.2011.08.28.16.26.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:26:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Beard Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:26:33 -0700 In-Reply-To: Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> <4E5A4AEF.7050104@cyberleo.net> <6A3818F5-BF6D-4FEA-9B07-44E9C0F72438@gmail.com> Message-Id: <877ECE65-355E-4D06-BEB0-088DC56C84A1@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:26:38 -0000 On Aug 28, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Warren Block wrote: > In 8.x, a virtual wlan0 device is created to speak to the actual = device, ath0 in this case. It's normal. =20 Maybe I'm just confused by normality. I guess what would help in the = Handbook, if nowhere else, is the *full* output of ifconfig(8) for = purposes of comparison and elucidation. I see it called with just one = interface but unless you're on the console, it's likely you're adding = the wlan interface to an existing wired interface. And at the risk of = stating the obvious, there has to be a wired interface for it to = actually work as an access point, no?=20 -- Paul Beard Are you trying to win an argument or solve a problem?=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 19:38:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BB31065675 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm27-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm27-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4ED4B8FC22 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.52.192] by nm27.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 2011 19:38:47 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.147] by tm5.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 2011 19:38:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 2011 19:38:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 704204.14825.bm@omp1030.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 69462 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Aug 2011 19:38:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1314560327; bh=PWp8wjjX+sI7C5jJ/11keLwdo6pIQbayKTtsCIfTzXw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SZTXodyVAisEGBEJn2iBwU6OdiY7puBRCNI1SSnMlYtvthRHOJ15sGMGLjRSb6ikNXveTK95PLAnoNH6gY4mJH0HV3NceSQ3Jn3NHc+EWf74BYn4O4X8H+oGdsNmxLd3lcBmc4Uy2t0xgkpaRxyk5fPiUZKk9EvEsfVDWWsiePw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HJdge68GFO4dI8UdzeU9ecOMobMLBxKsQAbnn8pu8Tyk41p979NMo9Yr1kzekhJZBjkqIMGyiA+yk3vegLNJM/TxRqT2Ud//pA3YD/9yoZHuU+32GyUlYnaUT/VjTeBNI5LxJ9jyJgfDPzcHPf0gZxun27lAdHiIPMeyl11/3qw=; X-YMail-OSG: rPPormYVM1mzhj18xAOLS_a6ctjYw5FWpTpyTQPtWcW1dd_ SwfhLkYNKLfeEQrd5wD2BaPiLVrdVws_0im4ySRICtu2IFe3fHTm9MSPUJ2O dDZ2xppWFpDevkgVSZsEbCT3C.g5R3x2z6Ak_mJvUUIjiZhJPcsK1Zc08hec .b86VFd2HB.rgh9ArjqQ4RAwPcz7ylFInVbAQRwxnQEM4gqh2deflLffq08y RCgY3JbmYFWmTBaLvPlPiOaG3BXU0qLU6IQ587Z0Y5HKyZJK.OO4KqSYioGO 3b9cWgKlPb0V0PCnQMvyIdpXW1bFynMuyjvxxDlwtzdQ.nNbRxS5uXE4R0_o jjJSuhWSTz_M70LkRbUKAfYkh24fWhrOqdf3jjiuh4pr5Ghf20XA0k11QEiW uigDkzC2v0rlEagz74KcCMHxLXDFRKbABIQ7cLyi0DOLOd.uKinWUcN8cdp3 gd9BXYbERp0ahQ55lMn9EzLYUpLVgMl62r8Y8.MmnFfOxjJ1x_mpJFb0L_IZ .gA-- Received: from [65.14.229.26] by web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:38:46 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.315625 References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> <4E5A4AEF.7050104@cyberleo.net> <6A3818F5-BF6D-4FEA-9B07-44E9C0F72438@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1314560326.55735.YahooMailNeo@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:38:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: Paul Beard In-Reply-To: <6A3818F5-BF6D-4FEA-9B07-44E9C0F72438@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 00:05:03 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bill Tillman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:38:48 -0000 =0A=0A=0AFrom: Paul Beard =0ATo: =0ACc: "freebsd-quest= ions@FreeBSD. ORG" =0ASent: Sunday, August 2= 8, 2011 12:22 PM=0ASubject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2=0A= =0A=0AOn Aug 28, 2011, at 7:04 AM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote:=0A=0A> It is esp= ecially useful when you cannot ping, as it can tell you if the=0A> packets = are even arriving.=0A=0AThe "no route to host" result makes me think the pa= ckets aren't going far ;-) The new device and the wired interface are at ad= jacent numeric addresses and all the devices here are in the same subnet be= hind the WRT54G and that is behind the cable co's black box. =0A=0AI think = I may be more confused now than when I started. =0A=0AOne thing that has se= emed opaque to me is that both ath0 and wlan0 display when I run ifconfig a= nd look very similar: makes me think they might be stepping on each other. = Or it's just one more thing I don't understand :-( =0A=0Aath0: flags=3D8843= metric 0 mtu 2290=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 ether 00:0d:88:93:21:3a=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 media: IEEE 802.11 Wire= less Ethernet autoselect mode 11g =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 status: run= ning=0A=0Awlan0: flags=3D8843 metri= c 0 mtu 1500=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ether 00:0d:88:93:21:3a=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 inet 192.168.0.26 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255=0A=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 inet6 fe80::20d:88ff:fe93:213a%wlan0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8 = =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 nd6 options=3D3=0A=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g = =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 status: running=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ssid lower chann= el 8 (2447 MHz 11g) bssid 00:0d:88:93:21:3a=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 regdomain = FCC indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpower 27=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 sc= anvalid 60 protmode CTS wme burst dtimperiod 1 -dfs=0A=0AI know (or think I= do) that ath0 is the real interface and wlan0 is a virtualized or cloned o= r something handle to it. But the similarities (both are running, both show= the same info for media) trouble me. The only thing that makes me think I'= m doing anything here is that wlan0 is actually assigned to channel 8. =0A= =0AI can sort of see that getting it working as a client would be instructi= ve and I think I did that some time ago (perhaps in 7.x) but since you reus= e almost nothing but the hardware, I don't see a lot of value in that, othe= r than verifying that the hardware works and that you can follow the instru= ctions. The latter can be a challenge, I'll admit. =0A=0ASo to recap: the i= dea of this was to provide a redundant spare for the WRT54G, behind a cable= modem, in a private network, with the only security being at the AP=0A=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 No ipfw or any of that, as it wouldn't be visible= on the public internet.=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 I'll add WPA/2 once= it works (that seems trivial, as I have been able to authenticate to the A= P even though it didn't pass any packets beyond that). =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 =E2=80=A2 It would deal with static addresses (I could add dhcp later, = once this was working, as phones and other devices are more easily dealt wi= th that way). So it looks like a bridge, if it joins an Ethernet network an= d an 802.11-based one. Curiously, none of the instructions I have seen ment= ion bridging, even though the explicitly connect Ethernet and wireless. And= all the HOWTOs look simple, the work of a few minutes of copy and paste. = =0A=0AI think I may just shelve this and if needed, turn up my Time Capsule= 's wireless capability (if it would play nicely and extend the WRT54G, I'd = be using it now). And APs that support open source firmware are not that ha= rd to find, though Tomato doesn't support as many as the *-wrt variants. = =0A=0A*grumble*=0A=0A=0A--=0APaul Beard=0A=0AAre you trying to win an argum= ent or solve a problem? =0A=0A_____________________________________________= __=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/= mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "free= bsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0AIt's been about 18 months= since I went through this exercise with FreeBSD but I found it to be not w= orth the effort. I spent several hours getting all the configs right and th= e docs were as usual out of date but I eventually got it going. The trouble= was it was sporadic at best. Sometimes the laptop clients made the connect= ion and other times they didn't. And when they did the speed of the wireles= s connection was so slow, it just wasn't worth my time.=0A=0AI did this to = have the experience with it and to have a backup to my Netgear wireless rou= ter. The trouble was the Netgear wireless AP device works so well and is pl= enty fast, unlike what I was getting with my FreeBSD server. The Netgear de= vice has been working 24/7 for almost 2 years now so I just gave up on the= =C2=A0 FreeBSD option. I would like to think that things are better now, I = just haven't had the time to take another whack at it.=0A=0AGood luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 00:28:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB5A106566B for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 00:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5741F8FC12 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 00:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7T0S0lS039277; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:28:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p7T0S0wT039274; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:28:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:28:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Paul Beard In-Reply-To: <877ECE65-355E-4D06-BEB0-088DC56C84A1@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> <4E5A4AEF.7050104@cyberleo.net> <6A3818F5-BF6D-4FEA-9B07-44E9C0F72438@gmail.com> <877ECE65-355E-4D06-BEB0-088DC56C84A1@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:28:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 00:28:01 -0000 On Sun, 28 Aug 2011, Paul Beard wrote: > > On Aug 28, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Warren Block wrote: > >> In 8.x, a virtual wlan0 device is created to speak to the actual device, ath0 in this case. It's normal. > > > Maybe I'm just confused by normality. I guess what would help in the > Handbook, if nowhere else, is the *full* output of ifconfig(8) for > purposes of comparison and elucidation. I see it called with just one > interface but unless you're on the console, it's likely you're adding > the wlan interface to an existing wired interface. And at the risk of > stating the obvious, there has to be a wired interface for it to > actually work as an access point, no? I can only speculate why that's not shown, and I'd guess it's feared that it would further confuse the reader. IMO, the wireless section is already so stuffed full of detail that it obscures the basics. In fairness, it's a complicated topic. But I'd much rather see a simple setup for the 80% use case followed by another section with all the grimy details that most people won't need. That's why I did this: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/wireless.html I haven't really had the hardware (PCI to mini-PCIe adapter, or PCI 802.11g card) to try a FreeBSD hostap. Now that I think about it, I guess it could be done on a notebook. I'll add that to my list of "things that I should do unless someone else does it first." Seeing what the pfsense.org guys do for AP setup might be helpful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 01:39:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A73106566B for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 01:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB89E8FC0C for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 01:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so17545219pzk.18 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:39:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=w6lw+wZ4JfuylBIdVRkrL8x3/FAu4/gTIE25YV66SfA=; b=gjfAovtbw9kd5DN8H1zyRo/7lTGAw2mLSIKBtLtDaZIoBz7nIPd+/B6tXf1QI52pRj PPgTU3ZKgBtQyf6ePJzyU6MSJStzYueVdTt1W6WOJWridk0PLHnlUx91gM9LLioHDf4L 1OxPgS+MZJdoD78Mu95pQplfNKqpZTeDh/Rt0= Received: by 10.142.174.3 with SMTP id w3mr2371602wfe.244.1314581985105; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ivoire.paulbeard.org (c-76-121-105-198.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [76.121.105.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s1sm4489577wfh.20.2011.08.28.18.39.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) From: Paul Beard In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:39:41 -0700 Message-Id: References: <51754C95-3688-4B33-BD98-7DED5F28DC0E@gmail.com> <4E59BA7F.305@cyberleo.net> <4E5A4AEF.7050104@cyberleo.net> <6A3818F5-BF6D-4FEA-9B07-44E9C0F72438@gmail.com> <877ECE65-355E-4D06-BEB0-088DC56C84A1@gmail.com> To: Warren Block X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 01:39:47 -0000 On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Warren Block wrote: > IMO, the wireless section is already so stuffed full of detail that it = obscures the basics. In fairness, it's a complicated topic. But I'd = much rather see a simple setup for the 80% use case followed by another = section with all the grimy details that most people won't need. That's = why I did this: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/wireless.html I'll read through that and see if it helps me at all.=20 I found this =97 "'Hidden' SSIDs are not really hidden. They make = network setup more difficult and provide no real security benefits." =97 = interesting. I assume you could figure them out from wardriving?=20 -- Paul Beard Are you trying to win an argument or solve a problem?=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 02:31:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83ECB106564A for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C668FC08 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p7T2X1Ho046001 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:33:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:33:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201108290233.p7T2X1Ho046001@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:31:42 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 28 20:41:41 2011 > From: Paul Beard > Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:39:41 -0700 > To: Warren Block > Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" > Subject: Re: wireless access point in FreeBSD 8.2p2 > > > I'll read through that and see if it helps me at all. > > I found this "'Hidden' SSIDs are not really hidden. They make network > setup more difficult and provide no real security benefits." > interesting. I assume you could figure them out from wardriving? Hidden SSIDs just mean that the access point doesn't broadcast/announce it. The client machine has to transmit it, so that _AN_ access point can tell whether or not the client is tryint to connect to _it_. With something that snoops _all_ the wireless traffic, all you have to do is wait for somebody, _anybody_, to connect to that access point, and bingo, you've got the SSID. 'Hiding' the ID does nothing to deter the "determined" attacker, but it is quite effective at stopping the 'casual' leech. It also means that boxes that 'automatically" connect to the strongest signal in range, when none of their 'favored' networks are in range -- such boxes wil _not_ attempt to a system that doesn't "publish" it's SSID. This can be beneficial. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 07:06:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EAC106564A for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442F48FC18 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-14-151.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.14.151]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43181E345; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:06:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p7T76o6Y001920; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:06:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:06:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Spencer Thompson Message-Id: <20110829090650.9c0a5fbb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:06:53 -0000 On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:09:30 -0700, Spencer Thompson wrote: > Dear FreeBSD.org, > > I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the > best package to get? I would suggest to get the most recent RELEASE version. Currently that's 8.2. Depending on the hardware you are using, use i386 (the 32 bit system) or AMD64 (the 64 bit system); note that you can run i386 on 64 bit hardware without problems in most cases (except you need a specific 64 bit functionality). > Will it work perfectly? This depends on the particular Thinkpad's hardware. See the list of supported devices. The FAQ's chapter "Hardware Compatibility" does have a good list: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/hardware.html Also see the current release's hardware notes: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.2R/hardware.html In case of questions, you may ask IBM for statements about their FreeBSD support. A basic statement from my personal experience: Whatever hardware is compatible to standards, it will work without any problems. > I want a package with the > manual, man-pages and how to use FreeBSD perfectly in books. Please see "Appendix A. Obtaining FreeBSD" in the FreeBSD Handbook for information how to get FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mirrors.html Also see: http://www.freebsd.org/where.html And of course: http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm I think you'll also get suggestions from this list about which books are recommended; "Absolute FreeBSD" is a book commonly mentioned: http://www.absolutefreebsd.com/ It can be ordered from No Starch Press. Also note that you can - if you _want_ to - turn your local manpages, the Handbook and FAQ into printable PS, which means you can selectively print the sections that you need. The tools to do this are provided by the system. > What does Free in FreeBSD mean? Does it mean Free as in Free of charge? Or > is there an alternate meaning? "Free" means two things here: FreeBSD is a _free_ operating system within the open source ecosystem; it's developed by the FreeBSD team. And you can obtain it for _free_, i. e. for no charge. http://www.freebsd.org/about.html Please see the web site as an excellent resource to answer most of your questions. The main page http://www.freebsd.org/ contains references to all relevant topics like online documentation, mailing list archives, wikis and related projects. > I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. Is this the one? This depends on what you intend your laptop to be used for. It therefore depends on the hardware you want to use, as well as on the software. > Why > is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? You actually _can_ pay for it, e. g. by ordering media and documentation from a vendor, or you can donate money to the project. The strength of the FreeBSD system is that even poor people can "afford" it as you don't need a pirated copy (which is illegal in most legislations) in order to use a professional, secure and versatile system. So if you want to pay in order to support FreeBSD, see http://www.freebsd.org/donations/ for where to direct donations at. You can see that this is another meaning of "free" in FreeBSD: You are free to pay for it if you want to. > I don't want something > stupid. Be confident: You won't get. > I don't want to read the man-pages on the internet. Or the manual on the > internet. Nor download anything. I don't like that. Then FreeBSD is a good choice. All documentation is available locally (man pages, Handbook, FAQ and so on). You don't need a web browser or an Internet connection to access it. Most 3rd party software available for FreeBSD shares this approach and brings good documentation. > Does it come with all the applications I need for business and marketing? > That's all I need. No. The FreeBSD operating system brings an operating system, nothing more or less. You will have to install the programs you need because FreeBSD is a multifunctional OS, serving on workstations, servers, combined forms and even embedded systems. How _should_ it come with business applications in such a case? Furthermore, the term "business applications" is very wide. What _are_ business applications - in YOUR case? Because in _my_ case, business applications may likely be something quite different from yours, and from anyone else's. If you are interested in a FreeBSD system that comes with KDE and lots of average productivity applications preinstalled and preconfigured, check PC-BSD: http://www.pcbsd.org/ See if this fits your needs. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 07:16:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5504B106566B for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mihamina@rktmb.org) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091288FC12 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:16:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.137 Received: from mfilter8-d.gandi.net (mfilter8-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.137]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B11A80A6 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:15:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter8-d.gandi.net Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]) by mfilter8-d.gandi.net (mfilter8-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tsvPhViJBpY8 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:15:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 41.190.237.66 Received: from [192.168.0.111] (unknown [41.190.237.66]) (Authenticated sender: out@rktmb.org) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9A53DA80A8 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:15:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E5B3CA7.4080702@rktmb.org> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:15:51 +0300 From: Mihamina Rakotomandimby User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110801 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:16:09 -0000 On 08/29/2011 12:09 AM, Spencer Thompson wrote: > Dear FreeBSD.org, Hi, > I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the > best package to get? Will it work perfectly? "Working perfectly" depends on your usage. If some here tells you "yes" (or "no"), without asking for more _and_ precise details, you'll be right to have doubt. > I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. IMHO, You'd better look for the best OS for you _usage_. > Is this the one? Why > is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? I don't want something > stupid. Please, be serious :-). Wanting the best is very good, but if you dont share several element of your criteria, it wont be possible to help. > I don't want to read the man-pages on the internet. Or the manual on the > internet. Nor download anything. I don't like that. > > Does it come with all the applications I need for business and marketing? What's you business? What marketing tool do you need? Are you sure that is an OS level matter? Anyway, that guy feels strange & weird. -- RMA. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 11:34:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBCD106566C for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf1.socket.net (mf1g.socket.net [216.106.88.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BA28FC13 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [216.106.88.17]) by mf1.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1187440473; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:34:53 -0500 (CDT) To: mike@sentex.net From: jhall@socket.net X-Apparently-from: jhall@mail.socket.net X-Remote-Host: 174.34.27.163 User-Agent: Socket WebMail References: <20110823232242.B78A5106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <4E545899.6090800@sentex.net> <20110825155205.A0D131065670@hub.freebsd.org> <4E5696D0.3000205@sentex.net> <201108261742.p7QHgS2H095637@smtp1.sentex.ca> <4E57E2B1.9000508@sentex.net> <201108261840.p7QIebBP015777@smtp2.sentex.ca> <4E57EBED.7070900@sentex.net> <201108262052.p7QKqoTE002569@smtp2.sentex.ca> <4E5809A3.6020306@sentex.net> <201108262109.p7QL9dvU009914@smtp2.sentex.ca> <4E584A74.70608@sentex.net> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:34:53 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20110829113454.6FBCD106566C@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Racoon to Cisco ASA 5505 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jhall@socket.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:34:54 -0000 Thank you for all your help!! IT WORKS!!!!!!! One final question. If I want to clean up my racoon configuration file, instead of using sainfo anonymous can the following be used instead? sainfo address 10.129.0.0/16 any address 192.168.100.0/22 any Thank you again for all your help! Jay ---------------------------------------------------- >From : Mike Tancsa To : jhall@socket.net Subject : Re: Racoon to Cisco ASA 5505 Date : Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:37:56 -0400 > On 8/26/2011 5:09 PM, jhall@socket.net wrote: > >> Yes, post that to the list. > >> > > > > I am not sure if this is the entire configuration or not, but this is what > > they have posted. > > > > > > crypto ipsec security-association lifetime seconds 28800 > > crypto ipsec security-association lifetime kilobytes 4608000 > > > > crypto map rackmap 201 match address 201 > > crypto map rackmap 201 set peer Jefferson_City > > crypto map rackmap 201 set transform-set ESP-3DES-SHA > > crypto map rackmap interface outside > > > > crypto isakmp identity address > > crypto isakmp enable outside > > crypto isakmp policy 10 > > authentication pre-share > > encryption 3des > > hash sha > > group 2 > > lifetime 86400 > > > > access-list 201 line 1 extended permit ip 192.168.100.0 255.255.252.0 > > 10.129.10.0 255.255.255.0 > > access-list 201 line 2 extended permit ip 192.168.100.0 255.255.252.0 > > 10.129.20.0 255.255.255.0 > > access-list 201 line 3 extended permit ip 192.168.100.0 255.255.252.0 > > 10.129.30.0 255.255.255.0 > > access-list 201 line 4 extended permit ip 192.168.100.0 255.255.252.0 > > 10.129.50.0 255.255.255.0 > > access-list 201 line 5 extended permit ip 192.168.100.0 255.255.252.0 > > 10.129.60.0 255.255.255.0 > > access-list 201 line 6 extended permit ip 192.168.100.0 255.255.252.0 > > 10.129.70.0 255.255.255.0 > > access-list 201 line 7 extended permit ip 192.168.100.0 255.255.252.0 > > 10.129.80.0 255.255.255.0 > > > Get rid of the gif interface as its not needed and make sure you match their policy's. And of course 1.1.1.1 is your actual public IP. > > > setkey -F > setkey -FP > setkey -f /etc/ipsec.conf > > where ipsec.conf has the info below > > spdadd 10.129.10.0/24 192.168.100.0/22 any -P out ipsec esp/tunnel/1.1.1.1-184.106.120.244/unique; > spdadd 192.168.100.0/22 10.129.10.0/24 any -P in ipsec esp/tunnel/184.106.120.244-1.1.1.1/unique; > spdadd 10.129.20.0/24 192.168.100.0/22 any -P out ipsec esp/tunnel/1.1.1.1-184.106.120.244/unique; > spdadd 192.168.100.0/22 10.129.20.0/24 any -P in ipsec esp/tunnel/184.106.120.244-1.1.1.1/unique; > spdadd 10.129.30.0/24 192.168.100.0/22 any -P out ipsec esp/tunnel/1.1.1.1-184.106.120.244/unique; > spdadd 192.168.100.0/22 10.129.30.0/24 any -P in ipsec esp/tunnel/184.106.120.244-1.1.1.1/unique; > spdadd 10.129.40.0/24 192.168.100.0/22 any -P out ipsec esp/tunnel/1.1.1.1-184.106.120.244/unique; > spdadd 192.168.100.0/22 10.129.40.0/24 any -P in ipsec esp/tunnel/184.106.120.244-1.1.1.1/unique; > spdadd 10.129.50.0/24 192.168.100.0/22 any -P out ipsec esp/tunnel/1.1.1.1-184.106.120.244/unique; > spdadd 192.168.100.0/22 10.129.50.0/24 any -P in ipsec esp/tunnel/184.106.120.244-1.1.1.1/unique; > > > again, startup racoon with -d > start tcpdumping the outside interface with the flags -s0 -vvv host 184.106.120.244 > > From inside your network, > go to a machine that has an IP within the private range. e.g. 10.129.10.1 and ping the other side > > ping -S 10.129.10.1 192.160.100.1 > > ---Mike > > > > > -- > ------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 > Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net > Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 12:20:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDFD1065670 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nec556@retena.com) Received: from resmaa13.ono.com (smtp13.ono.com [62.42.230.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4FD8FC1A for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from GogPortatil.retena.com (188.76.1.12) by resmaa13.ono.com (8.5.113) (authenticated as nec556@retena.com) id 4D6348DC02527C2F; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:20:22 +0200 Message-ID: <4D6348DC02527C2F@> (added by postmaster@resmaa13.ono.com) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:20:24 +0200 To: Polytropon From: Eduardo Morras In-Reply-To: <20110828073051.1ec5b66a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110828073051.1ec5b66a.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 10.0.1392 [1520/3864] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:26:06 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: Identifying disk activity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:20:25 -0000 At 07:30 28/08/2011, Polytropon wrote: >Since I have installed my new system (FreeBSD/i386 8.2-STABLE), >I have found some kind of disk activity I've never had before >on my home system. As this PC is a very cheap product, it doesn't >have a HDD LED. Instead I have to listen to the disk. > >This is the strange sound: four groups of short "brrrrt" sounds >within a second, with a short pause between them. > > #####-----#####-----#####-----#####----- = 1 s > >This can be heared over several seconds, then silence. From >time to time, a "brrrt" sound appears for 3 seconds in one >long rush. Your disk is thinking or trying to do something. In morse code -- is 'm' so -- -- -- -- is mmmmmmm. When you hear the 'h' (four dots) or 'ph' (.--.----) it's finishing thinking. A typical sesion will be: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmhhh or mmmmmmmmppppphhhh. Similar sounds are made by lot of people in the bathroom while poping, you may want to investigate perhaps beastie is poping there. HTH Couldn't resist ;D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 12:28:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD9E106564A for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BC88FC0A for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7TCSf5g053325; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:28:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4E5B85ED.5040903@sentex.net> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:28:29 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jhall@socket.net References: <20110823232242.B78A5106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <4E545899.6090800@sentex.net> <20110825155205.A0D131065670@hub.freebsd.org> <4E5696D0.3000205@sentex.net> <201108261742.p7QHgS2H095637@smtp1.sentex.ca> <4E57E2B1.9000508@sentex.net> <201108261840.p7QIebBP015777@smtp2.sentex.ca> <4E57EBED.7070900@sentex.net> <201108262052.p7QKqoTE002569@smtp2.sentex.ca> <4E5809A3.6020306@sentex.net> <201108262109.p7QL9dvU009914@smtp2.sentex.ca> <4E584A74.70608@sentex.net> <201108291134.p7TBYr8V094692@smtp1.sentex.ca> In-Reply-To: <201108291134.p7TBYr8V094692@smtp1.sentex.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Racoon to Cisco ASA 5505 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:28:46 -0000 On 8/29/2011 7:34 AM, jhall@socket.net wrote: > Thank you for all your help!! IT WORKS!!!!!!! Great! > > One final question. If I want to clean up my racoon configuration file, > instead of using sainfo anonymous can the following be used instead? > > sainfo address 10.129.0.0/16 any address 192.168.100.0/22 any Not sure. You have the 10 networks as bunch of /24s. It might work. You would need to experiment. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 15:00:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35231065793 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509388FC1C for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p7TExDnd014878; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:59:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p7TExDkb014877; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:59:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:59:13 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Spencer Thompson Message-ID: <20110829145913.GC14297@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:00:43 -0000 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:09:30PM -0700, Spencer Thompson wrote: You have an interesting thing to start on and a worthwhile place to begin your exploration, but you will need to do some studying. It will be necessary to explore some things on the net. The Handbook is a good place to start. There are other things besides the Handbook that provide good information. Some are pointed to on the FreeBSD web page and some you can find with a little searching. You can also buy some good books on installing, configuring and using FreeBSD. If you are unwilling to to the preparation - studying, searching and downloading, you will probably not be successful. So, if your interest is real, start now to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. FreeBSD is a very good OS, even for a laptop. You might have to verify that drivers are available for the particular peripherals on the laptop you with to use. You can purchase a CD set or DVD from which to install the latest RELEASE of FreeBSD, but after installing, you will want to upgrade to the latest security update which will happen by download over the net. You will also want to install some ports. You will really want to install the latest of those as well and that will requite downloads over the net. The update and port install utilities all take care of these things for you. Read and follow the Handbook. Unless you choose not to, the OS man pages will be installed when you do the main installation. Then when you install a port, it will install the man page for that port. So, you can read man pages locally - offline if needed. Have fun. You may think it is too hard, but in just a few days of work and play, you will discover it is worth the effort. ////jerry > Dear FreeBSD.org, > > I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the > best package to get? Will it work perfectly? I want a package with the > manual, man-pages and how to use FreeBSD perfectly in books. > > What does Free in FreeBSD mean? Does it mean Free as in Free of charge? Or > is there an alternate meaning? > > I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. Is this the one? Why > is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? I don't want something > stupid. > > I don't want to read the man-pages on the internet. Or the manual on the > internet. Nor download anything. I don't like that. > > Does it come with all the applications I need for business and marketing? > That's all I need. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 16:24:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D28A1065674 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from osp@aloha.com) Received: from mail003.19.63.A.static.mtka.securence.com (mail003.19.63.A.static.mtka.securence.com [216.17.63.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528888FC15 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (atm-251-63.pixi.com [206.127.251.63]) by usi-mail08-mtka.usinternet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7692204AA for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:27:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Gary Dunn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201108242120.p7OLKgR1011852@usi-web13-mtka.usinternet.com> References: <201108242120.p7OLKgR1011852@usi-web13-mtka.usinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Organization: Open Slate Project Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:24:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1314624254.1663.2.camel@slate01> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Securence-ID: 1314635060633-013-00819596 X-Securence-Info: d4; 0orl0; 89otrp0; 0opp10; 3osrb7; 48ous157; 85oavs0; 0ovxr0; 11oclm101; 89ocom0; 100obsp0; 100ovrc0; 0ophc0; 11isd0; 30dds0; 72domsplt0; 25vac0; 48dogp0; 54med0; 86fsqd0; 75fsdd0; 19dod0; 0dds0; 1domsplt0; 2vac0; 99dogp1; 76med0; 97fsqd0; 3fsdd0; 25dod0; 82cld0; 18lrd0; 76dlv0; dmqq56; s355; t355 X-Securence-Latseq: <13-1314635061872> Subject: Re: portupgrade 2.4.9.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:24:23 -0000 On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 11:20 +0000, osp@aloha.com wrote: > I too am stuck in ruby-portupgrade swamp :-) > > After a fresh install of FreeBSD 8.2 I built potupgrade, then did a > portsnap and a portupgrade -a, in preparation to install Gnome2. When it > stopped I followed the instructions in UPDATING, but when I try to > upgrade portupgrade it fails because it cannot find the first server > listed and the only other one, ftp.freebsd.org, does not have pkgtools- > 2.4.9.3.tar.bz2. I verified by manual ftp connection. > > Do I just wait for ftp.freebsd.org to sync, or does someone need to do > something? > > Thanks for all that you do!! > For the record, this was fixed by Thursday, by Friday I had Gnome Power Tools and Gnome Office up and running. -- Gary Dunn, Honolulu Open Slate Project http://openslate.org http://www.facebook.com/garydunn808 http://e9erust.blogspot.com Twitter @garydunn808 Sent from Slate001 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 16:39:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7361065670 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from osp@aloha.com) Received: from mail003.19.63.A.static.mtka.securence.com (mail003.19.63.A.static.mtka.securence.com [216.17.63.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D874C8FC16 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (atm-251-63.pixi.com [206.127.251.63]) by usi-mail08-mtka.usinternet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006D32204AA for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:42:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Gary Dunn To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Organization: Open Slate Project Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:38:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1314625136.1663.14.camel@slate01> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Securence-ID: 1314635941824-020-00324399 X-Securence-Info: d5; 0orl0; 40otrp0; 56opp10; 8osrb3; 74ous134; 23oavs0; 2ovxr0; 108oclm100; 49ocom0; 43obsp0; 99ovrc0; 56ophc0; 56isd0; 100dds0; 36domsplt0; 60vac0; 40dogp0; 54med0; 97fsqd0; 22fsdd1; 26dod0; 0dds0; 99domsplt0; 99vac0; 100dogp0; 17med0; 16fsqd0; 36fsdd1; 63dod0; 44cld0; 27lrd0; 24dlv0; dmqq40; s421; t422 X-Securence-Latseq: <20-1314635943528> Subject: Tablet Digitizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:39:05 -0000 Does anyone have a passive tablet digitizer working? I would like use my Fujitsu T-1010 in tablet mode but have never been able to "find" the device. Apparently this laptop uses an internal USB digitizer. Any idea where to begin? Should X.org just find it automatically? Do I need to create a unique USB mouse driver and hook it into the kernel? It works, at least minimally, under Ubuntu, but I know even less about Linux than FreeBSD and was never able to track down how they did it. -- Gary Dunn, Honolulu Open Slate Project http://openslate.org http://www.facebook.com/openslate Twitter @openslateproj Sent from Slate001 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 17:04:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E0B1065678 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014588FC13 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7TH4fsm042963; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:04:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p7TH4fMN042960; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:04:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:04:41 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gary Dunn In-Reply-To: <1314625136.1663.14.camel@slate01> Message-ID: References: <1314625136.1663.14.camel@slate01> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:04:41 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Tablet Digitizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:04:44 -0000 On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Gary Dunn wrote: > Does anyone have a passive tablet digitizer working? I would like use my > Fujitsu T-1010 in tablet mode but have never been able to "find" the > device. Apparently this laptop uses an internal USB digitizer. > > Any idea where to begin? Should X.org just find it automatically? Do I > need to create a unique USB mouse driver and hook it into the kernel? > > It works, at least minimally, under Ubuntu, but I know even less about > Linux than FreeBSD and was never able to track down how they did it. Check the xorg log on Linux to see what driver is being used for the digitizer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 17:24:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C661065674 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADE68FC08 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18734 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:24:12 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201108291724.LAA18734@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:24:08 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Turn off hyperthreading on dual core Atom? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:24:15 -0000 I'm building a few systems using dual core Atom processors, and have noted that when the system boots up it says it has four CPUs: 2 actual cores and 2 virtual ones. But performance is a bit unsteady, and I'm wondering if it's going to be better to turn hyperthreading off. With hyperthreading, the FreeBSD scheduler simply acts as if there are 4 CPUs. Each "CPU" gets clock interrupts (which add overhead), and the scheduler is naive about the fact that two of the "CPUs" are not separate chips and could be held up if its mate has a heavy load. I do not know if the supposed higher utilization of the resources on each chip (including executing one thread while the CPU waits for data for another) is worth it. What has your experience been? --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 17:27:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC47106566C for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mwi1.coffeenet.org (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5748FC14 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:27:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=T2BSknlJMvIcmVwpjFaqq+sOLzSsMXXMAYLsKRl86Aw=; b=fK24odq17HqPUv6NjFBONNBkf8pYo+jgbxiHvac3sMck8DM61xA3jhrNMr6cpFYQldejKLYEK5wIJ5ZGfJQgHpteVTSVswyEpOa6XeaPnXENwxtKK52q4BxitYOBRD+S; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by mwi1.coffeenet.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Qy5g8-000Dc8-Iz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:31:21 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.3) with esmtpsa id 1314639074-1948-1947/4/4; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:31:14 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201108291724.LAA18734@lariat.net> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:27:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <201108291724.LAA18734@lariat.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.0 Subject: Re: Turn off hyperthreading on dual core Atom? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:27:41 -0000 On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:24:08 -0500, Brett Glass wrote: > With hyperthreading, the FreeBSD scheduler simply acts as if there are 4 > CPUs. Each "CPU" gets clock interrupts (which add overhead), and the > scheduler is naive about the fact that two of the "CPUs" are not > separate chips and could be held up if its mate has a heavy load. I do > not know if the supposed higher utilization of the resources on each > chip (including executing one thread while the CPU waits for data for > another) is worth it. What has your experience been? In my experience hyperthreading is useful in very few environments. I personally disabled it on my Atom machine which acts as a NAS among other things. I have noticed an improvement in performance and also in responsiveness. YMMV, etc etc etc :-) Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 17:40:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F1D106564A for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from caffer@cs.ucc.ie) Received: from mail4.ucc.ie (mail4.ucc.ie [143.239.1.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CEA8FC1F for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from csmail.ucc.ie (csmail.ucc.ie [143.239.211.231]) by mail4.ucc.ie (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7TH7lvP029517 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:07:52 +0100 Received: by csmail.ucc.ie (Postfix, from userid 4060) id 4E0945C002; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:07:47 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:07:47 +0100 From: Neil Cafferkey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110829170747.GA16645@csmail.ucc.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-MD-NoSA: yes X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 143.239.1.34 Subject: Unbootable memory stick snapshot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:40:21 -0000 Hi, I can't boot the FreeBSD-9.0-CURRENT-201107-ia64-memstick.img snapshot. >From a hexdump, it doesn't appear to have a boot block. Regards, Neil From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 18:03:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07BD1065674 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnmtw@bredband.net) Received: from smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (smtprelay-h22.telenor.se [195.54.99.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBE38FC0C for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6F5E9F7B for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:47:04 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.227.132.203] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq89AA7QW05V44TLPGdsb2JhbABCp28LAQEBATcygUABAQEBAwEBATUWCBgKARALDhMWDwkDAgECARUBBQQIChQGCAUBAQQBAQEBGQSHUwK5U4ZMBJEOkxc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,297,1312149600"; d="scan'208";a="214285659" Received: from c-0987e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO lazlar.kicks-ass.net) ([85.227.132.203]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 29 Aug 2011 19:46:54 +0200 Message-ID: <4E5BD08C.8020205@bredband.net> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:46:52 +0200 From: Rolf G Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110729 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Cafferkey References: <20110829170747.GA16645@csmail.ucc.ie> In-Reply-To: <20110829170747.GA16645@csmail.ucc.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:10:21 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unbootable memory stick snapshot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:03:53 -0000 2011-08-29 19:07, Neil Cafferkey skrev: > Hi, > > I can't boot the FreeBSD-9.0-CURRENT-201107-ia64-memstick.img snapshot. >> From a hexdump, it doesn't appear to have a boot block. > > Regards, > Neil > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ia64 is for Itanium, if it's an x86_64 you have, you need amd64, even if it's an Intel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 18:57:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB741065670 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.e.friedrich@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D038FC16 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so6260463vws.13 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:57:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zRkXyQZRzmBBqS7Km+kG1SM/yFVDEwtBYfS3D1x3jwY=; b=Fpymjdl58MLuisgHq3m+2EpUKlQDKU8ocC5z/WMZt3UoHpw+qaElkV8aYaTeI4HqND WYPjpvqZ+QhmgFS2u6SPK/Qbi/zsqrdkLDpO7p130M4JvmeZztDi+wNv2KqEOrEyp85Q 87MgerWQRCoTMEEpKI/O0pvCl8oqiF1YUOfkw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.188.193 with SMTP id gc1mr449971vdc.209.1314642899536; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.157.100 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:34:59 -0400 Message-ID: From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: build issue with gtk20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:57:50 -0000 I am trying to upgrade gtk20 per instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING, the new version won't build. Here's the tail end of the log: /usr/include/machine/endian.h:107: syntax error, unexpected '{' in ' return (__extension__ ({ register __uint32_t __X = (_x); __asm ("bswap %0" : "+r" (__X)); __X; }));' at '{' /usr/include/machine/endian.h:107: syntax error, unexpected ';' in ' return (__extension__ ({ register __uint32_t __X = (_x); __asm ("bswap %0" : "+r" (__X)); __X; }));' at ';' g-ir-scanner: compile: cc -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=pentium4 -Wall -I.. -I../gtk -I.. -I../gdk -I../gdk -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -c -o /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5/gtk/tmp-introspectCCtzqi/Gtk-2.0.o /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5/gtk/tmp-introspectCCtzqi/Gtk-2.0.c g-ir-scanner: link: /bin/sh /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gnome-libtool --mode=link --tag=CC --silent cc -o /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5/gtk/tmp-introspectCCtzqi/Gtk-2.0 -export-dynamic -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=pentium4 -Wall -L. -L/usr/local/lib libgtk-x11-2.0.la -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -lgio-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0 /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5/gtk/tmp-introspectCCtzqi/Gtk-2.0.o gtkscalebutton.c:544: Warning: Gtk: invalid annotation option: int gtkwidget.c:6462: Warning: Gtk: gtk_widget_style_attach: unknown parameter 'widget' in documentation comment, should be 'style' gtkpaned.c:2236: Warning: Gtk: gtk_paned_get_handle_window: unknown parameter 'panede' in documentation comment, should be 'paned' gtkruler.c:306: Warning: Gtk: gtk_ruler_get_metric: unknown parameter 'Deprecated' in documentation comment, should be 'ruler' gtkruler.c:336: Warning: Gtk: gtk_ruler_set_range: unknown parameter 'Deprecated' in documentation comment, should be one of 'ruler', 'lower', 'upper', 'position', 'max_size' gtkruler.c:387: Warning: Gtk: gtk_ruler_get_range: unknown parameter 'Deprecated' in documentation comment, should be one of 'ruler', 'lower', 'upper', 'position', 'max_size' gtknotebook.c:7820: Warning: Gtk: gtk_notebook_set_group_name: unknown parameter 'name' in documentation comment, should be one of 'notebook', 'group_name' gtkvruler.c:76: Warning: Gtk: gtk_vruler_new: unknown parameter 'Deprecated' in documentation comment gtktextlayout.c:1002: Warning: Gtk: gtk_text_layout_validate_yrange: unknown parameter 'anchor' in documentation comment, should be one of 'layout', 'anchor_line', 'y0_', 'y1_' gtktextlayout.c:1123: Warning: Gtk: gtk_text_layout_validate: unknown parameter 'tree' in documentation comment, should be one of 'layout', 'max_pixels' Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/g-ir-scanner", line 45, in sys.exit(scanner_main(sys.argv)) File "/usr/local/lib/gobject-introspection/giscanner/scannermain.py", line 411, in scanner_main main.transform() File "/usr/local/lib/gobject-introspection/giscanner/maintransformer.py", line 100, in transform self._pair_function(node) File "/usr/local/lib/gobject-introspection/giscanner/maintransformer.py", line 891, in _pair_function elif self._pair_method(func, subsymbol): File "/usr/local/lib/gobject-introspection/giscanner/maintransformer.py", line 915, in _pair_method if first.type.ctype.count('*') != 1: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'count' gmake[4]: *** [Gtk-2.0.gir] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5/gtk' gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5/gtk' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5/gtk' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.5' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 19:55:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1705106564A for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D058FC14 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28079E6BFD; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:55:10 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=KwhPXnSxNz05 R+5M/lk7Bjj3GOA=; b=SIRl4p0FUqrmRjRSTPjj9NXR2aAlwU9XXRiPpnCknqPG fV2C/ZhzlfBO1n1IwGcjCVsIIC4WNegCVGwyTNpw1ZS/wGEqZQta06ZarhxNn6Fn rS2iQ4jhler5EKVd+ov5jyDCZf1P+Gcgh9Xd543f+dLu/pOHfE9bsUWZTKzF0dU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=ZkXx9m kkZ53fuzNhyVg19soA2ZwhvHsdaFptoGvcGLYy6oCvKP4BsAvkuJCvDutUinvlj7 BF1L+iPTryG/O4+qnbY6fvh+xrnYrX+PuNvPJT7Ny4U98cTHiV6ke0VfoouldkR5 hxotSkYUovYpWp6xFN3Ypf4NOT1Xh9C7DOfc8= Received: from [192.168.1.104] (188-222-18-231.zone13.bethere.co.uk [188.222.18.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07DD2E6B28; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:55:09 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4E5BEE9C.7080706@cran.org.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:55:08 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Glass References: <201108291724.LAA18734@lariat.net> In-Reply-To: <201108291724.LAA18734@lariat.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Turn off hyperthreading on dual core Atom? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:55:12 -0000 On 29/08/2011 18:24, Brett Glass wrote: > With hyperthreading, the FreeBSD scheduler simply acts as if there are > 4 CPUs. Each "CPU" gets clock interrupts (which add overhead), and the > scheduler is naive about the fact that two of the "CPUs" are not > separate chips and could be held up if its mate has a heavy load. I do > not know if the supposed higher utilization of the resources on each > chip (including executing one thread while the CPU waits for data for > another) is worth it. What has your experience been? Actually, the ULE scheduler does know about HyperThreading and the topology of such CPUs. I don't know what it does with the information, but it probably works to optimize cache usage etc. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 21:15:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225C8106566B for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C9C8FC12 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21491; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:15:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201108292115.PAA21491@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:15:02 -0600 To: Bruce Cran From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <4E5BEE9C.7080706@cran.org.uk> References: <201108291724.LAA18734@lariat.net> <4E5BEE9C.7080706@cran.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Turn off hyperthreading on dual core Atom? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:15:13 -0000 At 01:55 PM 8/29/2011, Bruce Cran wrote: >Actually, the ULE scheduler does know about HyperThreading and the >topology of such CPUs. I don't know what it does with the >information, but it probably works to optimize cache usage etc. Alas, during a recent kernel build, I used the -j2 command line option in "make" and watched as the scheduler repeatedly assigned two instances of cc (the most CPU-intensive program) to the same core. During that process, I also watched CPU utilization in top(1). The peak was 46% idle, which means that HTT appeared to be making at most a 4% difference. (If the peak were 50% idle, HTT would be doing nothing at all, because top(1) can't tell that there aren't really 4 CPUs.) --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 21:20:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EAC106564A for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165D88FC13 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe4 with SMTP id 4so6261047fxe.13 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:20:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=EJEqqowYPNliaS4z0wZfSRViwjmlfEy6AUK7YoIdaNM=; b=SKRZ3eMLTKrZ9aQIGqf6lc/P0WdvfvERIVNaSjzss4Y4bRCzw3Zn7KOXtaT+VTHwVE lvvBapp0uLgWegDLPUu6BoelRObpOia5l67fAPagkbX1QzGayHI3JetupZHOvDDYwKzO Kw5AERbFMeQuSZjtqfQ2IEznSczo+rXRAWsYM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.26.20 with SMTP id b20mr7103902fac.50.1314652846630; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.120.72 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:20:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201108292115.PAA21491@lariat.net> References: <201108291724.LAA18734@lariat.net> <4E5BEE9C.7080706@cran.org.uk> <201108292115.PAA21491@lariat.net> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:20:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Brett Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Turn off hyperthreading on dual core Atom? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:20:48 -0000 On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Brett Glass wrote > Alas, during a recent kernel build, I used the -j2 command line option in > "make" and watched as the scheduler repeatedly assigned two instances of cc > (the most CPU-intensive program) to the same core. > > During that process, I also watched CPU utilization in top(1). The peak was > 46% idle, which means that HTT appeared to be making at most a 4% > difference. (If the peak were 50% idle, HTT would be doing nothing at all, > because top(1) can't tell that there aren't really 4 CPUs.) > You can achieve definitive answers by timing several build runs of each setting and using ministat. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 21:36:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE863106564A for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jherman@dichotomia.fr) Received: from mail.dichotomia.fr (hydrogen.dichotomia.net [91.121.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10808FC14 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.18] (134-164-33-178.dsl.ovh.net [178.33.164.134]) (Authenticated sender: kha@dichotomia.fr) by sslmail.dichotomia.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0382B3DD070 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 23:33:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E5C0654.8080902@dichotomia.fr> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 23:36:20 +0200 From: Jerome Herman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201108291724.LAA18734@lariat.net> <4E5BEE9C.7080706@cran.org.uk> <201108292115.PAA21491@lariat.net> In-Reply-To: <201108292115.PAA21491@lariat.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (sslmail.dichotomia.fr); Mon, 29 Aug 2011 23:33:23 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Turn off hyperthreading on dual core Atom? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:36:57 -0000 On 29/08/2011 23:15, Brett Glass wrote: > At 01:55 PM 8/29/2011, Bruce Cran wrote: > >> Actually, the ULE scheduler does know about HyperThreading and the >> topology of such CPUs. I don't know what it does with the >> information, but it probably works to optimize cache usage etc. > > Alas, during a recent kernel build, I used the -j2 command line option > in "make" and watched as the scheduler repeatedly assigned two > instances of cc (the most CPU-intensive program) to the same core. I might be wrong, but that would be the result I expect if I were to pass -j2 to a dual core CPU. If I wanted the the compilation to run on both core I would use -j3. The good old "number of cores+1". I think the last compilation "slot" is used to prepare the next compile/do trivial compile, so that the cores dedicated to compile can switch from one task to the next faster. The interesting test to do would be if you do -j3 would ULE assign the second compile to HT or to second core. > > During that process, I also watched CPU utilization in top(1). The > peak was 46% idle, which means that HTT appeared to be making at most > a 4% difference. (If the peak were 50% idle, HTT would be doing > nothing at all, because top(1) can't tell that there aren't really 4 > CPUs.) H.T varies greatly from one processor to the next, on the Pentium 4 1st gen it is a sad joke, on the Atom it is a small help for easy tasks, on i7 it is almost as good as a real core (Translation : if you use only the HT of a core you will get roughly the same perfs as if you use only the direct core) None the less H.T is just another entry point on the same core, so if HT is not used at all you will have 100% CPU power on direct, if direct is not used at all you will have 30%-95% cpu power on HT (depending on the processor). If both are used at he same time you will get between 45%+20% (P4 1st gen) to 50%+45% (i7 last gen). But since raw CPU power is not the only thing that matters in real world you can get up to +25% perfs on a I7 with HT enabled. > > --Brett Glass > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 22:06:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40667106566B for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170F58FC20 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB4824B; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:06:43 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: Spencer Thompson , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:06:45 -0000 --As of August 28, 2011 2:09:30 PM -0700, Spencer Thompson is alleged to have said: > Dear FreeBSD.org, > > I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the > best package to get? Will it work perfectly? I want a package with the > manual, man-pages and how to use FreeBSD perfectly in books. First off: Is this a new machine, or an older one? IBM hasn't made Thinkpads in at least five years: They sold the business to Lenovo. (Who has kept up the quality and design.) If it's a new machine, which machine is it? Most of the current-generation Thinkpads use the integrated Sandy Bridge graphics. This is supported in -CURRENT, but not in 8.2. There is also a keyboard interaction at boot under 8.2, that has been fixed. > What does Free in FreeBSD mean? Does it mean Free as in Free of charge? > Or is there an alternate meaning? Free of charge, free to use, free to read the source, free to modify, free to redistribute. Most definitions of free are covered. ;) > I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. Is this the one? > Why is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? I don't want > something stupid. As others have said 'best' is an opinion, and dependent on which use you are putting the laptop to. It is a very good one, for many uses. However, given that you sound like a newcomer to the UNIX/OSS software world, and that *currently* your likely hardware (if you are buying a new Thinkpad) isn't fully supported by the standard distribution, FreeBSD may not be for you at this time. If you are in that case, you'll find yourself working with untested and non-finalized software. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 29 22:56:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E971065673 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:56:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EB98FC0C for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh15 with SMTP id 15so5460035wyh.13 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:56:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YBhuXhsSoIi9x3zlZplvK2UX59aHhUL/VJL8XgCco7k=; b=ViBEuJcvi/k8C2E3A5y1835+F1pDPRHSx0asvIJ96+LZtrsgFutQKu7VPLMH2R/WBw relMowqBdEAKv7+qBPzzZk5qWIR7x9U0vmj3avPgEILROJQWjWbAnMLAYZ1exFt01MOW cQxheaPULs9DVUCrZI9UUSPR43MkfWi5R3IcU= Received: by 10.216.230.212 with SMTP id j62mr68584weq.56.1314658613896; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fh17sm4122936wbb.37.2011.08.29.15.56.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 23:56:48 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110829235648.74676b61@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <201108292115.PAA21491@lariat.net> References: <201108291724.LAA18734@lariat.net> <4E5BEE9C.7080706@cran.org.uk> <201108292115.PAA21491@lariat.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Turn off hyperthreading on dual core Atom? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:56:55 -0000 On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:15:02 -0600 Brett Glass wrote: > At 01:55 PM 8/29/2011, Bruce Cran wrote: > > >Actually, the ULE scheduler does know about HyperThreading and the > >topology of such CPUs. I don't know what it does with the > >information, but it probably works to optimize cache usage etc. > > Alas, during a recent kernel build, I used the -j2 command line > option in "make" and watched as the scheduler repeatedly assigned > two instances of cc (the most CPU-intensive program) to the same core. Doesn't that make sense. If the scheduler can't put two threads from the same process on a core, it puts two processes running in the same binary. BTW I thought hyperthreading was off by default on security grounds. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 00:10:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E966106566B for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfunk6@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepi201.cox.net (eastrmfepi201.cox.net [68.230.241.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEB98FC08 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110830000021.QJKK32702.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:00:21 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([72.192.114.65]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id SQ0M1h0021QjWw802Q0Mbt; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:00:21 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020B.4E5C2815.0044,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5AHg1zS6fKBk64vkGL/stHpTKznySuNzRq0QOAs0BF0= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=nTSl362JsOMP97HOnYaBAg==:17 a=RZsFLSThUBtOxRxMFRoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=nTSl362JsOMP97HOnYaBAg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: Derek Funk To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:00:20 -0500 Message-ID: <1314662420.1588.5.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: wlan setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:10:51 -0000 I followed the handbook and searched online but yet still unable to get a wireless connection to an access point. I have in my rc.conf file: wlans_ath0="wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" and in the wpa_supplicant.conf: network={ ssid="myssid" psk="mypassword" } It associates but does not get an ip. I works fine with Windows or with Ubuntu. Any help is appreciated. Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 01:35:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773CB106566B for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:35:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368808FC13 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7U1ZVvY044484; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:35:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p7U1ZV9s044481; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:35:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:35:31 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Derek Funk In-Reply-To: <1314662420.1588.5.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> Message-ID: References: <1314662420.1588.5.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:35:31 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: wlan setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:35:36 -0000 On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Derek Funk wrote: > I followed the handbook and searched online but yet still unable to get > a wireless connection to an access point. > > I have in my rc.conf file: > wlans_ath0="wlan0" > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" > > and in the wpa_supplicant.conf: > network={ > ssid="myssid" > psk="mypassword" > } > > It associates but does not get an ip. Some cards take a long time to associate, and using synchronous DHCP helps. ifconfig_wlan0="WPA SYNCDHCP" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 02:47:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4718F106566B for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from akshay.sreeramoju@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8D18FC14 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe4 with SMTP id 4so6505896fxe.13 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:47:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gMHQItuM5ecBtYlEttP3sNfFGfQV4j3fCL10S5g0jx0=; b=QdojXnY3pE7yK0/1g+A4SdH62AxLs2M6EmUShZ0wucNMJjh4sOjM3aqh5XY+D038d1 nvbzduRe3QYgcxTqxroKy9xgB0+Qfos8UkhgpZUDJJeB7hoAlKUfiopQ6kNXNmz96/g6 1SZ0yhqz7M1NkRmDqU/98x27u7VidHyvynm1g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.63.139 with SMTP id b11mr3232985fai.111.1314672425564; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.101.208 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:47:05 -0700 Message-ID: From: akshay sreeramoju To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How is my vnc getting started at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:47:07 -0000 Hi! I am unable to figure how vncserver is being launched during "local package initialization" of my FreBSD 8.2 Release boot. Can anyone help or point me in right direction to figure where my vncserver is being launched from? I need to change my vnc root window size. Thanks, Akshay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 03:01:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7002B1065672 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A1A8FC14 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p7U31Psc072372; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:01:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4E5C5284.1070801@bananmonarki.se> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:01:24 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110821 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: akshay sreeramoju References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How is my vnc getting started at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:01:28 -0000 2011-08-30 04:47, akshay sreeramoju skrev: > Hi! > > I am unable to figure how vncserver is being launched during "local package > initialization" of my FreBSD 8.2 Release boot. > > Can anyone help or point me in right direction to figure where my vncserver > is being launched from? > > I need to change my vnc root window size. > > Thanks, > > Akshay Check /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* where 3:d party programs normally is started from. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 03:06:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A61F106564A for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from akshay.sreeramoju@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02EF8FC0A for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe4 with SMTP id 4so6519118fxe.13 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:06:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HCwIZFCnT1MRrKktBeKwdVj+3KaoIK3iIZCIm1pHrTs=; b=uEBggqOzouJhKGSUZnLH+GFz8NRHlNVM1K+7lTNlkHpeRinMHwbWwsRUOnsIh8bPla TFYaiQE3ytmUm4sFrzC6kZuOB5fuikY/gOAIhleSbQL39+/4j/axDI+ZwXibMUqG88cG Wsa39UJsp0mibDiz8d2ks74gGA6gtW9HjvLHU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.54.134 with SMTP id q6mr8207806fag.130.1314673573511; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.101.208 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:06:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E5C5284.1070801@bananmonarki.se> References: <4E5C5284.1070801@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:06:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: akshay sreeramoju To: Bernt Hansson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How is my vnc getting started at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:06:15 -0000 Thank you Bernt. You are right. I found vncserver.sh there. Regards, Akshay On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2011-08-30 04:47, akshay sreeramoju skrev: > > Hi! >> >> I am unable to figure how vncserver is being launched during "local >> package >> initialization" of my FreBSD 8.2 Release boot. >> >> Can anyone help or point me in right direction to figure where my >> vncserver >> is being launched from? >> >> I need to change my vnc root window size. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Akshay >> > > Check /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* where 3:d party programs normally is started > from. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 05:19:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988A3106564A for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558A68FC13 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so4606383qwc.13 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.50.199 with SMTP id a7mr6491288qcg.89.1314681552436; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (ool-43529a81.dyn.optonline.net [67.82.154.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm3919366qcy.11.2011.08.29.22.19.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E5C72BC.1050100@xaerolimit.net> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:18:52 -0400 From: Chris Brennan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=D5B20C0C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3CB02506967C7A1A5D5A8457" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: missing ORIGIN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:19:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3CB02506967C7A1A5D5A8457 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010405050700030402040004" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010405050700030402040004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just ran a 'portmaster -a' on my FreebSD-8.2/x86 box and portmaster decided to terminate itself, ten times. While that in of itself is kinda of, the stranger part is why the only two manually installed FreeBSD packages were from my HPT SATAII/RAID card... Every time I run portmaster, I get the following two items printed, repeatedly. pkg_info: package hptraidconf-3.5 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package hptsvr-3.13 has no origin recorded and it's rather annoying, I do need the utility installed to monitor the card as it's hosting two 750GB drives in a raid1 hardware array w/ ZFS ontop. [root@ziggy ~]# cat portmaster_out.log | grep origin | wc -l 264 [root@ziggy ~]# As you could imagine, it's pretty damned annoying, what can I do to make it go away (without uninstalling the HPT utilities?) --=20 > Chris Brennan > -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? > http://xkcd.com/84/ | http://xkcd.com/149/ | http://xkcd.com/549/ > GPG: D5B20C0C (6741 8EE4 6C7D 11FB 8DA8 9E4A EECD 9A84 D5B2 0C0C) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------010405050700030402040004-- --------------enig3CB02506967C7A1A5D5A8457 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOXHLCAAoJEO7NmoTVsgwMO/sIAKD7tSV5q4kmVyxaQbtblEsl gxdN974j0hCNBs4QoAPVM0iVeCB3sJZYhtqr0+UAn9S8cj9yI17vY72obZeEhwBe IClHu3pfBmMuSV+G8OHS/ILP4gverhiFRD7MuAKqq3JEajoRMO/U/nOQ5gr5O2S5 e1+RpISn7rPvpDX7gRxVxFXqX1lV6t74U2lar0/1Vq31JcrnUHX7SuSA7t7rSIFB Th5sDJpSdnq04f6Lw68dy+c8ZMP0GXDoZKw0xNiCxzECJhQsxf1Yjd9TX8rZjLww BzK7lzOsOoYxNvTp8o+IxPyiq05HJMINXZHKKInHlguLqIicYUyyNsGp4ZTIdWc= =0Wm2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3CB02506967C7A1A5D5A8457-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 05:24:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B83106564A for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30/08/2011 06:18, Chris Brennan wrote: > [root@ziggy ~]# cat portmaster_out.log | grep origin | wc -l > 264 > [root@ziggy ~]# >=20 > As you could imagine, it's pretty damned annoying, what can I do to mak= e > it go away (without uninstalling the HPT utilities?) touch +IGNOREME /var/db/pkg/hptraidconf-3.5 touch +IGNOREME /var/db/pkg/hptsvr-3.13 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig03E9F06D3D11B3D2F557D411 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5cdA8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzSKACfXAwAvI77c5AyqmcbEFkGxndP qSYAn3EWfu/vhTaCzoSQHiSxvOaEbEZF =ttQp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig03E9F06D3D11B3D2F557D411-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 05:26:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3A6106566B for ; 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z=Message-ID:=20<4E5C749B.6090401@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2030=20Aug=202011=2006:26:51=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0)=20Gecko/201 10812=20Thunderbird/6.0|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Chris=20Brennan= 20|CC:=20FreeBSD=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20missing=20ORIGIN|References:=2 0<4E5C72BC.1050100@xaerolimit.net>=20<4E5C7408.5070102@infracanino phile.co.uk>|In-Reply-To:=20<4E5C7408.5070102@infracaninophile.co. uk>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-T ype:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol =3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------ enig9932C3A4B6BDDEF0ABF7EBD6"; b=Ihpc/GzOeOAbG7u8uBmeNlqcehOJNTF2n2PHza5ptainZX2x3WB2fkLrRlRQbFU6E 2aV65kWz+sMtwCsclfhawVL3n/IvJckNxDQN0KnMcQ191wmPphdb/YVxSPVP0ZpqkX ANTV2rzIq5PVyG6TmYE9K7kBPa9MswVqL9EopEi8= Message-ID: <4E5C749B.6090401@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 06:26:51 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Brennan References: <4E5C72BC.1050100@xaerolimit.net> <4E5C7408.5070102@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E5C7408.5070102@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9932C3A4B6BDDEF0ABF7EBD6" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: missing ORIGIN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:26:56 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9932C3A4B6BDDEF0ABF7EBD6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30/08/2011 06:24, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 30/08/2011 06:18, Chris Brennan wrote: >> As you could imagine, it's pretty damned annoying, what can I do to ma= ke >> it go away (without uninstalling the HPT utilities?) > touch +IGNOREME /var/db/pkg/hptraidconf-3.5 > touch +IGNOREME /var/db/pkg/hptsvr-3.13 Dammit. Too early. Too little coffee touch /var/db/pkg/hptraidconf-3.5/+IGNOREME touch /var/db/pkg/hptsvr-3.13/+IGNOREME Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig9932C3A4B6BDDEF0ABF7EBD6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5cdJsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIymTwCcDXcwePsvIZun+ClbbYzCk2Il wHEAnR0Q0uc6ClSjbmhxhF1gK3LGDUqj =NR0o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9932C3A4B6BDDEF0ABF7EBD6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 07:44:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE49E106564A for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mihamina@rktmb.org) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FB88FC17 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:44:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.134 Received: from mfilter4-d.gandi.net (mfilter4-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.134]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2F71752DE for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:44:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter4-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter4-d.gandi.net (mfilter4-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9vdeHLiMHz12 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:44:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 41.190.237.66 Received: from [192.168.0.111] (unknown [41.190.237.66]) (Authenticated sender: out@rktmb.org) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6EA31175308 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:44:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E5C94DA.50206@rktmb.org> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:44:26 +0300 From: Mihamina Rakotomandimby User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110801 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:44:51 -0000 On 08/30/2011 01:06 AM, Daniel Staal wrote: > FreeBSD may not be for you at this time. I did not dare, but I agree with you for Spencer's case. -- RMA. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 07:49:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A0D106567A for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mihamina@rktmb.org) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BF88FC15 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:49:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.131 Received: from mfilter11-d.gandi.net (mfilter11-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.131]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B1FA94E5 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:49:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter11-d.gandi.net Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]) by mfilter11-d.gandi.net (mfilter11-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BSXyE0oX8SU6 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:49:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 41.190.237.66 Received: from [192.168.0.111] (unknown [41.190.237.66]) (Authenticated sender: out@rktmb.org) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A113A9611 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:49:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E5C95F2.4060205@rktmb.org> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:49:06 +0300 From: Mihamina Rakotomandimby User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110801 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E549B5D.4080807@rktmb.org> In-Reply-To: <4E549B5D.4080807@rktmb.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: to come from Linux to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:49:22 -0000 On 08/24/2011 09:34 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > I am from Linux (Debian & Ubuntu) and I will have to intensively use > FreeBSD on servers (DNS, Database, Routing...) > > I would like to install a FreeBSD on my laptop (Dell Inspiron, or some > Asus not defined yet) and then virtualize a lot (KVM seems OK) in order > to get used. From all the answers I got, the best solution for me is: - run Linux as host - virtualize FreeBSD as far as I intend to use it on Rack servers Installing it directly as host would drive me to overhead. Maybe after mastering "headless" administration I could try it on a laptop. Anyway, thank you all for your advices and see you if I get the job! :-) -- RMA. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 12:11:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABED1065672 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:11:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pstreem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6308FC1A for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yib19 with SMTP id 19so5141087yib.13 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:11:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=cC34rK5XE/DwiiCeJgUL2Dyo5xpCk7vvI0r+eOi52mY=; b=HmLkYFHMNPGbkryZpv73zZJsQ44h5upVOBQbLaUxIYUcXtpTdcWk8QP3QQqD14x0ly HE1KsASq5bnsZuqWufkc4f1TyYN33xxrosZquJjbI1ht3L0G2+nK0nQgkaESN0hRODna VOR98voCWM88xCqR9ntOYpf6z+o49B5ZU7qAA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.148.134 with SMTP id r6mr6190681icv.396.1314704905786; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 04:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.111.41 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 04:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.111.41 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 04:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:48:25 +0800 Message-ID: From: PstreeM China To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Derek Funk , FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: wlan setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:11:48 -0000 Did you load the drivers about wlancard? Make kernel yourself or edited /boot/loader.conf to load drivers. On Aug 30, 2011 9:36 AM, "Warren Block" wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Derek Funk wrote: > >> I followed the handbook and searched online but yet still unable to get >> a wireless connection to an access point. >> >> I have in my rc.conf file: >> wlans_ath0="wlan0" >> ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" >> >> and in the wpa_supplicant.conf: >> network={ >> ssid="myssid" >> psk="mypassword" >> } >> >> It associates but does not get an ip. > > > Some cards take a long time to associate, and using synchronous DHCP helps. > > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA SYNCDHCP" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 12:52:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBE2106566C for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from anakin.london.02.net (anakin.london.02.net [87.194.255.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEEB8FC21 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (93.97.24.219) by anakin.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4E1D60400140F550 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:52:12 +0000 Message-ID: <4E5CDCFC.9040508@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:52:12 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: editors/zim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:52:14 -0000 Hi, I have a problem with Zim which I wrote to the author about he replied and said; "I'm afraid version 0.29 is no longer supported. This was the last version in the Perl branch, since we moved to Python there have been already 10 more releases. So please try the latest version (0.52)." Are there any plans to bump it to Python and a recent release? I emailed the maintainer a while back but got no response. thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 13:05:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF411065675 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Received: from smtpauth03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73FCA8FC16 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:05:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14606 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2011 12:38:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (192.131.232.128) by smtpauth03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.183) with ESMTP; 30 Aug 2011 12:38:43 -0000 From: "George Vagner" To: References: <20110830120036.E0DB110657CF@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20110830120036.E0DB110657CF@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 08:38:41 -0400 Message-ID: <00cf01cc6711$c0b4c880$421e5980$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcxnDMKop353csX7TCy3QquLYSNSSQABGnvw Content-Language: en-us Subject: mini pci e wireless card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:05:23 -0000 I am wondering what mini pci express (little tiny card) is the best, highest power and best supported overall For hostap mode. I need to replace my rl3090 in my acer revo cause I don't see it as supported and its Not detected in my dmesg (8.2r) that I can see, I want to use it as an accesspoint/router. Thanks for all your help. George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 14:56:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CFB1065677 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05628FC1A for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so4916953qwc.13 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.17.145 with SMTP id s17mr2531487qaa.166.1314716165808; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (ool-43529a81.dyn.optonline.net. [67.82.154.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cf2sm9777571qab.1.2011.08.30.07.56.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E5CF9EF.2090802@xaerolimit.net> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:55:43 -0400 From: Chris Brennan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4E5C72BC.1050100@xaerolimit.net> <4E5C7408.5070102@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4E5C749B.6090401@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E5C749B.6090401@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=D5B20C0C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDB8169D519E61E48450EE67A" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: missing ORIGIN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:56:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDB8169D519E61E48450EE67A Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080709090506060907010101" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080709090506060907010101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8/30/2011 1:26 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 30/08/2011 06:24, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 30/08/2011 06:18, Chris Brennan wrote: >=20 >>> As you could imagine, it's pretty damned annoying, what can I do to m= ake >>> it go away (without uninstalling the HPT utilities?) >=20 >> touch +IGNOREME /var/db/pkg/hptraidconf-3.5 >> touch +IGNOREME /var/db/pkg/hptsvr-3.13 >=20 > Dammit. Too early. Too little coffee >=20 > touch /var/db/pkg/hptraidconf-3.5/+IGNOREME > touch /var/db/pkg/hptsvr-3.13/+IGNOREME >=20 > Matthew >=20 >=20 Thanks, that moved portmaster along. --=20 > Chris Brennan > -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? > http://xkcd.com/84/ | http://xkcd.com/149/ | http://xkcd.com/549/ > GPG: D5B20C0C (6741 8EE4 6C7D 11FB 8DA8 9E4A EECD 9A84 D5B2 0C0C) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------080709090506060907010101-- --------------enigDB8169D519E61E48450EE67A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOXPn3AAoJEO7NmoTVsgwMTV8H/jdgOdwr48W7kefhNdttl0iW 7CxxeVHQsPw9j/YCcztk9XzKU+5YwrIapGKP7THbBTPqqD8oLhI+2UNrjCtZwqJi Kgygifamjg+WRYh+OyFk1s06uHJFtr5/uQx4pMA5rbKb6rXlNNOObSIyM/IYeEMV vHMsf4XolCKrV6zOT+xScLMJc3Do+uASc4TMTqJ6fkZr2Sf8U3iv/Lt8eKv9KSQ1 KonRStx34DoiDlaAOVvnx/XalCRaFTKz+MkgqOQ4hAuZfjE5x4zIRQ2EvzqnUDgL Az0GzRDOPXP4UGyZaqkiyDTCMJq1QXMt9WVWOKbgRFMCwAD2G4kxxr9WcEpZmJ4= =I2AQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDB8169D519E61E48450EE67A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 15:32:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5841065680 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130F08FC08 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7UFWwQ6047238; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:32:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p7UFWvEP047235; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:32:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:32:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: George Vagner In-Reply-To: <00cf01cc6711$c0b4c880$421e5980$@com> Message-ID: References: <20110830120036.E0DB110657CF@hub.freebsd.org> <00cf01cc6711$c0b4c880$421e5980$@com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:32:58 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mini pci e wireless card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:32:59 -0000 On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, George Vagner wrote: > I am wondering what mini pci express (little tiny card) is the best, highest > power and best supported overall > For hostap mode. Atheros b/g only is probably the best supported. Recent post: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-August/232723.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 18:09:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD6F106564A for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:09:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfunk6@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCEE8FC0C for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110830180933.KVBT32466.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:09:33 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.20] ([72.192.114.65]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id Si9Y1h00a1QjWw802i9YYZ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:09:33 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020B.4E5D275D.0046,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ax4i8a8snyEA9uWfgWYmXW+3D+RWNhitQWxcW0Jxd9c= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=nTSl362JsOMP97HOnYaBAg==:17 a=MaGWP3jD2xXLQs0UQr4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=nTSl362JsOMP97HOnYaBAg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: Derek Funk To: FreeBSD-Questions In-Reply-To: <1314662420.1588.5.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> References: <1314662420.1588.5.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:09:32 -0500 Message-ID: <1314727772.1602.3.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: wlan setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:09:39 -0000 On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 19:00 -0500, Derek Funk wrote: > I followed the handbook and searched online but yet still unable to get > a wireless connection to an access point. > > I have in my rc.conf file: > wlans_ath0="wlan0" > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" > > and in the wpa_supplicant.conf: > network={ > ssid="myssid" > psk="mypassword" > } > > It associates but does not get an ip. > > I works fine with Windows or with Ubuntu. > > Any help is appreciated. > > Derek Drivers are loaded and I tried using SYNCDHCP instead of just DHCP in rc.conf. I even tried my own entry in devd.conf as shown in a google search. But still it links to the access point but does not get an IP. Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 18:16:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44171065672 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlmichael70@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C958FC0C for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi36 with SMTP id 36so7200664wwi.31 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:15:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y1BlDaQVhyK++k6FZORjQAQdF/Az4IBeIdySrCt1DJ4=; b=h3RbzqxxEAGret4uxdaAi1gxOulfGMcW/JT7kvPw/A/sbbiNBrdwYhn7LTUd/fccrP 7SwALFIRIOeM2AZtpC9kjUOkyJyfMLn8RROIE7UqFpWcTLr9ZYCUwsrLdQl0qwl/soGn Pa5mgfu776OPXNRAKT3k+Y2xmyN2W9E2QPDTU= Received: by 10.227.6.199 with SMTP id a7mr1558501wba.74.1314728159269; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prime.nonspace (92.40.253.220.threembb.co.uk [92.40.253.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fd4sm4828881wbb.64.2011.08.30.11.15.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:16:00 +0100 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110829 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: random generated password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:16:00 -0000 Hello, When adding a new user it is possible to assign a random generated password. But is it possible to assign a random password for already existing users? Preferably in a non-interactive and scriptable way. Is it possible with the base system tools? Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 18:30:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4839106566B for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:30:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A098FC0C for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7UIUeV4002233; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:30:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4E5D2C42.4020603@sentex.net> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:30:26 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael References: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: random generated password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:30:44 -0000 On 8/30/2011 2:16 PM, Michael wrote: > Hello, > > When adding a new user it is possible to assign a random generated > password. But is it possible to assign a random password for already > existing users? 0(ich10)# pw useradd testuser1 -w random Password for 'testuser1' is: oFPw9BPe 0(ich10)# > > Preferably in a non-interactive and scriptable way. Is it possible with > the base system tools? 0(ich10)# pw usermod testuser1 -w random Password for 'testuser1' is: km.y0LScI3p1 0(ich10)# pw usermod testuser1 -w random Password for 'testuser1' is: P5RrhmUl4Np2 0(ich10)# ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 18:32:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9DE1065675 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1B78FC18 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eye4 with SMTP id 4so4381554eye.31 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:32:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.6.70 with SMTP id 46mr2265867eem.9.1314729142874; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.97.77 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:32:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> References: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:32:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Michael Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: random generated password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:32:24 -0000 Presumably you're doing this to prevent direct login? chpass allows root to set the encrypted password directly chpass -p '$1$123456789$your-random-chars-here' On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Michael wrote: > Hello, > > When adding a new user it is possible to assign a random generated password. > But is it possible to assign a random password for already existing users? > > Preferably in a non-interactive and scriptable way. Is it possible with the > base system tools? > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 18:34:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058AC106566B for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9449C8FC18 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so3954447ewy.13 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.5.66 with SMTP id 42mr616780eek.137.1314729279536; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.97.77 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Michael Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: random generated password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:34:43 -0000 dd if=/dev/random count=1 | tr -c "[:alnum:]" '0-9A-Za-z0-9A-Za-z0-9A-Za-a-z0-9A-Za-z' will give you the right kind of characters to use, for example. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Michael Sierchio wrote: > Presumably you're doing this to prevent direct login? > > chpass allows root to set the encrypted password directly > > chpass -p '$1$123456789$your-random-chars-here' > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Michael wrote: >> Hello, >> >> When adding a new user it is possible to assign a random generated password. >> But is it possible to assign a random password for already existing users? >> >> Preferably in a non-interactive and scriptable way. Is it possible with the >> base system tools? >> >> Michael >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 18:39:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C02D1065672 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B918B8FC19 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eye4 with SMTP id 4so4385593eye.31 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:39:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.13.14 with SMTP id a14mr2226492eea.41.1314729573479; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.97.77 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:39:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:39:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Michael Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: random generated password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:39:35 -0000 Sorry, typo in cut-and-paste. # dd if=3D/dev/random count=3D1 | tr -c "[:alnum:]" '0-9A-Za-z0-9A-Za-z0-9A-Za-z' ; echo zNvPGEVzCZ0QQRMUjtzcJJXRlKNPfVFCTEol0pdPmGEyzFiEUx0PUjPYMdUUYklbKPICmhS9IJE= nxg4aaLVojizk6bjznuvzfLfAR4dfzX4nKfNqCAmVR13LZ08aUZzGyxW2jWNV9oBDBhcPQRmC2n= zoEtCIE2PQdS5V2FIixBKjrB05nDnwMAfjzpVKQ7ft4GUsXNyAve9OIl3PUUTecezldocgvWrSF= fbI8ztXw9zP2Ka9Gu39jFULWbLYwqNfzDMVOy76nPEWA9DfeT5yUrSO9fSyREAes7XxSbYvcyuz= ahBdqBaySc4EIgRQDBFqRxJ6hzbY7dg98HtcQzoWSrCgf2SA6VJwLivtld3eCddIz5HZIjcHUqI= SzFXMLnOPszV627zGhOm5Ei7diTQbf8GZQ3ZD8r7yY2ao9Mbm9w16nCt5issPD2toxoKSdqaNWY= HbTCqEhXineHmQPwX9z1qDFZkM7B20FecLS5ECKe8yH7iSlIiFDCbAbFNVJ1PP # I'll leave it to you to pick out 9 chars for the seed and 31 chars for the rest, as in $1$zNvPGEVzC$Z0QQRMUjtzcJJXRlKNPfVFCTEol0pdP On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Michael Sierchio wro= te: > dd if=3D/dev/random count=3D1 | tr -c "[:alnum:]" > '0-9A-Za-z0-9A-Za-z0-9A-Za-a-z0-9A-Za-z' > > will give you the right kind of characters to use, for example. > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Michael Sierchio w= rote: >> Presumably you're doing this to prevent direct login? >> >> chpass allows root to set the encrypted password directly >> >> chpass -p '$1$123456789$your-random-chars-here' >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Michael wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> When adding a new user it is possible to assign a random generated pass= word. >>> But is it possible to assign a random password for already existing use= rs? >>> >>> Preferably in a non-interactive and scriptable way. Is it possible with= the >>> base system tools? >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" >>> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 18:40:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4E81065676 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from mail.mroute.net (lax-gw12.mailroute.net [199.89.0.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23FE8FC15 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lax-gw12.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A803D32706BC; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:40:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by lax-gw12.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F11E32706A8; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3D4A72E8E; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:40:34 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Michael Sierchio References: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.18.12.1; tzolkin = 6 Imix; haab = 9 Mol Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:40:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Michael Sierchio's message of "Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:39 -0700") Message-ID: <86mxeqoi8t.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Michael , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: random generated password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:40:37 -0000 >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Sierchio writes: Michael> dd if=/dev/random count=1 | tr -c "[:alnum:]" Michael> '0-9A-Za-z0-9A-Za-z0-9A-Za-a-z0-9A-Za-z' Michael> will give you the right kind of characters to use, for example. I prefer "openssl rand -base64 6" to get an 8-char password from a fairly large set of sensible characters. Each multiple of 3 results in 4 characters in the output. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 18:42:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF44106564A for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12FD8FC15 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7UIfd71099812; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:41:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 26216BA95; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:41:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:41:39 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Michael Message-ID: <20110830184139.GA52397@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: random generated password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:42:11 -0000 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 07:16:00PM +0100, Michael wrote: > Hello, >=20 > When adding a new user it is possible to assign a random generated=20 > password. But is it possible to assign a random password for already=20 > existing users? >=20 > Preferably in a non-interactive and scriptable way. Is it possible with= =20 > the base system tools? Generating a random password can be done with the openssl in the base syste= m; openssl rand -base64 9 You'd want to pipe the output of this command through tee(1) and save it in= a file. Next you pipe it to a file discriptor leading to a 'pw usermod -h 0'. Something like this: openssl rand -base64 9 | tee -a newpasswords | pw usermod UID -h 0 where UID is the user-id or name of the user in question. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5dLuIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWoegCffcHKQEgzzTwIL3uFPAh5zDii wzAAn17rhvaWmO40TNJ9iQfKJ+wVK5W4 =N9ir -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 18:42:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BDF1065673 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094D48FC1B for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so3957974ewy.13 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:42:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.19.143 with SMTP id n15mr2189933een.201.1314729759986; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.97.77 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:42:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86mxeqoi8t.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> <86mxeqoi8t.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:42:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Michael , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: random generated password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:42:42 -0000 That occurred to me, but it's a smaller alphabet. Probably doesn't matter if the purpose is to make login unusable. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Michael" =3D=3D Michael Sierchio writes: > > Michael> dd if=3D/dev/random count=3D1 | tr -c "[:alnum:]" > Michael> '0-9A-Za-z0-9A-Za-z0-9A-Za-a-z0-9A-Za-z' > > Michael> will give you the right kind of characters to use, for example. > > I prefer "openssl rand -base64 6" to get an 8-char password from a > fairly large set of sensible characters. =A0Each multiple of 3 results in= 4 > characters in the output. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 00= 95 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 18:48:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9836F106578E for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7778FC0C for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so23094251pzk.18 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c7FMCaKeSw4Bzq7wSMLzuJ2hVEAhCumVA+qV2JiAsec=; b=eNMmUoJntiBREyinJjO55HZPHMl1OpidblztM7inyGipP9BDVfhYtvEL/BYVEDnE5k 5DZMEqTdBnLXcUOetyBcRkCnSpXMzDERtl5biLwYJKvQnP/Y62PijmLScRaroTwBggE4 bTRT2/i7hg945PRW6ZXciICN9UouElVaQeFyg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.58.6 with SMTP id l6mr1034627wfk.13.1314730137082; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: pldrouin@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.58.131 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:48:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> <86mxeqoi8t.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:48:57 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e7xmNnqVnVI0nFeRZhjoEysWm5Q Message-ID: From: Pierre-Luc Drouin To: Michael Sierchio , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: random generated password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:48:57 -0000 If the purpose is to make login unusable, starring the password is the only 100% safe way... On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Michael Sierchio wrot= e: > That occurred to me, but it's a smaller alphabet. =A0Probably doesn't > matter if the purpose is to make login unusable. > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Randal L. Schwartz > wrote: >>>>>>> "Michael" =3D=3D Michael Sierchio writes: >> >> Michael> dd if=3D/dev/random count=3D1 | tr -c "[:alnum:]" >> Michael> '0-9A-Za-z0-9A-Za-z0-9A-Za-a-z0-9A-Za-z' >> >> Michael> will give you the right kind of characters to use, for example. >> >> I prefer "openssl rand -base64 6" to get an 8-char password from a >> fairly large set of sensible characters. =A0Each multiple of 3 results i= n 4 >> characters in the output. >> >> -- >> Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0= 095 >> >> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. >> See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 18:55:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792C51065672 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333B88FC13 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7UItMxR047984; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:55:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p7UItMBX047981; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:55:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:55:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gary Dunn In-Reply-To: <1314690222088-015-00158650.osp.aloha.com@usi-mail08-mtka.usinternet.com> Message-ID: References: <1314625136.1663.14.camel@slate01> <1314690222088-015-00158650.osp.aloha.com@usi-mail08-mtka.usinternet.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:55:22 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Tablet Digitizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:55:25 -0000 On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Gary Dunn wrote: > I have studied that and the source to what seems to be a driver, > "fujitsu-usb-touchscreen." This may be what you already have: http://spareinfo.blogspot.com/2010/10/linux-on-fujitsu-u810-p1620-t1010.html Whether it's trustworthy, compiles on FreeBSD, or works with xorg 7.5, don't know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 19:06:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928FA106564A for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B4F8FC18 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p7UJ68gU048045; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:06:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p7UJ68h7048042; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:06:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:06:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Derek Funk In-Reply-To: <1314727772.1602.3.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> Message-ID: References: <1314662420.1588.5.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> <1314727772.1602.3.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:06:08 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: wlan setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:06:11 -0000 On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Derek Funk wrote: > Drivers are loaded and I tried using SYNCDHCP instead of just DHCP in > rc.conf. > I even tried my own entry in devd.conf as shown in a google search. > But still it links to the access point but does not get an IP. Check /var/log/messages for errors reported by wlan_supplicant. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 22:03:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79340106566B for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1C18FC1B for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (a80-101-78-208.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7ULpQ8a069155 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:51:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [IPv6:::1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7ULpPCl015626 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:51:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:51:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: vpn using pptpclient in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:03:32 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to set up a vpn connection to the university library by using pptpclient. In other OS's this takes around 10 seconds, but in FreeBSD this seems very difficult to do, and I've no idea why. It looks like there is a connection made, but after a minute or two it just disconnects and still unable to access the vpn. My ppp.conf is: EUR: set authname "xxxx@xxxx.xx" set authkey "xxxxxxx" set timeout 0 set ifaddr 0 0 add vpn-eur-pptp.eur.nl HISADDR disable ipv6cp The messages log says: Jun 2 22:12:16 yokozuna pptp[40950]: anon log[main:pptp.c:314]: The synchronous pptp option is NOT activated Jun 2 22:12:16 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 1 'Start-Control-Connection-Request' Jun 2 22:12:16 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:739]: Received Start Control Connection Reply Jun 2 22:12:16 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:773]: Client connection established. Jun 2 22:12:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 7 'Outgoing-Call-Request' Jun 2 22:12:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:858]: Received Outgoing Call Reply. Jun 2 22:12:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:897]: Outgoing call established (call ID 0, peer's call ID 58282). Jun 2 22:12:17 yokozuna kernel: tun0: link state changed to UP Jun 2 22:13:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:677]: Echo Request received. Jun 2 22:13:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 6 'Echo-Reply' Jun 2 22:15:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[pptp_handle_timer:pptp_ctrl.c:1050]: closing control connection due to missing echo reply Jun 2 22:15:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 12 'Call-Clear-Request' Jun 2 22:15:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[pptp_conn_close:pptp_ctrl.c:430]: Closing PPTP connection Jun 2 22:15:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 3 'Stop-Control-Connection-Request' Jun 2 22:15:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[call_callback:pptp_callmgr.c:79]: Closing connection (call state) Jun 2 22:15:47 yokozuna pptp[40956]: anon warn[decaps_hdlc:pptp_gre.c:204]: short read (0): No buffer space available Jun 2 22:15:47 yokozuna kernel: tun0: link state changed to DOWN After a lot of searching and googling I never found the answer. Has anyone here succeeded in setting up a working pptp vpn connection? Thanks in advance, Marco -- Kiss me twice. I'm schizophrenic. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 22:39:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF07106566B; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED268FC16; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p7UMdVcp013282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:39:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p7UMdVqS013281; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA21808; Tue, 30 Aug 11 15:29:07 PDT Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:29:03 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4e5dc69f.y98a8wi3n/UYU+Z/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:42:16 +0000 Cc: acm@freebsd.org, cwhiteh@onetel.com Subject: editors/zim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:39:34 -0000 Forwarding to ports@, which seems more likely to yield an answer to this particular inquiry than questions@ Please keep the OP, who is probably not subscribed to ports@, in the Cc: list. ==================================================================== Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:52:12 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse To: User Questions Subject: editors/zim Hi, I have a problem with Zim which I wrote to the author about he replied and said; "I'm afraid version 0.29 is no longer supported. This was the last version in the Perl branch, since we moved to Python there have been already 10 more releases. So please try the latest version (0.52)." Are there any plans to bump it to Python and a recent release? I emailed the maintainer a while back but got no response. thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 03:11:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2061106567C for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 03:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from basarevych@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52888FC17 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 03:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so202963qwc.13 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:11:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RN8FejtflXsl3p5a71bXDytIc8bvpp4baHE2QTuCqsI=; b=jKmRDn7BybUnZgfoXHafy/Xn0N9B7FLY+99i7hKvgNmH3X5ZP9hbYttiyUswh+0eCg H7jV2lNnW6XbuNugQLUohY8lMj+Bu0OdUTfUoe6Xowm/gmuogIBI4TTER9EQz+WFFw5y n4A6FZKY0CazKzBNiCNipuTufhcR3FmPSb9+w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.19.193 with SMTP id c1mr7533400qcb.118.1314760284926; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.233.144 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:11:24 +0300 Message-ID: From: Ross To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 03:11:26 -0000 Aug 31 05:13:24 da kernel: ad6: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=3D107491647 # dd if=3D/dev/ad6 of=3D/dev/null bs=3D1m seek=3D107491647 count=3D1 dd: /dev/null: Inappropriate ioctl for device Another question: why does it fail? # dd if=3D/dev/ad6 of=3D/var/tmp/xxxx bs=3D1m seek=3D107491647 count=3D1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 1048576 bytes transferred in 0.026658 secs (39334650 bytes/sec) So no errors. I looked at bsdlabel =E2=80=94 it's partition f, /home. But w= hat is the file name? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 03:20:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E25106566B for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 03:20:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7100F8FC19 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 03:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p7V3K0uJ074218; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:20:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:20:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Derek Funk In-Reply-To: <1314727772.1602.3.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> Message-ID: References: <1314662420.1588.5.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> <1314727772.1602.3.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: wlan setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 03:20:11 -0000 On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Derek Funk wrote: > On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 19:00 -0500, Derek Funk wrote: [ ... ] > Drivers are loaded and I tried using SYNCDHCP instead of just DHCP in > rc.conf. > I even tried my own entry in devd.conf as shown in a google search. But > still it links to the access point but does not get an IP. Not to belabor the obvious, but do you have a working DHCP server available to the WAP? -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 06:13:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A737106564A for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5298FC0A for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p7V6DEmi061331 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:13:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p7V6DE8w061330; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA22974; Tue, 30 Aug 11 23:11:16 PDT Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:11:12 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: basarevych@gmail.com Message-Id: <4e5e32f0.9who12387o0moTmx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:13:15 -0000 Ross wrote: > Aug 31 05:13:24 da kernel: ad6: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error > (retrying request) LBA=107491647 That message is reporting a problem in communication between the drive and the controller (or, perhaps, between the controller and main memory), not a problem reading the media, so the LBA is likely not all that useful (esp. since, if you got no other messages, the retry succeeded so no data was lost). What does egrep 'ad[0-9]|ata' /var/run/dmesg.boot report? > # dd if=/dev/ad6 of=/dev/null bs=1m seek=107491647 count=1 > dd: /dev/null: Inappropriate ioctl for device > > Another question: why does it fail? seek= applies to the output file, so it tried to do a seek on /dev/null :) You probably wanted skip= (or iseek=). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 08:20:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84EC1065670 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from basarevych@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718868FC22 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so778210qyk.13 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 01:20:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=upYfzEenXMfyTcXxj5ex5QshwGXEcpE30v3E8auSvm8=; b=cKYA2Ncywoy9lFCHREfrSOt15qf6f+IUs8H3CvzfNYAcJ0nc/N8StDfhRSdR6Ld5HF /0/wX0nD7StBDIvCn2ps7ohTFq6M4beFSJrPSIpUMV8eBSjib0+nTCHJAt3Z0XCuIVgi nfQ0OwHP7jS2wqqV7abmruyMn7TDBAUCCB1GQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.62.194 with SMTP id y2mr92472qch.4.1314778829410; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 01:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.233.144 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 01:20:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4e5e32f0.9who12387o0moTmx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4e5e32f0.9who12387o0moTmx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:20:29 +0300 Message-ID: From: Ross To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:20:30 -0000 On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:11 PM, wrote: > Ross wrote: > >> Aug 31 05:13:24 da kernel: ad6: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error >> (retrying request) LBA=3D107491647 > > That message is reporting a problem in communication between the > drive and the controller (or, perhaps, between the controller and > main memory), not a problem reading the media, so the LBA is likely > not all that useful (esp. since, if you got no other messages, the > retry succeeded so no data was lost). > > What does > > =C2=A0egrep 'ad[0-9]|ata' /var/run/dmesg.boot > > report? > atapci0: port 0x20b8-0x20bf,0x20cc-0x20cf,0x20b0-0x20b7,0x20c8-0x20cb,0x20a0-0x20af mem 0xe0284000-0xe02843ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci0: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] ad4: 238475MB at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA ad6: 476940MB at ata3-master UDMA100 SATA Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad6s1a >> # =C2=A0dd if=3D/dev/ad6 of=3D/dev/null bs=3D1m seek=3D107491647 count= =3D1 >> dd: /dev/null: Inappropriate ioctl for device >> >> Another question: why does it fail? > > seek=3D applies to the output file, so it tried to do a seek on > /dev/null :) =C2=A0You probably wanted skip=3D (or iseek=3D). > Thank you :) I have read the man page now. smartd also reports this: Aug 31 10:41:04 da smartd[886]: Device: /dev/ad6, Failed SMART usage Attribute: 184 End-to-End_Error. I found this explanation: http://kb.acronis.com/content/9119 So disk is dying? Or is it cable. I have no physical access to the server at the moment. But still, is there a way to get the filename for LBA? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 05:50:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDEB106566C for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 05:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@ovi.com) Received: from nm23-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 900E58FC1A for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 05:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2011 05:36:17 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.248] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2011 05:36:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2011 05:36:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 28849.45225.bm@omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 31969 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Aug 2011 05:36:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ovi.com; s=s1024; t=1314768976; bh=dNP4X/DlcmglRcyt8yFKTApiKTsUqI/DRAXfwsGUfrQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MvDaYb2VJWT+aC5egKE17PGFGdm/jec6XRjL39Pimcr3ZYmgG5tGiYAUDidPvShf3mSo8MVgz1E3cZcHL1lIDUYH9FoLKkgoY+66GI+jm2hQsPe1962XwLqWwg1e1nfQWvRaBitS7lFuSxv7c+8XvSlMes9Dn8tzlCOJ9UiGK9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ovi.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ab/pExQQVUTrAxVfIdEqKVy7UH8KtuxdD4PwJEsOapkcgPJDR1ndR2uxC6lFYjOnXNXNcMeWJd/q8Bhhd0ybxbecGCBEkDVxoALDsnRVZkWq2X9c4MfnrpNKQDb7OpEzwcVofYiEL6JRDDENPeN7LUZWjRQA8/ovrot9uQy+RXI=; X-YMail-OSG: TXlVo.cVM1kjimuvcTz2.EZlADY2vch6fmpihZH6unWa83. 4CGBjJEVgK_vUfu9gTXujOZ7j7W6AB8A7sN_E0stil4Q7QhH24gryJVgcTxA 7.CStwwplxxfMFXDnyBxmDhxXLgLz38.2HvlUQufB8JALJFnyZtOZqwrFjUc kd3mwJnto8qHYyIsxdUTvGBxFCtqTPeZi41h9S_ffTes.1FxvUM9cVxp.R6. u1x_WUl_xtJwWllpb5O0QCm8ZBryNtAD1CNzMdf1wl6pT6bOqFhXL6_P3bhZ CWKz_eEzYLKoyhM7aczuvlBEm_bnqZ6w9HvmgYkNvUmV0dxx8y0U_DHdNXqR NXGVX5yBcm7chYwTPCQuBwoXQvSqga.tFEVFi0cBLlnlfh1A7OkRxFnG5DDF 6qRvUCvTyFC_edCduL_qQx937Vq8HLKZYfB9z Received: from [81.190.18.30] by web121104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:36:16 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.315625 Message-ID: <1314768976.20964.YahooMailNeo@web121104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:36:16 -0700 (PDT) From: zszalbot@ovi.com To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:13:01 +0000 Subject: How to check current port options before updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zszalbot@ovi.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 05:50:16 -0000 Dear all,=0A=0AI have been wondering how I can check current options of a p= ort before I update it. The port in question (apache22) has a number of opt= ions and I would like to look at the current ones so that I do not install = options that I may not need. I'd appreciate if you can point me to a refere= nce or a command that does it. Will "make config" show it?=0A=0AMany thanks= !=0A=A0=0AZbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 11:19:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A989A1065674 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaspars@bankovskis.lv) Received: from mail.kei.lv (mail.kei.lv [85.31.99.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B08B8FC12 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from numeri.kei.local (lvfw.delfi.lv [62.85.29.84]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.kei.lv (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7VBIv3j063365 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:18:58 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kaspars@bankovskis.lv) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:18:57 +0300 From: Kaspars Bankovskis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110831111857.GB2579@numeri.kei.local> References: <1314768976.20964.YahooMailNeo@web121104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1314768976.20964.YahooMailNeo@web121104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=3.0 tests=SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.kei.lv Subject: Re: How to check current port options before updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:19:04 -0000 Yes, "make config" shows saved options. You can find them in the file /var/db/ports/portname/options as well. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:36:16PM -0700, zszalbot@ovi.com wrote: > Dear all, > > I have been wondering how I can check current options of a port before I update it. The port in question (apache22) has a number of options and I would like to look at the current ones so that I do not install options that I may not need. I'd appreciate if you can point me to a reference or a command that does it. Will "make config" show it? > > Many thanks! >   > Zbigniew Szalbot > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 11:33:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD79106564A for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:33:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C2F8FC13 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p7VBXres079931; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:33:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:33:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: zszalbot@ovi.com In-Reply-To: <1314768976.20964.YahooMailNeo@web121104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <1314768976.20964.YahooMailNeo@web121104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to check current port options before updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:33:56 -0000 On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, zszalbot@ovi.com wrote: > I have been wondering how I can check current options of a port before I > update it. The port in question (apache22) has a number of options and I > would like to look at the current ones so that I do not install options > that I may not need. I'd appreciate if you can point me to a reference > or a command that does it. Will "make config" show it? make showconfig -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 11:52:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7941065673 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679D48FC14 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 31 Aug 2011 07:52:41 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.2.3-GA) with ESMTP id BBB41083; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:52:39 -0400 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=209.6.41.114; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.6.41.114; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=209.6.41.114; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="postmaster@jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 209-6-41-114.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.41.114]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 31 Aug 2011 07:52:39 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20062.8327.364825.741967@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:52:39 -0400 To: Kaspars Bankovskis In-Reply-To: <20110831111857.GB2579@numeri.kei.local> References: <1314768976.20964.YahooMailNeo@web121104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20110831111857.GB2579@numeri.kei.local> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to check current port options before updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:52:41 -0000 Kaspars Bankovskis writes: > Yes, "make config" shows saved options. For clarity: do this in /. "make showconfig" is the read-only alternative. > You can find them in the file /var/db/ports/portname/options as > well. That works too. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 13:10:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6BC106566B for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E248FC18 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so434092qwc.13 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:10:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5Dlx5rhvvhhpsSxNca7fFPAmDQXNCLOEU/rIEql7Ma8=; b=YSvf0SjZcYAnK/HB8plZALHL98TCmXrnUPN/bINHZ7Ed9fbce4taZtPjyWTkE7LzQo ksDu5YXgzJt+HrH1mtSH8razDqPlDx7TON5j7d6w156W9UZtWd5QVscpwepzD9fJFyvr HYCo5JDMYBxcV+0Y1UB7807OOoSXCceSE8pMY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.89.66 with SMTP id d2mr255845qcm.93.1314794541610; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 05:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.89.138 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 05:42:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1314768976.20964.YahooMailNeo@web121104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1314768976.20964.YahooMailNeo@web121104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:42:21 +0300 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: zszalbot@ovi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to check current port options before updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:10:05 -0000 On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:36 AM, wrote: > Dear all, > > I have been wondering how I can check current options of a port before I = update it. The port in question (apache22) has a number of options and I wo= uld like to look at the current ones so that I do not install options that = I may not need. I'd appreciate if you can point me to a reference or a comm= and that does it. Will "make config" show it? > > Many thanks! You can also use --force-config if you use portmaster. Regards, George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 13:47:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A25106566B for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5898FC18 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyd10 with SMTP id 10so678999gyd.13 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:46:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=53mHnTRMCtNXPfmz4XeCtOrKCSGn4XHVR4ZZ2TWG66o=; b=rnvWKcuq4CFA6zqqNwxPrTWykKDEgf+GV4DbUN1D67I2upE8k2O0GP1qbdcat4nPCM awkCHS6y1hUpsAGby0mNWXhB6X1I3WWCumhN9sqCwaUSxaOKWesOHpWXcLsCyvJhBl7o x4Cte+4aUmXYqhrXEGpIpOTD3IUpmE0/zzeZY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.176.226 with SMTP id b62mr2096245yhm.78.1314798419625; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.103.19 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:46:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:46:59 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Marco Beishuizen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vpn using pptpclient in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:47:00 -0000 On 30 August 2011 22:51, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up a vpn connection to the university library by using > pptpclient. In other OS's this takes around 10 seconds, but in FreeBSD this > seems very difficult to do, and I've no idea why. It looks like there is a > connection made, but after a minute or two it just disconnects and still > unable to access the vpn. > > My ppp.conf is: > EUR: > set authname "xxxx@xxxx.xx" > set authkey "xxxxxxx" > set timeout 0 > set ifaddr 0 0 > add vpn-eur-pptp.eur.nl HISADDR > disable ipv6cp > > The messages log says: > Jun 2 22:12:16 yokozuna pptp[40950]: anon log[main:pptp.c:314]: The > synchronous pptp option is NOT activated > Jun 2 22:12:16 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]* > *: Sent control packet type is 1 'Start-Control-Connection-**Request' > Jun 2 22:12:16 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:**739]: > Received Start Control Connection Reply > Jun 2 22:12:16 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:**773]: > Client connection established. > Jun 2 22:12:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]* > *: Sent control packet type is 7 'Outgoing-Call-Request' > Jun 2 22:12:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:**858]: > Received Outgoing Call Reply. > Jun 2 22:12:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:**897]: > Outgoing call established (call ID 0, peer's call ID 58282). > Jun 2 22:12:17 yokozuna kernel: tun0: link state changed to UP > Jun 2 22:13:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:677]: > Echo Request received. > Jun 2 22:13:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]* > *: Sent control packet type is 6 'Echo-Reply' > Jun 2 22:15:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[pptp_handle_timer:pptp_**ctrl.c:1050]: > closing control connection due to missing echo reply > Jun 2 22:15:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]* > *: Sent control packet type is 12 'Call-Clear-Request' > Jun 2 22:15:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[pptp_conn_close:pptp_ctrl.* > *c:430]: Closing PPTP connection > Jun 2 22:15:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]* > *: Sent control packet type is 3 'Stop-Control-Connection-**Request' > Jun 2 22:15:17 yokozuna pptp[40955]: anon log[call_callback:pptp_**callmgr.c:79]: > Closing connection (call state) > Jun 2 22:15:47 yokozuna pptp[40956]: anon warn[decaps_hdlc:pptp_gre.c:**204]: > short read (0): No buffer space available > Jun 2 22:15:47 yokozuna kernel: tun0: link state changed to DOWN > > After a lot of searching and googling I never found the answer. Has anyone > here succeeded in setting up a working pptp vpn connection? > > Thanks in advance, > Marco > > -- > Kiss me twice. I'm schizophrenic. > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > have you tried mpd? I always found pptpclient a bit prone to issues http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/pppoa.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 14:47:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7642B106566B for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [209.240.79.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8AE8FC18 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0605815D for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:28:55 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:28:55 -0500 Message-Id: <20110831142612.M60869@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 127.0.0.1 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Subject: ia64 kernel conf error BRIDGE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:47:20 -0000 While attempting to ecompile the 8.1 ia64 kernel, the following error was produced: /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/BRIGHTSTAR: unknown option "BRIDGE" *** Error code 1 Is this option no longer supported? Is there an alternative? Thanks, Gene -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 15:05:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D4B106566B for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [209.240.79.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6B18FC17 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9935165 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:05:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:05:48 -0500 Message-Id: <20110831145836.M75538@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 127.0.0.1 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Subject: ia64 kernel conf error BRIDGE - Addtional problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:05:47 -0000 In reference to the message " ia64 kernel conf error BRIDGE" I simply deleted the option. Also had to delete option IPSEC_ESP. Compile proceeded normally until I got: xform_ipcomp.o(.text+0xe3c): In function `ipcomp_output': /usr/src/sys/netipsec/xform_ipcomp.c:448: undefined reference to `crypto_dispatch' Is there also a problem with option IPSEC? Maybe I should just grab the GENERIC config and start over. Problem is - I'm not sure what changes I made. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 15:09:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E94106566B for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C658FC18 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QymPt-0003TS-8y; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:31 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QymPa-0002tH-W4; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:07 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7VF96AD092772; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p7VF96D5092771; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:06 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Gene Message-ID: <20110831150906.GA92762@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Gene , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110831142612.M60869@brightstar.bomgardner.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110831142612.M60869@brightstar.bomgardner.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ia64 kernel conf error BRIDGE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:09:36 -0000 On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 09:28:55AM -0500, Gene wrote: > While attempting to ecompile the 8.1 ia64 kernel, the following error was ^^^^ I think you mean amd64. > produced: > > /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/BRIGHTSTAR: unknown option > "BRIDGE" > *** Error code 1 > > Is this option no longer supported? Is there an alternative? > > Thanks, > Gene > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 15:22:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DBD1065674 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFBF08FC18 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id T22P1h0030mlR8UAD399h4; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:09:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id T38x1h00X4Mx3R28X38zre; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:09:06 +0000 Message-ID: <4E5E4E8E.4030108@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:09:02 -0400 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110805 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gene References: <20110831145836.M75538@brightstar.bomgardner.net> In-Reply-To: <20110831145836.M75538@brightstar.bomgardner.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ia64 kernel conf error BRIDGE - Addtional problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:22:24 -0000 On 08/31/2011 11:05 AM, Gene wrote: > In reference to the message " ia64 kernel conf error BRIDGE" I simply > deleted the option. Also had to delete option IPSEC_ESP. > > Compile proceeded normally until I got: > > xform_ipcomp.o(.text+0xe3c): In function > `ipcomp_output': > /usr/src/sys/netipsec/xform_ipcomp.c:448: undefined reference to > `crypto_dispatch' > > Is there also a problem with option IPSEC? Maybe I should just grab the > GENERIC config and start over. Problem is - I'm not sure what changes I made. > "options IPSEC" also requires you to build in support for the crypto device. Add "device crypto" to your kernel config and try the build again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 18:25:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695A8106566C for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DF78FC13 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p7VIQRCY068730; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:26:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:26:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201108311826.p7VIQRCY068730@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: basarevych@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:25:12 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 30 22:14:58 2011 > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:11:24 +0300 > From: Ross > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? > > Aug 31 05:13:24 da kernel: ad6: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error > (retrying request) LBA=107491647 > # dd if=/dev/ad6 of=/dev/null bs=1m seek=107491647 count=1 > dd: /dev/null: Inappropriate ioctl for device > > Another question: why does it fail? *I* would call that a 'bug'. > > > # dd if=/dev/ad6 of=/var/tmp/xxxx bs=1m seek=107491647 count=1 > 1+0 records in > 1+0 records out > 1048576 bytes transferred in 0.026658 secs (39334650 bytes/sec) > > So no errors. I looked at bsdlabel a it's partition f, /home. But what > is the file name? There's *no* easy way to find out. You'll have to grovel through all the filesystem metadata, and the layers of index blocks for every file until you find the 'rgiht' one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 18:27:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BAA1065675 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CF78FC18 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (a80-101-78-208.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7VIQfBs062400 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:26:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [IPv6:::1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7VIQfTk060152; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:26:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:26:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen To: krad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vpn using pptpclient in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:27:14 -0000 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, the wise krad wrote: > have you tried mpd? I always found pptpclient a bit prone to issues > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/pppoa.html Yes I did some time ago, but I found it so complicated that I never got it working. Pptpclient seems a lot simpler so I wanted to try this one first. Regards, Marco -- You'll be sorry... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 18:30:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041461065673 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC53E8FC19 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p7VIVVWg068790; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:31:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:31:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201108311831.p7VIVVWg068790@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: basarevych@gmail.com, bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201108311826.p7VIQRCY068730@mail.r-bonomi.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:30:05 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 31 13:27:07 2011 > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:26:27 -0500 (CDT) > From: Robert Bonomi > To: basarevych@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: > Subject: Re: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Aug 30 22:14:58 2011 > > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:11:24 +0300 > > From: Ross > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? > > > > Aug 31 05:13:24 da kernel: ad6: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error > > (retrying request) LBA=107491647 > > # dd if=/dev/ad6 of=/dev/null bs=1m seek=107491647 count=1 > > dd: /dev/null: Inappropriate ioctl for device > > > > Another question: why does it fail? > > *I* would call that a 'bug'. And I would be WRONG. *sigh* can't seek on /dev/null, needs to be 'skip', or 'iseek' for the the 'if'. > > # dd if=/dev/ad6 of=/var/tmp/xxxx bs=1m seek=107491647 count=1 > > 1+0 records in > > 1+0 records out > > 1048576 bytes transferred in 0.026658 secs (39334650 bytes/sec) > > > > So no errors. I looked at bsdlabel a it's partition f, /home. But what > > is the file name? > > There's *no* easy way to find out. You'll have to grovel through all > the filesystem metadata, and the layers of index blocks for every file > until you find the 'rgiht' one. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 18:31:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AA2106564A for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@ovi.com) Received: from nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DDB18FC19 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2011 18:31:33 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.233] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2011 18:31:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1033.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2011 18:31:33 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 777601.30686.bm@omp1033.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 86265 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Aug 2011 18:31:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ovi.com; s=s1024; t=1314815493; bh=9BnvXbYSJwyVjqnGilWS0LJZVut53DJTjDPiBsxq9Ck=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IpBqdg+IhgZsGgw2QSQBGX8+foth61nOvpgzPc11lhCBJx/07m1aFzls5IrIbdZEm4CJ7InMZrG0HnVU4tO4grug3TPpywzoF5OiC7K4+snT+Tcxk2wRqPbRtAtBDyxU9Q/VvF2n/eWXuAWWjRk63d9sPgSu+FcRDZP6ugwiP3U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ovi.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fIfBJoFVhC3BMPwGeURITo+VqFY//sEBP8kMtVc9YnEYZd5b1nNMFTbKGGA76FY9WK0orx1UOiEUAADkwhoS6aW50fUHaszNJU0bFIfdvP2eiFQ61oOloD20QdOvEZmcppWAiuAcDmNd5RPM4PGlF2Km+BJUu0zlgwVUrr139cM=; X-YMail-OSG: 5y19xXkVM1kibsmnOw_BAz8fkpEVZXICWi3QxGJLY.PnpSx QIT2.dGN4zJ2WcmvxlK6rQJ4XAqtrwOrFMkuumGlYAIzLnmxRSUXCxW9EPS3 zFJ1jZboK.S87dPH2meSeEWWUVlFNQ5hnc.fvdagjygpTlJJfOD1yawEt9Nk h__lc1Zk1YS32FALSEB01yO3ANOLChxLBH5I7T7Y2aBZJKxFIsN44mw4cvDu 1BOZ8HzrOWfiNOm47Qbr_vh8.e_aAl5reB3yGizfVAFL7sKsQRL6YADi6o97 ukp0qfsDiUfOQcYZ3CEDZGJB8V59rnAWZiIosWjFuHAf5.D.nKm.UsShUcIO gDeju6tCOGN.d_l79MwB95PST..zViQz.YjY3bz50p1fpR3Gz0nsjbhI_YSn 8mWNw9.uigLVOfAlfxcwtwDNVppzePCsZ8XgfM7L8S8r1eoZq3Z.VHGehBg- - Received: from [81.190.18.30] by web121106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:31:33 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.315625 References: <1314768976.20964.YahooMailNeo@web121104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1314815493.74280.YahooMailNeo@web121106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:31:33 -0700 (PDT) From: zszalbot@ovi.com To: Chris Hill In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:33:32 +0000 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to check current port options before updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zszalbot@ovi.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:31:35 -0000 Hello!=0A=A0=0A> does it. Will "make config" show it?=0A=0A> =0A> make show= config=0A=0A=0AThank you very much to everyone who has contributed - you're= simply the best :)!=A0=0A"make showconfig" is great for this purpose indee= d!=A0=0A=0AMany thanks again!=0A=0AZbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 18:57:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7B91065672 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron@aaronkaufman.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC458FC0C for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so1026949gxk.13 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.110.6 with SMTP id n6mr645461agm.31.1314815150950; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from epic.fisix.net (epic.fisix.net [69.162.65.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j30sm7494746ann.22.2011.08.31.11.25.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:25:47 -0700 From: Aaron Kaufman To: Christian Barthel Message-ID: <20110831182545.GA66284@epic.fisix.net> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:57:01 -0000 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Christian, As far as tiling window managers go I highly recommend Scrotwm [x11-wm/scrotwm]. The configuration is straight forward and getting it up a= nd running is a breeze. I have been happily using it for the past few years and I don't see myself going back. Just keep in mind there aren't any bells and whistles included, just how a WM should be :D Good luck, Aaron On 9:12:14PM, Christian Barthel wrote: > Hello,=20 > I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. It > seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3.=20 > As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big > mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe, > we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) > I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less > memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces, > and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must > run under FreeBSD.=20 > I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I > think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm > for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure.=20 > Are there any other window manager worth looking?=20 > What is your window manager?=20 > --=20 > Christian Barthel=20 > Public-Key: http://bc.user-mode.org/bc.asc=20 > Mail: bc@nyx.user-mode.org > Web: http://bc.user-mode.org --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOXnymAAoJEDpKF+mWgU0cs+wQANSmRFlH7L6/H6CBu549sV1X BC0EKWKTXGbCreDxM9xsKnEr5UD0kiqI7HhCkjwV7Khp6uWbRfdd1O+fdASEWP2r 4p/d3NHTP/Cw+6300gmCVOZ8azoER5iiWSPVe16Z2oc2OhKgI7EU6Yao4N4T+Nwn 6YvSMxj1WWjoa2upk2nKGdtB9nVX/J3YOs8YO/OloP2qKaPct5xrUaLQotcHJ1QG TaI9sKj/SR6JFw5OV7I/OrzIs6D2egY3T88qh3qtcmUvYvj91gCR4u+/mNRnorfc 6eSIxKr/4RBBy1FCZUAXB6kt69PTJNB1UazsHmsKWUI9Y33pkt5zBU5MXHT73pDb T58Et5BVmeCXZEY3UErCshy+Dhu2n6oybFjjQTAGosB0PrYqI0RhjNFrkB6efqIH bJsFwrGcv0yXS2a+F6/rW9V3zWZmluPnlj9IKwoOkN5obPhZLhrAXe9NxsCiFVvj t2ZG2atYc8lNMtevq65FKqM0AaTiizgSRxSVWkK20VZIrDoWj6foRSrjqXJ0QlQO HVhqu67iRx9BQxeYMN2dZjh/5uM4gtXppDQtkrggvcs42pEoxdXxRATp6TDm43k8 17+JBCoE1brQDx8CzrADemjIV3fNXHniTRmNs1vAipsFFx1dPPGOJfvwyfNT1cBr c0+3vGKqGhX9pu5MlojR =LTCa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 19:25:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551FB1065670 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190BE8FC0C for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7VJPOW6082641; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:25:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4E5E8A93.1010006@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:25:07 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco Beishuizen References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vpn using pptpclient in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:25:26 -0000 On 8/30/2011 5:51 PM, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > > After a lot of searching and googling I never found the answer. Has > anyone here succeeded in setting up a working pptp vpn connection? > use mpd5 from the ports. It is well supported and works very well both as a client and server. There is a sample config in the mpd.conf.example where all you need to do is change the userid and passwd and server IP... pptp_client: # # PPTP client: only outgoing calls, auto reconnect, # ipcp-negotiated address, one-sided authentication, # default route points on ISP's end # create bundle static B1 set iface route default set ipcp ranges 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 create link static L1 pptp set link action bundle B1 set auth authname MyLogin set auth password MyPass set link max-redial 0 set link mtu 1460 set link keep-alive 20 75 set pptp peer 1.2.3.4 set pptp disable windowing open -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 19:30:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B89106564A for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fish.kungfu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F028FC17 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so1119837vws.13 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:30:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hBbKEp1WX/w6bndUt5XCFOu8/20krWJI8O+YFd79C+c=; b=oh6YNWUwDWZ8GgcLTSgMm2DYyjLMtVfKsUIwkoTB+YtNVKvAsZPyYi4iNr5JiUMYpz 1DIZXTmSkTuVcANnHZ6VIJvDaAmz+YI9JxKcuwK7ldeLXrRXTkAaHgGe239WaLdYCHZt 2hpYYVNmMOd+sVSMjHr1svwN6lN4DRLg/66HU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.23.52 with SMTP id j20mr808183vdf.24.1314819024627; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.159.132 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.159.132 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:30:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110831182545.GA66284@epic.fisix.net> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <20110831182545.GA66284@epic.fisix.net> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:30:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: Fish Kungfu To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:30:25 -0000 +11 for ScrotWM On Aug 31, 2011 2:57 PM, "Aaron Kaufman" wrote: > Christian, > > As far as tiling window managers go I highly recommend Scrotwm > [x11-wm/scrotwm]. The configuration is straight forward and getting it up and > running is a breeze. I have been happily using it for the past few years and > I don't see myself going back. Just keep in mind there aren't any bells and > whistles included, just how a WM should be :D > > Good luck, > > Aaron > > On 9:12:14PM, Christian Barthel wrote: >> Hello, > >> I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. It >> seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3. > >> As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big >> mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe, >> we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) > >> I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less >> memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces, >> and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must >> run under FreeBSD. > >> I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I >> think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm >> for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure. > >> Are there any other window manager worth looking? > >> What is your window manager? > > >> -- >> Christian Barthel > >> Public-Key: http://bc.user-mode.org/bc.asc >> Mail: bc@nyx.user-mode.org >> Web: http://bc.user-mode.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 20:00:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37B6106566C for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfunk6@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9B78FC13 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110831200003.OICJ3924.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net>; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:00:03 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.20] ([72.192.114.65]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id T8031h00H1QjWw802803w1; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:00:03 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020207.4E5E92C3.0129,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vWikg9PSJH5eWPsfInVwkFcjRsjcbcFZH9bro1lAIgk= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=nTSl362JsOMP97HOnYaBAg==:17 a=cFfC_uD6lMDZyXlWbzQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=nTSl362JsOMP97HOnYaBAg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: Derek Funk To: Chris Hill In-Reply-To: References: <1314662420.1588.5.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> <1314727772.1602.3.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:00:02 -0500 Message-ID: <1314820802.1527.4.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: wlan setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:00:05 -0000 On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 23:20 -0400, Chris Hill wrote: > On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Derek Funk wrote: > > > On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 19:00 -0500, Derek Funk wrote: > > [ ... ] > > Drivers are loaded and I tried using SYNCDHCP instead of just DHCP in > > rc.conf. > > I even tried my own entry in devd.conf as shown in a google search. But > > still it links to the access point but does not get an IP. > > Not to belabor the obvious, but do you have a working DHCP server > available to the WAP? > Yes as I stated in the original post. It works fine with Windows and Ubuntu. Just doesn't work with FreeBSD. I even tried PCBSD with its gui networking tool. It links but does not get an IP. I haven't been to the machine again to check logs messages to see wpa_supplicant errors. Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 20:14:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08BF106566B for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3788FC12 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (a80-101-78-208.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7VKEERv010805 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:14:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [IPv6:::1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7VKEEOi010383; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:14:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:14:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen To: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <4E5E8A93.1010006@sentex.net> Message-ID: References: <4E5E8A93.1010006@sentex.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vpn using pptpclient in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:14:47 -0000 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, the wise Mike Tancsa wrote: > use mpd5 from the ports. It is well supported and works very well both > as a client and server. > > There is a sample config in the mpd.conf.example where all you need to > do is change the userid and passwd and server IP... > > pptp_client: > # > # PPTP client: only outgoing calls, auto reconnect, > # ipcp-negotiated address, one-sided authentication, > # default route points on ISP's end > # > > create bundle static B1 > set iface route default > set ipcp ranges 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 > > create link static L1 pptp > set link action bundle B1 > set auth authname MyLogin > set auth password MyPass > set link max-redial 0 > set link mtu 1460 > set link keep-alive 20 75 > set pptp peer 1.2.3.4 > set pptp disable windowing > open I used the mpd.conf above but mpd5 doesn't work either. It looks like it makes a connection but I don't have a vpn connection and it didn't log in. I do get a lot of output though: ... process 9290 started, version 5.5 (root@yokozuna.lan 17:08 30-Jul-2011) CONSOLE: listening on 127.0.0.1 5005 web: listening on 0.0.0.0 5006 [B1] Bundle: Interface ng0 created [L1] [L1] Link: OPEN event [L1] LCP: Open event [L1] LCP: state change Initial --> Starting [L1] LCP: LayerStart [L1] PPTP call successful [L1] Link: UP event [L1] LCP: Up event [L1] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #1 [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 1b3bd364 [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #2 [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 1b3bd364 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Reject #2 (Req-Sent) [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #3 [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 1b3bd364 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Nak #3 (Req-Sent) [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #4 [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 1b3bd364 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Ack #4 (Req-Sent) [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 1b3bd364 [L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Ack-Rcvd) [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 [L1] LCP: SendConfigAck #1 [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 [L1] LCP: state change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened [L1] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing [L1] LCP: LayerUp [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #1 len: 21 [L1] Name: "" [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 69 [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #2 len: 21 [L1] Name: "" [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #2 len: 69 [L1] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #2 len: 46 [L1] MESG: S=6FF41EBC586F72996FE28623516DEB70E57D6B5D [L1] LCP: authorization successful [L1] Link: Matched action 'bundle "B1" ""' [L1] Link: Join bundle "B1" [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 1 link, total bandwidth 64000 bps [B1] IPCP: Open event [B1] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting [B1] IPCP: LayerStart [B1] IPCP: Up event [B1] IPCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #1 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 [B1] 130.115.3.34 is OK [B1] IPCP: SendConfigAck #0 [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 [B1] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent [L1] rec'd unexpected protocol CCP, rejecting [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #2 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Reject #2 (Ack-Sent) [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #3 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #3 (Ack-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.13 [B1] 130.115.77.13 is OK [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #4 [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.13 [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Ack #4 (Ack-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.13 [B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened [B1] IPCP: LayerUp [B1] 130.115.77.13 -> 130.115.3.34 [B1] IFACE: Add route 0.0.0.0/0 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists [B1] IFACE: Up event [L1] LCP: no reply to 1 echo request(s) [L1] PPTP call terminated [L1] Link: DOWN event [L1] LCP: Down event [L1] LCP: state change Opened --> Starting [L1] Link: Leave bundle "B1" [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 0 links, total bandwidth 9600 bps [B1] IPCP: Close event [B1] IPCP: state change Opened --> Closing [B1] IPCP: SendTerminateReq #5 [B1] IPCP: LayerDown [B1] IFACE: Down event [B1] IPCP: Down event [B1] IPCP: LayerFinish [B1] Bundle: No NCPs left. Closing links... [B1] IPCP: state change Closing --> Initial [L1] LCP: LayerDown [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 1 in 4 seconds [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 1 [L1] PPTP call successful [L1] Link: UP event [L1] LCP: Up event [L1] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #5 [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM e39245f6 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 [L1] LCP: SendConfigAck #0 [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 [L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #6 [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM e39245f6 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Reject #6 (Ack-Sent) [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #7 [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM e39245f6 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Nak #7 (Ack-Sent) [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #8 [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM e39245f6 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Ack #8 (Ack-Sent) [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM e39245f6 [L1] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened [L1] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing [L1] LCP: LayerUp [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #1 len: 21 [L1] Name: "" [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 69 [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #2 len: 21 [L1] Name: "" [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxx" [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #2 len: 69 [L1] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #2 len: 46 [L1] MESG: S=47BE961BBC6125AF22312007C50FE01CFA34A4BF [L1] LCP: authorization successful [L1] Link: Matched action 'bundle "B1" ""' [L1] Link: Join bundle "B1" [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 1 link, total bandwidth 64000 bps [B1] IPCP: Open event [B1] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting [B1] IPCP: LayerStart [B1] IPCP: Up event [B1] IPCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #6 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 [B1] 130.115.3.34 is OK [B1] IPCP: SendConfigAck #0 [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 [B1] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent [L1] rec'd unexpected protocol CCP, rejecting [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #7 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Reject #7 (Ack-Sent) [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #8 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #8 (Ack-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 [B1] 130.115.77.18 is OK [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #9 [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Ack #9 (Ack-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 [B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened [B1] IPCP: LayerUp [B1] 130.115.77.18 -> 130.115.3.34 [B1] IFACE: Add route 0.0.0.0/0 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists [B1] IFACE: Up event [L1] LCP: no reply to 1 echo request(s) [L1] PPTP call terminated [L1] Link: DOWN event [L1] LCP: Down event [L1] LCP: state change Opened --> Starting [L1] Link: Leave bundle "B1" [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 0 links, total bandwidth 9600 bps [B1] IPCP: Close event [B1] IPCP: state change Opened --> Closing [B1] IPCP: SendTerminateReq #10 [B1] IPCP: LayerDown [B1] IFACE: Down event [B1] IPCP: Down event [B1] IPCP: LayerFinish [B1] Bundle: No NCPs left. Closing links... [B1] IPCP: state change Closing --> Initial [L1] LCP: LayerDown [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 1 in 1 seconds [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 1 [L1] PPTP call failed [L1] Link: DOWN event [L1] LCP: Down event [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 2 in 1 seconds [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 2 [L1] PPTP call successful [L1] Link: UP event [L1] LCP: Up event [L1] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #9 [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM af501566 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 [L1] LCP: SendConfigAck #0 [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 [L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #10 [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM af501566 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Reject #10 (Ack-Sent) [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #11 [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM af501566 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Nak #11 (Ack-Sent) [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #12 [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM af501566 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Ack #12 (Ack-Sent) [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM af501566 [L1] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened [L1] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing [L1] LCP: LayerUp [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #1 len: 21 [L1] Name: "" [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 69 [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #2 len: 21 [L1] Name: "" [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #2 len: 69 [L1] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #2 len: 46 [L1] MESG: S=FE6CC5E2918F95A0F85296345B2AB78823E3DB4D [L1] LCP: authorization successful [L1] Link: Matched action 'bundle "B1" ""' [L1] Link: Join bundle "B1" [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 1 link, total bandwidth 64000 bps [B1] IPCP: Open event [B1] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting [B1] IPCP: LayerStart [B1] IPCP: Up event [B1] IPCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #11 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 [B1] 130.115.3.34 is OK [B1] IPCP: SendConfigAck #0 [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 [B1] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent [L1] rec'd unexpected protocol CCP, rejecting [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #12 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Reject #12 (Ack-Sent) [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #13 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #13 (Ack-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 [B1] 130.115.77.18 is OK [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #14 [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Ack #14 (Ack-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 [B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened [B1] IPCP: LayerUp [B1] 130.115.77.18 -> 130.115.3.34 [B1] IFACE: Add route 0.0.0.0/0 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists [B1] IFACE: Up event [L1] LCP: no reply to 1 echo request(s) [L1] PPTP call terminated [L1] Link: DOWN event [L1] LCP: Down event [L1] LCP: state change Opened --> Starting [L1] Link: Leave bundle "B1" [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 0 links, total bandwidth 9600 bps [B1] IPCP: Close event [B1] IPCP: state change Opened --> Closing [B1] IPCP: SendTerminateReq #15 [B1] IPCP: LayerDown [B1] IFACE: Down event [B1] IPCP: Down event [B1] IPCP: LayerFinish [B1] Bundle: No NCPs left. Closing links... [B1] IPCP: state change Closing --> Initial [L1] LCP: LayerDown [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 1 in 2 seconds [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 1 [L1] PPTP call failed [L1] Link: DOWN event [L1] LCP: Down event [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 2 in 4 seconds [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 2 [L1] PPTP call successful [L1] Link: UP event [L1] LCP: Up event [L1] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #13 [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 43e2ed8a [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 [L1] LCP: SendConfigAck #0 [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 [L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #14 [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 43e2ed8a [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Reject #14 (Ack-Sent) [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #15 [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 43e2ed8a [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Nak #15 (Ack-Sent) [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #16 [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 43e2ed8a [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Ack #16 (Ack-Sent) [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 43e2ed8a [L1] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened [L1] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing [L1] LCP: LayerUp [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #1 len: 21 [L1] Name: "" [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 69 [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #2 len: 21 [L1] Name: "" [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #2 len: 69 [L1] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #2 len: 46 [L1] MESG: S=D598FC6A729F31EDC963B80A83490DBB525D69F6 [L1] LCP: authorization successful [L1] Link: Matched action 'bundle "B1" ""' [L1] Link: Join bundle "B1" [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 1 link, total bandwidth 64000 bps [B1] IPCP: Open event [B1] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting [B1] IPCP: LayerStart [B1] IPCP: Up event [B1] IPCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #16 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 [B1] 130.115.3.34 is OK [B1] IPCP: SendConfigAck #0 [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 [B1] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent [L1] rec'd unexpected protocol CCP, rejecting [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #17 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Reject #17 (Ack-Sent) [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #18 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #18 (Ack-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 [B1] 130.115.77.18 is OK [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #19 [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Ack #19 (Ack-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 [B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened [B1] IPCP: LayerUp [B1] 130.115.77.18 -> 130.115.3.34 [B1] IFACE: Add route 0.0.0.0/0 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists [B1] IFACE: Up event ... Regards, Marco -- There was a mad scientist (a mad... social... scientist) who kidnapped three colleagues, an engineer, a physicist, and a mathematician, and locked each of them in separate cells with plenty of canned food and water but no can opener. A month later, returning, the mad scientist went to the engineer's cell and found it long empty. The engineer had constructed a can opener from pocket trash, used aluminum shavings and dried sugar to make an explosive, and escaped. The physicist had worked out the angle necessary to knock the lids off the tin cans by throwing them against the wall. She was developing a good pitching arm and a new quantum theory. The mathematician had stacked the unopened cans into a surprising solution to the kissing problem; his desiccated corpse was propped calmly against a wall, and this was inscribed on the floor: Theorem: If I can't open these cans, I'll die. Proof: assume the opposite... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 21:45:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC53106564A for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:45:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6982B8FC19 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so1199878gxk.13 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.132.12 with SMTP id j12mr762378ann.157.1314827145613; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.59.7 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.221] Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:45:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: ZFSv28+NFSv4 poor file creation performance, "sync=disabled" has no effect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:45:46 -0000 I'm testing FreeBSD 9.0-BETA with an eye toward eventually using FreeBSD 9.0 to replace some existing OpenSolaris 2008.11 installations. I've found NFS file creation performance (as measured by Bonnie++) is equally slow for both with default settings. However, on OpenSolaris I disable the ZIL to improve file creation performance. This tuning parameter was removed from FreeBSD 9.0; its replacement is supposed to be the per-filesystem flag "sync", but setting this flag seems to have no effect. I did recompile the FreeBSD kernel without debugging features before doing the tests, so I don't think this is a case of debugging code slowing things down. Here's the relevant data; these are all from bonnie++'s "sequential create" benchmark. OpenSolaris 2008.11, default settings: 58/second OpenSolaris 2008.11, with "zil_disable=1": 1258/second FreeBSD 9.0-BETA, default settings: 107/second FreeBSD 9.0-BETA, with "sync=disabled": 106/second It appears the "sync" ZFS parameter has no effect in FreeBSD. Has anyone else seen this? Is there a way to improve NFS file creation performance now that zil_disable has been removed? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 22:06:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FF3106566B for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310A08FC0A for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C54378C28 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:47:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.6.6 (20110518) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id f-wkjRSuYtYu for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:47:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0EAEE78C19 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:47:23 +0200 (CEST) From: bsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:47:22 +0200 Message-Id: To: Liste FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Resetting bootloader on a CF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:06:46 -0000 Hi,=20 I am trying to reset the bootloader of a pfSense nanoBSD CF card.=20 I need the boot loader to be reset because=20 > The embedded image set the bootloader to use a serial console. That = isn't necessary with the box I am trying to use (the BIOS does console = redirection to the serial port for you) and causes the boot to hang. Part of the solution seems to be :=20 1. Mount the CF on a FBSD=20 2. Initialize the bootloader with :=20 # fdisk -B /dev/ 3. This is where I need you help=85=20 How can I re-install a boot loader ?=20 Should I use the command :=20 # fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device Any other suggestion, guidance will be welcome.=20 Thanks for your support.=20 P.S. I'll check your answer in 10+ hours as I am already tired and It is = 11.45 pm in Paris where I leave. ;-) - thanks for your understanding.=20 =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96= =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96 ---------> Gr=E9gory Bernard Director <--------- ---------------> www.osnet.eu <--------------- --> Your provider of OpenSource appliances <-- =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96= =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96 OSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetO From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 22:29:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2691065672 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F0B8FC13 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 95324E807D8; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:29:04 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: bsd Message-ID: <20110831222904.GB27137@thought.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: Resetting bootloader on a CF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:29:05 -0000 On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:47:22PM +0200, bsd wrote: > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:47:22 +0200 > From: bsd > Subject: Resetting bootloader on a CF > To: Liste FreeBSD > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) > > Hi, > > I am trying to reset the bootloader of a pfSense nanoBSD CF card. > > I need the boot loader to be reset because > > > The embedded image set the bootloader to use a serial console. That isn't necessary with the box I am trying to use (the BIOS does console redirection to the serial port for you) and causes the boot to hang. > > > Part of the solution seems to be : > > 1. Mount the CF on a FBSD > 2. Initialize the bootloader with : > > # fdisk -B /dev/ > > 3. This is where I need you help? > > > How can I re-install a boot loader ? > > Should I use the command : > > # fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device > > > Any other suggestion, guidance will be welcome. > > > Thanks for your support. > > > P.S. I'll check your answer in 10+ hours as I am already tired and It is 11.45 pm in Paris where I leave. ;-) - thanks for your understanding. > Egad--or OMG--or whatever. A friend helped me build a pfsense "kit" (4watt) a few months ago. It has worked perfectly so far. Running 24*7 since. I'll be watching this space... . > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 23:25:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB6E106564A for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8188FC08 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p7VNPKxr070351 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:25:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p7VNPKS8070350; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA26191; Wed, 31 Aug 11 16:20:54 PDT Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:20:48 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: basarevych@gmail.com Message-Id: <4e5f2440.hTx3mrA+qH6Xa5WH%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4e5e32f0.9who12387o0moTmx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jdc@parodius.com Subject: Re: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:25:21 -0000 Ross wrote: > >> Aug 31 05:13:24 da kernel: ad6: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC > >> error (retrying request) LBA=107491647 > > ... > > What does > > > > ??egrep 'ad[0-9]|ata' /var/run/dmesg.boot > > > > report? > > atapci0: port > 0x20b8-0x20bf,0x20cc-0x20cf,0x20b0-0x20b7,0x20c8-0x20cb,0x20a0-0x20af > mem 0xe0284000-0xe02843ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 > atapci0: [ITHREAD] > ata2: on atapci0 > ata2: [ITHREAD] > ata3: on atapci0 > ata3: [ITHREAD] > ad4: 238475MB at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA > ad6: 476940MB at ata3-master UDMA100 SATA > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad6s1a Different hardware than mine, so my w/a may not help. If it's only happened the one time, you may want to just write it off as a glitch. If it happens frequently, or you start getting unrecovered failures, you could _try_ atacontrol mode ad6 UDMA66 Slowing down the transfer rate may make it more tolerant of electrical noise, bad cabling, etc. This approach worked for me, but on a PATA (not SATA) port and using a different type of controller (a VIA 6421). > smartd also reports this: > > Aug 31 10:41:04 da smartd[886]: Device: /dev/ad6, Failed SMART > usage Attribute: 184 End-to-End_Error. > > I found this explanation: http://kb.acronis.com/content/9119 > > So disk is dying? Or is it cable. I have no physical access to > the server at the moment. I'll leave the SMART analysis to those who are familiar with it :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 31 23:25:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD14106566B for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:25:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3418FC0C for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p7VNPLEc070356 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:25:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p7VNPLLn070355; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA26205; Wed, 31 Aug 11 16:23:05 PDT Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:22:59 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com, basarevych@gmail.com Message-Id: <4e5f24c3.agV2UHzbjHEXght8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <201108311826.p7VIQRCY068730@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201108311826.p7VIQRCY068730@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:25:22 -0000 Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Aug 31 05:13:24 da kernel: ad6: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC > > error (retrying request) LBA=107491647 > > ... I looked at bsdlabel a it's partition f, /home. But what > > is the file name? > > There's *no* easy way to find out. You'll have to grovel through > all the filesystem metadata, and the layers of index blocks for > every file until you find the 'rgiht' one. This is what "icheck -B" was for, but icheck(8) no longer exists and that particular bit of functionality does not seem to be provided in fsck(8). One current userland utility (other than fsck) which does know how to grovel through the metadata and index blocks is dump(8), but you'd have to hack on it to report which inode was using a particular block. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 03:50:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570CA106566B for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 03:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor2.peak.org (redcondor2.peak.org [69.59.192.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AF88FC13 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 03:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([207.55.16.112]) by redcondor2.peak.org ({6c724cae-de34-4c5f-b615-3072b86419fa}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20110901035023937 for ; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 03:50:23 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from maple.localnet (unknown [207.55.106.132]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 511304891C3 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [IPv6:2001:1938:266::6f:616b]) by maple.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id C360361F84 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C59BCD94 for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p813oIXV002717; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201108311826.p7VIQRCY068730@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4e5f24c3.agV2UHzbjHEXght8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:50:18 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4e5f24c3.agV2UHzbjHEXght8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> (perryh@pluto.rain.com's message of "Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:22:59 -0700") Message-ID: <87vctc6hvp.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 03:50:26 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com writes: > Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> > Aug 31 05:13:24 da kernel: ad6: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC >> > error (retrying request) LBA=107491647 >> > ... I looked at bsdlabel a it's partition f, /home. But what >> > is the file name? >> >> There's *no* easy way to find out. You'll have to grovel through >> all the filesystem metadata, and the layers of index blocks for >> every file until you find the 'rgiht' one. > > This is what "icheck -B" was for, but icheck(8) no longer exists and > that particular bit of functionality does not seem to be provided in > fsck(8). > > One current userland utility (other than fsck) which does know > how to grovel through the metadata and index blocks is dump(8), > but you'd have to hack on it to report which inode was using a > particular block. It looks like the best bet would be fsdb, assuming that it is a UFS file system. That does have a 'findblk' command to find a file containing a block, but you would need to calculate the block offset in the filesystem first. It doesn't look like it would be easy, as was said earlier. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 06:57:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886851065672 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 06:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [75.101.116.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A0C8FC08 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 06:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-108-23-64-87.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.23.64.87]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p816Iw10097534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <87vctc6hvp.fsf@oak.localnet> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:18:58 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201108311826.p7VIQRCY068730@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4e5f24c3.agV2UHzbjHEXght8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <87vctc6hvp.fsf@oak.localnet> To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 06:57:18 -0000 On 31 August 2011, at 20:50, Carl Johnson wrote: > perryh@pluto.rain.com writes: >=20 >> Robert Bonomi wrote: >>=20 >>>> Aug 31 05:13:24 da kernel: ad6: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC >>>> error (retrying request) LBA=3D107491647 >>>> ... I looked at bsdlabel a it's partition f, /home. But what >>>> is the file name? >>>=20 >>> There's *no* easy way to find out. You'll have to grovel through >>> all the filesystem metadata, and the layers of index blocks for >>> every file until you find the 'rgiht' one. >>=20 >> This is what "icheck -B" was for, but icheck(8) no longer exists and >> that particular bit of functionality does not seem to be provided in >> fsck(8). >>=20 >> One current userland utility (other than fsck) which does know >> how to grovel through the metadata and index blocks is dump(8), >> but you'd have to hack on it to report which inode was using a >> particular block. >=20 > It looks like the best bet would be fsdb, assuming that it is a UFS > file system. That does have a 'findblk' command to find a file > containing a block, but you would need to calculate the block offset = in > the filesystem first. It doesn't look like it would be easy, as was > said earlier. I created a utility some years ago that did that for UFS. I believe it = works for UFS2 but haven't verified it. If you want to try it, send me = a note and I'll ship you the code direct. -- Doug= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 07:50:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E65106564A for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 07:50:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E9C8FC0A for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 07:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-14-151.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.14.151]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C913CFD5; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:50:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p817onEi001929; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:50:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:50:49 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Carl Johnson Message-Id: <20110901095049.6366dc8a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <87vctc6hvp.fsf@oak.localnet> References: <201108311826.p7VIQRCY068730@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4e5f24c3.agV2UHzbjHEXght8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <87vctc6hvp.fsf@oak.localnet> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 07:50:53 -0000 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:50:18 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote: > perryh@pluto.rain.com writes: > > One current userland utility (other than fsck) which does know > > how to grovel through the metadata and index blocks is dump(8), > > but you'd have to hack on it to report which inode was using a > > particular block. > > It looks like the best bet would be fsdb, assuming that it is a UFS > file system. That does have a 'findblk' command to find a file > containing a block, but you would need to calculate the block offset in > the filesystem first. It doesn't look like it would be easy, as was > said earlier. Recently I had a similar problem with a disk (500GB SATA, /dev/ad6 attached to controller ata3, one UFS data partition) that had errors when accessing certain files or directories like TIMEOUT - READ_DMA48 retrying (1 retry left) LBA=419149408 or WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=9488927 Then also gvfs_done errors were displayed, and the disk then magically disappeared. On system startup, fsck failed: unknown: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA48 retrying (1 retry left) LBA=419149408 ata3: timeout waiting to issue command ata3: error issuing READ_DMA48 command There were CANNOT READ BLK: 419149408 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY and several more of such errors. The summary states: THE FOLLOWING DISK SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 419149408, 419149409, 419149410, 4 19149411, 419149412, 419149413, 419149414, 419149415, 419149416, 419149417, 4191 49418, 419149419, 419149420, 419149421, 419149422, 419149423, 419149424, 4191494 25, 419149426, 419149427, 419149428, 419149429, 419149430, 419149431, 419149432, 419149433, 419149434, 419149435, 419149436, 419149437, 419149438, 419149439, 41 9149440, 419149441, 419149442, 419149443, 419149444, 419149445, 419149446, 41914 9447, 419149448, 419149449, 419149450, 419149451, 419149452, 419149453, 41914945 4, 419149455, 419149456, 419149457, 419149458, 419149459, 419149460, 419149461, 419149462, 419149463, 419149464, 419149465, 419149466, 419149467, 419149468, 419 149469, 419149470, 419149471, 419149472, 419149473, 419149474, 419149475, 419149 476, 419149477, 419149478, 419149479, 419149480, 419149481, 419149482, 419149483 , 419149484, 419149485, 419149486, 419149487, 419149488, 419149489, 419149490, 4 19149491, 419149492, 419149493, 419149494, 419149495, 419149496, 419149497, 4191 49498, 419149499, 419149500, 419149501, 419149502, 419149503, 419149504, 4191495 05, 419149506, 419149507, 419149508, 419149509, 419149510, 419149511, 419149512, 419149513, 419149514, 419149515, 419149516, 419149517, 419149518, 419149519, 41 9149520, 419149521, 419149522, 419149523, 419149524, 419149525, 419149526, 41914 9527, 419149528, 419149529, 419149530, 419149531, 419149532, 419149533, 41914953 4, 419149535, CANNOT READ BLK: 419525632 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY THE FOLLOWING DISK SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 419525632, 419525633, 419525634, 4 19525635, 419525636, 419525637, 419525638, 419525639, 419525640, 419525641, 4195 25642, 419525643, 419525644, 419525645, 419525646, 419525647, 419525648, 4195256 49, 419525650, 419525651, 419525652, 419525653, 419525654, 419525655, 419525656, 419525657, 419525658, 419525659, 419525660, 419525661, 419525662, 419525663, CYLINDER GROUP 1115: BAD MAGIC NUMBER UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY After that, fsck suggested to re-run the procedure because the file system couldn't be marked clean. I just had a look at the device files and... # ll /dev/ad* crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 108 Aug 23 01:40 /dev/ad4 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 113 Aug 23 01:40 /dev/ad4s1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 116 Aug 23 03:40 /dev/ad4s1a crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 117 Aug 23 01:40 /dev/ad4s1b crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 118 Aug 23 03:40 /dev/ad4s1d crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 119 Aug 23 03:40 /dev/ad4s1e crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 120 Aug 23 03:40 /dev/ad4s1f crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 121 Aug 23 03:40 /dev/ad4s1g crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 122 Aug 23 03:40 /dev/ad4s1h Tadaa! You see: /dev/ad6 isn't _there_ anymore! I rebooted the system, skipped _any_ checks of /dev/ad6 and carefully mounted it (being given the correct warning): # mount -t ufs -o ro /dev/ad6 /mnt I could then browse the disk, but when entering some directories, error messaged (as above) did show up again. Then the disk was empty, and finally it was gone. As I had the original data on another disk, it wasn't a data loss for me, but a very interesting behaviour of a disk! When browsing the disk with the Midnight Commander, many files were size 0, prefixed with !, and colored red. This indicates that they couldn't be stat()ed. This traditionally shows that the file system is damaged. A dying disk could be the reason. But malfunctioning controllers and software errors also could be, even though it's often the _disk_ that needs replacing. With this introduction, I would give the following suggestion: Damaged files often cannot be "detected" by a stat() call. A means to _try_ to "detect" all files is to tar them. Mount the disk, use -o ro for security, and then run: # tar cvf /dev/null /mnt/ where /mnt is where you have mounted the disk in question. The tar program should now try to read all the files. Those that it cannot read (see stderr output) are to be considered damaged. Then locate those files. Use # ls -i This information can be used for the fsdb program. In case you're working on a mounted partition, use # fsdb -r in order to find out more about the files (inodes) that you suspect being damaged. Also see "The Sleuth Kit" (port "sleuth") with the ils and fls tools that can give good information about files and inodes. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 07:59:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205A2106564A for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 07:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89758FC0C for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 07:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-14-151.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.14.151]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4243CB9B; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:59:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p817xgdj001973; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:59:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 09:59:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: bsd Message-Id: <20110901095942.1ea34df8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: Resetting bootloader on a CF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 07:59:44 -0000 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:47:22 +0200, bsd wrote: > Part of the solution seems to be : > > 1. Mount the CF on a FBSD > 2. Initialize the bootloader with : > > # fdisk -B /dev/ Erm... You should _not_ mount (as in /sbin/mount) the CF in order to change MBR data; mounting should be restricted to its humano-mechanical part. :-) > 3. This is where I need you help… > > > How can I re-install a boot loader ? > > Should I use the command : > > # fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device > > > Any other suggestion, guidance will be welcome. You can use sysinstall for that: Configure, select the CF card to work on, don't chance anything with the slices in the fdisk editor, just make sure the slice is marked active, and in the next step, select the default MBR to be written. The command line way should be: # fdisk -BI /dev/da0 # fdisk -B -b /boot/mbr /dev/da0 (Assumption: /dev/da0 is the CF card.) Note that the first step will re-initialize the card. If you don't want to build it from scratch, i. e. _only_ modify the MBR, the second command should do it. See "man fdisk" for details on the fdisk commands. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 10:26:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18E11065673 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 10:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB3F8FC14 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 10:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110901102602.CCXN32549.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 06:26:02 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.83.25]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id TNS01h00N0YnB6A02NS22w; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 06:26:02 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.4E5F5DBA.0098,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ax4i8a8snyEA9uWfgWYmXW+3D+RWNhitQWxcW0Jxd9c= c=1 sm=1 a=fVUWg7FoXBgA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=2vO5UZG1h46htWAnE/rx2g==:17 a=1NehfiI8AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=6xK1i9IQyt99w9uSXEEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=VljhaSUMXpMA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=2vO5UZG1h46htWAnE/rx2g==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p81APxnK016210 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 05:25:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 05:25:53 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110901052553.4b1a6fe7@cox.net> In-Reply-To: References: <201108031808.p73I818v045622@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: printing to Kyocera FS-1030D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 10:26:08 -0000 On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:22:51 -0500 Ryan Coleman wrote: > Screw off. Top posting is actually a default in the mail software > community. And I will always do it. Thanks for the warning. > More annoying: Extra spaces and not removing the cruff from the > bottom of emails. And condescending asshats. Even more annoying: people who respond rudely to a politely-worded reminder re: basic netiquette. Fare thee well. > On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > > > Pierre, please do not 'top post' replies -- it makes the 'logic' of > > the message hard to follow, to wit: [snip] -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 15:21:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D677106564A for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 15:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AD38FC17 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 15:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxn22 with SMTP id 22so562755yxn.13 for ; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 08:21:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.151.200 with SMTP id f8mr241230icw.420.1314890474304; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 08:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.131.67 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 08:21:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110901095942.1ea34df8.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110901095942.1ea34df8.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 08:21:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: Resetting bootloader on a CF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:21:15 -0000 It occurs to me that there may be a couple of other wrinkles. There are kernel boot parameters that tell which kind of console to use, and there are switches you can twiddle in /boot/loader.conf, notably #console=3D"vidconsole" # A comma separated list of console(s) console (``vidconsole'') ``comconsole'' selects serial console= , ``vidconsole'' selects the video console, and ``nullconsole'' selects a mute console (useful for sys= - tems with neither a video console nor a serial port). Also make sure that /etc/ttys launches a getty process for whatever console you are using. I.e., make sure it doesn't look like this one (mine) - make sure that at least ttyv0 is on. console none unknown off secure # ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure # Virtual terminals ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure ttyv4 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure ttyv5 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure # Serial terminals # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup on secure On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:47:22 +0200, bsd wrote: >> Part of the solution seems to be : >> >> 1. Mount the CF on a FBSD >> 2. Initialize the bootloader with : >> >> # fdisk -B /dev/ > > Erm... You should _not_ mount (as in /sbin/mount) the CF > in order to change MBR data; mounting should be restricted > to its humano-mechanical part. :-) > > > >> 3. This is where I need you help=85 >> >> >> How can I re-install a boot loader ? >> >> Should I use the command : >> >> # fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device >> >> >> Any other suggestion, guidance will be welcome. > > You can use sysinstall for that: Configure, select the CF card > to work on, don't chance anything with the slices in the fdisk > editor, just make sure the slice is marked active, and in the > next step, select the default MBR to be written. > > The command line way should be: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# fdisk -BI /dev/da0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# fdisk -B -b /boot/mbr /dev/da0 > > (Assumption: /dev/da0 is the CF card.) > > Note that the first step will re-initialize the card. If you don't > want to build it from scratch, i. e. _only_ modify the MBR, the > second command should do it. > > See "man fdisk" for details on the fdisk commands. > > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 16:28:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DE3106566C for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 16:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@gehlbach.com) Received: from element.websitewelcome.com (element.websitewelcome.com [74.53.26.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10528FC2A for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 16:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [64.253.112.88] (port=60167 helo=[192.168.50.97]) by element.websitewelcome.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QzA7k-00073Q-5l; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 11:28:17 -0500 Message-ID: <4E5FB2BB.5070805@gehlbach.com> Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:28:43 -0400 From: Renee Gehlbach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110805 Thunderbird/3.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201108270043.p7R0hul1028575@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201108270043.p7R0hul1028575@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - element.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gehlbach.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: lexdsl01.4.0.0.178.a.iglou.com ([192.168.50.97]) [64.253.112.88]:60167 X-Source-Auth: krgehlba@support.gehlbach.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: cmRnZWhsYmE7cmRnZWhsYmE7ZWxlbWVudC53ZWJzaXRld2VsY29tZS5jb20= Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem reading from tape drive -- SOLVED, or at least a workaround X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:28:22 -0000 >> Is there any way I could test to make sure this is in fact what's happening? > Try writing several files to the tape, each in it's own operation, > and issue a 'mt -bsf' between each operation. > > THEN try reading from the tape. with just successive 'read' operations. > *NO* 'mt' positioning > > If everything is working 'properly', there will be *ONLY*ONE* file on the tape. > > If there is an O/S failure to 'backspace on close' you'll get all the original > files, one on each read attempt. > > If the O/S has a _complete_ 'failure to backspace', you'll get a tape that > functions identially to your earlier tests -- you can find all the file > by 'mt -fsf' between reads > > Other things to try. > 1) *write* a multi-file tape under Unbuntu, and try to read it under FreeBSD. > 2) *write* a multi-file tape under FreeBSD, and try to read it under Unbuntu. > 3) If there are read issues, see if the 'mt -fsf' hack allows you to > find everything. > OK, it's definitely an O/S failure to backspace on close, because the tape does read properly when I manually backspace after each file. >> Unfortunately, the "workaround" of running mt -fsf >> after every file read > if it worked, 'mf -bsf' after every _write_ would be a better solution. > But it probably suffers from the same 'not really usable' defect. *cheers* And YES!!!! That's a usable workaround! Luckily enough, Bacula will run a script after each backup job, all I'll have to do is add a mt -bsf command to that script! > _I_ have no clue what 'bacula' is -- sounds sort-of like a Transylvanian > back-up utility. One with 'fangs' init, and issues with mirrors. Close! It's a multi-platform client-server backup application. Its tagline used to be something like "Comes in the night, and sucks the essence from your computers." When I went to check the precise wording, though, it's no longer on their logo. I guess someone objected.....too bad, I got a kick from that tagline. I find it to be a great open-source replacement for backup exec. I can have the Bacula server and tape drive on one FreeBSD or Linux box, and install clients on all of my other FreeBSD & Linux servers, and Linux & Windows desktops to back them all up to that one tape drive. Thanks for all of your help!!!!!! Renee From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 17:19:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDD4106566B for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf1.socket.net (mf1g.socket.net [216.106.88.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34508FC19 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [216.106.88.17]) by mf1.socket.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ED7C245940 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:19:29 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jhall@socket.net X-Apparently-from: jhall@mail.socket.net X-Remote-Host: 216.106.27.23 User-Agent: Socket WebMail Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:19:29 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20110901171930.DFDD4106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: rsync connection to Windows 2008 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jhall@socket.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:19:31 -0000 I have run into a problem that I cannot find the answer to using Google and I am hoping someone has seen this before. I am connecting to a Windows 2008 server running cwRsync as a daemon. One of my six sites will not connect to the server. No error messages are seen in the cwRsync log file or the Event Viewer on the Windows 2008 computer. My network configuration is as follows. STL --WAN-- Firewall --IPsec Tunnel -- 192.168.100.56. On the remote computer, using the following command line, and I receive the following messages. rsync -avz /home 192.168.100.56::Homes rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(604) [sender=2.6.9] Looking at tcpdump, I think the connection is started, but the computer on my end is not responding after a certain time. 12:00:17.817759 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 64973, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 64) N-ST-LOUIS.65460 > 192.168.100.56.rsync: S, cksum 0x9834 (correct), 1279331061:1279331061(0) win 65535 12:00:17.817891 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 64973, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 64) N-ST-LOUIS.65460 > 192.168.100.56.rsync: S, cksum 0x9834 (correct), 1279331061:1279331061(0) win 65535 12:00:17.871976 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 11982, offset 0, flags [none], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) 192.168.100.56.rsync > N-ST-LOUIS.65460: S, cksum 0xb379 (correct), 992395985:992395985(0) ack 1279331062 win 5640 12:00:17.872064 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 64974, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 40) N-ST-LOUIS.65460 > 192.168.100.56.rsync: ., cksum 0x889c (correct), 1:1(0) ack 1 win 33120 12:00:17.872233 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 64974, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 40) N-ST-LOUIS.65460 > 192.168.100.56.rsync: ., cksum 0x889c (correct), 1:1(0) ack 1 win 33120 12:00:17.872280 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 64975, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) N-ST-LOUIS.65460 > 192.168.100.56.rsync: P, cksum 0x0923 (correct), 1:13(12) ack 1 win 33120 12:00:17.872349 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 64975, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) N-ST-LOUIS.65460 > 192.168.100.56.rsync: P, cksum 0x0923 (correct), 1:13(12) ack 1 win 33120 12:00:17.872592 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 11984, offset 0, flags [none], proto: TCP (6), length: 40) 192.168.100.56.rsync > N-ST-LOUIS.65460: ., cksum 0x0f00 (correct), 1:1(0) ack 13 win 64240 12:00:38.882477 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 12123, offset 0, flags [none], proto: TCP (6), length: 40) 192.168.100.56.rsync > N-ST-LOUIS.65460: R, cksum 0x4848 (correct), 992395986:992395986(0) win 4344 For testing, my firewall rules were set to pass in quick all, pass out quick all. The remote server is at the end of an ipsec tunnel maintained by racoon. Ping times are reasonable 53ms between sites. What really baffles me is the other five (5) sites I maintain are connecting without any problems. All are running the same version of rsync. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 18:56:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F404106564A for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tam.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141308FC15 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:56:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so2213580vws.13 for ; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 11:56:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=syu2VBsQKOV9L/9fxZF1cjzHH4h9aVLCmMs4q4LJ3yg=; b=bZAmFiML5Y+cY5azRFF2u8Zcq7ZJa9NIM1zu6TMllbSyk42TPnod3OusK9SNK66EPY vdKGwV775J7fCmCE8syYKxsH6gPDqqsVFfvhqigTYIlLxB29VmfsTuQX/wHtdlIPgf18 Rd1/+4iIFyzjM64Qum8DlLkUYhdNdjUXcGFGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.23.225 with SMTP id p1mr177443vdf.186.1314901632410; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 11:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.166.196 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 13:27:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: Sergio Tam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re:rsync connection to Windows 2008 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:56:29 -0000 2011/9/1 : > I have run into a problem that I cannot find the answer to using Google > and I am hoping someone has seen this before. > > I am connecting to a Windows 2008 server running cwRsync as a daemon. One > of my six sites will not connect to the server. No error messages are > seen in the cwRsync log file or the Event Viewer on the Windows 2008 > computer. > > My network configuration is as follows. > > STL --WAN-- Firewall --IPsec Tunnel -- 192.168.100.56. > > On the remote computer, using the following command line, and I receive > the following messages. > rsync -avz /home 192.168.100.56::Homes > rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) > rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(604) > [sender=2.6.9] > > Looking at tcpdump, I think the connection is started, but the computer on > my end is not responding after a certain time. > > 12:00:17.817759 IP [...............................................] http://www.itefix.no/i2/node/11042 http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2003-December/008119.html Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 19:22:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF811065673 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobledb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29818FC1D for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyd10 with SMTP id 10so2069062gyd.13 for ; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:22:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:x-google-sender-delegation:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yeXcUOLlIrpyOm0fqLMzjKZrShqYRarTbAbA2q6GJ4w=; b=dtVpQ5rAK+/FagKQSUB4V1LZ9/mWW94qRb3pcFB4jaWrHTFu/+eKfc+6w3oa5Iv9vL myvCgW6BXRrJ/+AA68R3hr5swEsWCwV7UN0Cdraia8kNTcMP9TWotDxP3qb7QlWuLihw 7lz+FfTYCQy7CncbAYmAiq1kijlmGmFg7XK3w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.177.72 with SMTP id c48mr1277296yhm.79.1314904934916; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: netsys.h@gmail.com X-Google-Sender-Delegation: netsys.h@gmail.com Received: by 10.236.202.9 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 12:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 20:22:14 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BGRe_V5V8Hp2JEXhNRyAHOEzlrw Message-ID: From: Alvaro Castillo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Wrong directory of FreeBSD 9.0-BETA2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:22:17 -0000 i386 and amd64 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/i386/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ Should be on? ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-amd64 Cheers! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- netSys------ http://www.byteandbit.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 19:50:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685001065673 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward20.mail.yandex.net (forward20.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222938FC15 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (smtp17.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.17]) by forward20.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 785201042417; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 23:50:25 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1314906625; bh=eq+LWqdVq5lVjctCZPAqK5pLbI9dWIo54aqQ873ctd0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AcVMUz+/rUzg9xHIRRd8PPS/lrO0dl8IVjWy3zzT3cyBgsIFuNCiIaf70Lp4lobxp 99IyJtRAOUvQ8Z9fBWj94nBOaeDtpXKbC+zI613ClF8uxRpMr3OCgCQneyZKXDI8xJ LeOZ/mnygNFkT0z0Xl8exj/IrRvbw1cWbk+JGVUA= Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 58E8F1900144; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 23:50:25 +0400 (MSD) Received: from 46-185-28-188-mltp.broadband.kyivstar.net (46-185-28-188-mltp.broadband.kyivstar.net [46.185.28.188]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id oOS0Yrx6; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 23:50:24 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:50:21 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <123778406.20110901225021@yandex.ru> To: Marco Beishuizen In-Reply-To: References: <4E5E8A93.1010006@sentex.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mike Tancsa Subject: Re[2]: vpn using pptpclient in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:50:28 -0000 Здравствуйте, Marco. Вы писали 31 августа 2011 г., 23:14:14: MB> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, the wise Mike Tancsa wrote: >> use mpd5 from the ports. It is well supported and works very well both >> as a client and server. >> >> There is a sample config in the mpd.conf.example where all you need to >> do is change the userid and passwd and server IP... >> >> pptp_client: >> # >> # PPTP client: only outgoing calls, auto reconnect, >> # ipcp-negotiated address, one-sided authentication, >> # default route points on ISP's end >> # >> >> create bundle static B1 >> set iface route default >> set ipcp ranges 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 >> >> create link static L1 pptp >> set link action bundle B1 >> set auth authname MyLogin >> set auth password MyPass >> set link max-redial 0 >> set link mtu 1460 >> set link keep-alive 20 75 >> set pptp peer 1.2.3.4 >> set pptp disable windowing >> open MB> I used the mpd.conf above but mpd5 doesn't work either. It looks like it MB> makes a connection but I don't have a vpn connection and it didn't log in. MB> I do get a lot of output though: MB> ... MB> process 9290 started, version 5.5 (root@yokozuna.lan 17:08 30-Jul-2011) MB> CONSOLE: listening on 127.0.0.1 5005 MB> web: listening on 0.0.0.0 5006 MB> [B1] Bundle: Interface ng0 created MB> [L1] [L1] Link: OPEN event MB> [L1] LCP: Open event MB> [L1] LCP: state change Initial --> Starting MB> [L1] LCP: LayerStart MB> [L1] PPTP call successful MB> [L1] Link: UP event MB> [L1] LCP: Up event MB> [L1] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #1 MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 1b3bd364 MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #2 MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 1b3bd364 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Reject #2 (Req-Sent) MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #3 MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 1b3bd364 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Nak #3 (Req-Sent) MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #4 MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 1b3bd364 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Ack #4 (Req-Sent) MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 1b3bd364 MB> [L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Ack-Rcvd) MB> [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigAck #1 MB> [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 MB> [L1] LCP: state change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened MB> [L1] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing MB> [L1] LCP: LayerUp MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #1 len: 21 MB> [L1] Name: "" MB> [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" MB> [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 69 MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #2 len: 21 MB> [L1] Name: "" MB> [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" MB> [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #2 len: 69 MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #2 len: 46 MB> [L1] MESG: S=6FF41EBC586F72996FE28623516DEB70E57D6B5D MB> [L1] LCP: authorization successful MB> [L1] Link: Matched action 'bundle "B1" ""' MB> [L1] Link: Join bundle "B1" MB> [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 1 link, total bandwidth 64000 bps MB> [B1] IPCP: Open event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerStart MB> [B1] IPCP: Up event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #1 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] 130.115.3.34 is OK MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigAck #0 MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent MB> [L1] rec'd unexpected protocol CCP, rejecting MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #2 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Reject #2 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #3 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #3 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.13 MB> [B1] 130.115.77.13 is OK MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #4 MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.13 MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Ack #4 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.13 MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerUp MB> [B1] 130.115.77.13 -> 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] IFACE: Add route 0.0.0.0/0 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists MB> [B1] IFACE: Up event MB> [L1] LCP: no reply to 1 echo request(s) MB> [L1] PPTP call terminated MB> [L1] Link: DOWN event MB> [L1] LCP: Down event MB> [L1] LCP: state change Opened --> Starting MB> [L1] Link: Leave bundle "B1" MB> [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 0 links, total bandwidth 9600 bps MB> [B1] IPCP: Close event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Opened --> Closing MB> [B1] IPCP: SendTerminateReq #5 MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerDown MB> [B1] IFACE: Down event MB> [B1] IPCP: Down event MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerFinish MB> [B1] Bundle: No NCPs left. Closing links... MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Closing --> Initial MB> [L1] LCP: LayerDown MB> [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 1 in 4 seconds MB> [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 1 MB> [L1] PPTP call successful MB> [L1] Link: UP event MB> [L1] LCP: Up event MB> [L1] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #5 MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM e39245f6 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) MB> [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigAck #0 MB> [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 MB> [L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #6 MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM e39245f6 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Reject #6 (Ack-Sent) MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #7 MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM e39245f6 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Nak #7 (Ack-Sent) MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #8 MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM e39245f6 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Ack #8 (Ack-Sent) MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM e39245f6 MB> [L1] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened MB> [L1] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing MB> [L1] LCP: LayerUp MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #1 len: 21 MB> [L1] Name: "" MB> [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" MB> [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 69 MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #2 len: 21 MB> [L1] Name: "" MB> [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxx" MB> [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #2 len: 69 MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #2 len: 46 MB> [L1] MESG: S=47BE961BBC6125AF22312007C50FE01CFA34A4BF MB> [L1] LCP: authorization successful MB> [L1] Link: Matched action 'bundle "B1" ""' MB> [L1] Link: Join bundle "B1" MB> [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 1 link, total bandwidth 64000 bps MB> [B1] IPCP: Open event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerStart MB> [B1] IPCP: Up event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #6 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] 130.115.3.34 is OK MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigAck #0 MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent MB> [L1] rec'd unexpected protocol CCP, rejecting MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #7 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Reject #7 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #8 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #8 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 MB> [B1] 130.115.77.18 is OK MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #9 MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Ack #9 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerUp MB> [B1] 130.115.77.18 -> 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] IFACE: Add route 0.0.0.0/0 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists MB> [B1] IFACE: Up event MB> [L1] LCP: no reply to 1 echo request(s) MB> [L1] PPTP call terminated MB> [L1] Link: DOWN event MB> [L1] LCP: Down event MB> [L1] LCP: state change Opened --> Starting MB> [L1] Link: Leave bundle "B1" MB> [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 0 links, total bandwidth 9600 bps MB> [B1] IPCP: Close event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Opened --> Closing MB> [B1] IPCP: SendTerminateReq #10 MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerDown MB> [B1] IFACE: Down event MB> [B1] IPCP: Down event MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerFinish MB> [B1] Bundle: No NCPs left. Closing links... MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Closing --> Initial MB> [L1] LCP: LayerDown MB> [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 1 in 1 seconds MB> [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 1 MB> [L1] PPTP call failed MB> [L1] Link: DOWN event MB> [L1] LCP: Down event MB> [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 2 in 1 seconds MB> [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 2 MB> [L1] PPTP call successful MB> [L1] Link: UP event MB> [L1] LCP: Up event MB> [L1] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #9 MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM af501566 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) MB> [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigAck #0 MB> [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 MB> [L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #10 MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM af501566 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Reject #10 (Ack-Sent) MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #11 MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM af501566 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Nak #11 (Ack-Sent) MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #12 MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM af501566 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Ack #12 (Ack-Sent) MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM af501566 MB> [L1] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened MB> [L1] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing MB> [L1] LCP: LayerUp MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #1 len: 21 MB> [L1] Name: "" MB> [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" MB> [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 69 MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #2 len: 21 MB> [L1] Name: "" MB> [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" MB> [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #2 len: 69 MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #2 len: 46 MB> [L1] MESG: S=FE6CC5E2918F95A0F85296345B2AB78823E3DB4D MB> [L1] LCP: authorization successful MB> [L1] Link: Matched action 'bundle "B1" ""' MB> [L1] Link: Join bundle "B1" MB> [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 1 link, total bandwidth 64000 bps MB> [B1] IPCP: Open event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerStart MB> [B1] IPCP: Up event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #11 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] 130.115.3.34 is OK MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigAck #0 MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent MB> [L1] rec'd unexpected protocol CCP, rejecting MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #12 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Reject #12 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #13 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #13 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 MB> [B1] 130.115.77.18 is OK MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #14 MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Ack #14 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerUp MB> [B1] 130.115.77.18 -> 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] IFACE: Add route 0.0.0.0/0 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists MB> [B1] IFACE: Up event MB> [L1] LCP: no reply to 1 echo request(s) MB> [L1] PPTP call terminated MB> [L1] Link: DOWN event MB> [L1] LCP: Down event MB> [L1] LCP: state change Opened --> Starting MB> [L1] Link: Leave bundle "B1" MB> [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 0 links, total bandwidth 9600 bps MB> [B1] IPCP: Close event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Opened --> Closing MB> [B1] IPCP: SendTerminateReq #15 MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerDown MB> [B1] IFACE: Down event MB> [B1] IPCP: Down event MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerFinish MB> [B1] Bundle: No NCPs left. Closing links... MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Closing --> Initial MB> [L1] LCP: LayerDown MB> [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 1 in 2 seconds MB> [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 1 MB> [L1] PPTP call failed MB> [L1] Link: DOWN event MB> [L1] LCP: Down event MB> [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 2 in 4 seconds MB> [L1] Link: reconnection attempt 2 MB> [L1] PPTP call successful MB> [L1] Link: UP event MB> [L1] LCP: Up event MB> [L1] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #13 MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 43e2ed8a MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) MB> [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigAck #0 MB> [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 MB> [L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #14 MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 43e2ed8a MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Reject #14 (Ack-Sent) MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #15 MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 43e2ed8a MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Nak #15 (Ack-Sent) MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #16 MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 43e2ed8a MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Ack #16 (Ack-Sent) MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 43e2ed8a MB> [L1] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened MB> [L1] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing MB> [L1] LCP: LayerUp MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #1 len: 21 MB> [L1] Name: "" MB> [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" MB> [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 69 MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #2 len: 21 MB> [L1] Name: "" MB> [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" MB> [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #2 len: 69 MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #2 len: 46 MB> [L1] MESG: S=D598FC6A729F31EDC963B80A83490DBB525D69F6 MB> [L1] LCP: authorization successful MB> [L1] Link: Matched action 'bundle "B1" ""' MB> [L1] Link: Join bundle "B1" MB> [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 1 link, total bandwidth 64000 bps MB> [B1] IPCP: Open event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerStart MB> [B1] IPCP: Up event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #16 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Request #0 (Req-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] 130.115.3.34 is OK MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigAck #0 MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent MB> [L1] rec'd unexpected protocol CCP, rejecting MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #17 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Reject #17 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #18 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #18 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 MB> [B1] 130.115.77.18 is OK MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #19 MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Ack #19 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.77.18 MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerUp MB> [B1] 130.115.77.18 -> 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] IFACE: Add route 0.0.0.0/0 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists MB> [B1] IFACE: Up event MB> ... MB> Regards, MB> Marco Notice: [B1] IFACE: Add route 0.0.0.0/0 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists You already have default route in your system why you set up the default again? Notice in conf: set iface route default -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 20:09:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5897C1065673 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 20:09:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105CD8FC0C for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 20:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p81K9Ff7080307; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 14:09:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p81K9F5q080304; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 14:09:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 14:09:15 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gary Dunn In-Reply-To: <1314873375135-017-00487746.osp.aloha.com@usi-mail08-mtka.usinternet.com> Message-ID: References: <1314625136.1663.14.camel@slate01> <1314690222088-015-00158650.osp.aloha.com@usi-mail08-mtka.usinternet.com> <1314873375135-017-00487746.osp.aloha.com@usi-mail08-mtka.usinternet.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 01 Sep 2011 14:09:15 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Tablet Digitizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 20:09:18 -0000 On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Gary Dunn wrote: > On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 12:55 -0600, Warren Block wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Gary Dunn wrote: >> >>> I have studied that and the source to what seems to be a driver, >>> "fujitsu-usb-touchscreen." >> >> This may be what you already have: >> http://spareinfo.blogspot.com/2010/10/linux-on-fujitsu-u810-p1620-t1010.html >> >> Whether it's trustworthy, compiles on FreeBSD, or works with xorg 7.5, >> don't know. > > Yes, that is on the Ubuntu side, but I cannot make any sense of it on > the FreeBSD side. > > I compared my Ubuntu Xorg.0.log with my FreeBSD Xorg.0.log. Quite > different. Here is an interesting bit. Starting at an identical line, > Ubuntu finds "Fujitsu Component USB Touch Panel" just before the > keyboard, while FreeBSD goes straight to the keyboard. Is this > significant? Well, it's Linux's evdev, which is roughly similar to devd(8). Likely that can be ignored on FreeBSD by just using another InputDevice section. Beyond that, it might require input from the freebsd-x11 list and possibly also the freebsd-usb list. If the components are there, it may be as simple as an x11-drivers/xf86-input-fujitsu-usb-touchscreen port. Maybe one of the existing drivers there is for a relatively similar USB touchscreen? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 1 20:36:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3259B106566C for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 20:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5CC8FC17 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 20:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (a80-101-78-208.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p81KZnlc042461 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:35:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [IPv6:::1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p81KZn1M006453; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:35:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:35:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen To: =?KOI8-R?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= In-Reply-To: <123778406.20110901225021@yandex.ru> Message-ID: References: <4E5E8A93.1010006@sentex.net> <123778406.20110901225021@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="394277907-1517634111-1314909349=:2952" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mike Tancsa Subject: Re[2]: vpn using pptpclient in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 20:36:27 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --394277907-1517634111-1314909349=:2952 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, the wise =CA=EE=ED=FC=EA=EE=E2 =C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9 wr= ote: > Notice: [B1] IFACE: Add route 0.0.0.0/0 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists > You already have default route in your system > why you set up the default again? > Notice in conf: > set iface route default With help from Mike Tancsa I've changed the config a bit and getting less= =20 errors now, but still not a working vpn connection. My mpd.conf is now: =2E.. # Default configuration is "pptp_client" default: =09load pptp_client pptp_client: # # PPTP client: only outgoing calls, auto reconnect, # ipcp-negotiated address, one-sided authentication, # default route points on ISP's end # =09create bundle static B1 =09set iface route 130.115.0.0/16 =09set ipcp ranges 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 =09set bundle enable compression =09set ccp yes mppc =09set mppc yes e40 =09set mppc yes e128 =09set bundle enable crypt-reqd =09set mppc yes stateless =09create link static L1 pptp =09set link action bundle B1 =09set auth authname xxxxxxxxxxxxxx =09set auth password xxxxxxxxxxxxx =09set link max-redial 0 =09set link mtu 1460 =09set link keep-alive 20 75 =09set pptp peer vpn-eur-pptp.eur.nl =09set pptp disable windowing =09open =2E.. It looks like it's setting up a correct connection, but the site of the=20 library I would like to access isn't accessible when mpd5 is running: =2E.. process 2965 started, version 5.5 (root@yokozuna.lan 17:08 30-Jul-2011) CONSOLE: listening on 127.0.0.1 5005 web: listening on 0.0.0.0 5006 [B1] Bundle: Interface ng0 created [L1] [L1] Link: OPEN event [L1] LCP: Open event [L1] LCP: state change Initial --> Starting [L1] LCP: LayerStart [L1] PPTP call successful [L1] Link: UP event [L1] LCP: Up event [L1] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #1 [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 0a9219e0 [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #2 [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 0a9219e0 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Reject #2 (Req-Sent) [L1] PROTOCOMP [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #3 [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 0a9219e0 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Reject #3 (Req-Sent) [L1] ACFCOMP [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #4 [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 0a9219e0 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Nak #4 (Req-Sent) [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #5 [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 0a9219e0 [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Ack #5 (Req-Sent) [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 [L1] MRU 1500 [L1] MAGICNUM 0a9219e0 [L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Ack-Rcvd) [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 [L1] LCP: SendConfigAck #1 [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 [L1] LCP: state change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened [L1] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing [L1] LCP: LayerUp [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #1 len: 21 [L1] Name: "" [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 69 [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #2 len: 21 [L1] Name: "" [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #2 len: 69 [L1] rec'd proto IPCP during authenticate phase [L1] rec'd proto CCP during authenticate phase [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #2 len: 69 [L1] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #2 len: 46 [L1] MESG: S=3DF1619D8A3373D2F43E6652E992CA564D66B1C1A4 [L1] LCP: authorization successful [L1] Link: Matched action 'bundle "B1" ""' [L1] Link: Join bundle "B1" [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 1 link, total bandwidth 64000 bps [B1] IPCP: Open event [B1] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting [B1] IPCP: LayerStart [B1] CCP: Open event [B1] CCP: state change Initial --> Starting [B1] CCP: LayerStart [B1] IPCP: Up event [B1] IPCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #1 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] CCP: Up event [B1] CCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [B1] CCP: SendConfigReq #1 [B1] MPPC [B1] 0x01000060:MPPE(40, 128 bits), stateless [B1] CCP: rec'd Configure Nak #1 (Req-Sent) [B1] MPPC [B1] 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless [B1] CCP: SendConfigReq #2 [B1] MPPC [B1] 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless [B1] CCP: rec'd Configure Ack #2 (Req-Sent) [B1] MPPC [B1] 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless [B1] CCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Req-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.35 [B1] 130.115.3.35 is OK [B1] IPCP: SendConfigAck #1 [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.35 [B1] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent [B1] CCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Ack-Rcvd) [B1] MPPC [B1] 0x01000060:MPPE(40, 128 bits), stateless [B1] CCP: SendConfigNak #1 [B1] MPPC [B1] 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless [B1] CCP: rec'd Configure Request #2 (Ack-Rcvd) [B1] MPPC [B1] 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless [B1] CCP: SendConfigAck #2 [B1] MPPC [B1] 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless [B1] CCP: state change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened [B1] CCP: LayerUp [B1] CCP: Compress using: mppc (MPPE(128 bits), stateless) [B1] CCP: Decompress using: mppc (MPPE(128 bits), stateless) [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #2 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Reject #2 (Ack-Sent) [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #3 [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #3 (Ack-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.85.11 [B1] 130.115.85.11 is OK [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #4 [B1] IPADDR 130.115.85.11 [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Ack #4 (Ack-Sent) [B1] IPADDR 130.115.85.11 [B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened [B1] IPCP: LayerUp [B1] 130.115.85.11 -> 130.115.3.35 [B1] IFACE: Up event =2E.. I also noticed some kernel messages when starting mpd5: =2E.. WARNING: attempt to domain_add(netgraph) after domainfinalize() Loop detected on ng0 Loop detected on ng0 Loop detected on ng0 =2E.. So I get the impression that I'm almost there. Marco --=20 Let me tell you who the actual "front-runners" are. On one side, you have George Bush, who is currently going through a sort of fraternity hazing wherein he has to perform a series of humiliating stunts to win the approva= l of the Republican Right. For example, they had him make a speech oozing praise all over William Loeb, deceased publisher of the Manchester (N.H.) Union Leader and Slime Journalist. Loeb had dumped viciously all over Geor= ge in the 1980 New Hampshire primary. But when the Right held a big tribute for Loeb, George came back to the fold, like a man with a bungee cord wrapp= ed around his neck. =09=09-- Dave Barry --394277907-1517634111-1314909349=:2952-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 03:03:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98786106566B for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 03:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfunk6@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4EA8FC20 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 03:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110902030332.AZS32549.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 23:03:32 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.20] ([72.192.114.65]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id Tf3X1h00W1QjWw802f3XRa; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 23:03:32 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020206.4E604784.004B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ax4i8a8snyEA9uWfgWYmXW+3D+RWNhitQWxcW0Jxd9c= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=nTSl362JsOMP97HOnYaBAg==:17 a=_sMpkOBrRE39aKHrTSEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J1vhBFhpIKuKM6WYG-gA:9 a=yefjuK9MeB8intWkuwgA:7 a=nTSl362JsOMP97HOnYaBAg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: Derek Funk To: FreeBSD-Questions In-Reply-To: <1314662420.1588.5.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> References: <1314662420.1588.5.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 22:03:31 -0500 Message-ID: <1314932611.1771.11.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: wlan setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 03:03:38 -0000 I have tried what the handbook says and a custom entry to devd.conf as one forum showed. wlan0 associates with the access point but does not get an IP. Drivers are loaded. No error messages in /var/log for wpa_supplicant. I have even tried using background_dhclient in rc.conf. This is an issue with freebsd not my access point. Windows, ubuntu and my cellphone have no problems obtaining an IP. I have no idea what is happening. It looks straight forward from the handbook. Unless this is a bug. I guess I'll have to ditch freebsd for awhile. Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 06:32:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B511065670 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 06:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward15.mail.yandex.net (forward15.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39CE8FC08 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 06:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (smtp14.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.192]) by forward15.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 4A2619E36C4; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:32:05 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1314945125; bh=CeLYFdNFzkaFoqLxAxNsYoxtmsiM2YTwHGXxl2CEp2o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LVpj8H4U37psRWZTJbzCu91/1IbZ3bA0V5IFcPlYe6SRwiPa0CzyciRtfXnlhXRwx 2vnMq+fAyEKX4Ysl/6v607XScjGpXQz+zdhAs5ziW28WKJ07Hbczo9wErSluNDRLBy /CkLIN/OIl6AFh36fMq9ZNwLFol3BqDhDSGQLLAc= Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 2C9431B60481; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:32:05 +0400 (MSD) Received: from 46-185-28-188-mltp.broadband.kyivstar.net (46-185-28-188-mltp.broadband.kyivstar.net [46.185.28.188]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id W4UuEMDB; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:32:04 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 09:31:53 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <638737527.20110902093153@yandex.ru> To: Marco Beishuizen In-Reply-To: References: <4E5E8A93.1010006@sentex.net> <123778406.20110901225021@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mike Tancsa Subject: Re[3]: vpn using pptpclient in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 06:32:08 -0000 Здравствуйте, Marco. Вы писали 1 сентября 2011 г., 23:35:49: MB> On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, the wise Коньков Евгений wrote: >> Notice: [B1] IFACE: Add route 0.0.0.0/0 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists >> You already have default route in your system >> why you set up the default again? >> Notice in conf: >> set iface route default MB> With help from Mike Tancsa I've changed the config a bit and getting less MB> errors now, but still not a working vpn connection. My mpd.conf is now: MB> ... MB> # Default configuration is "pptp_client" MB> default: MB> load pptp_client MB> pptp_client: MB> # MB> # PPTP client: only outgoing calls, auto reconnect, MB> # ipcp-negotiated address, one-sided authentication, MB> # default route points on ISP's end MB> # MB> create bundle static B1 MB> set iface route 130.115.0.0/16 MB> set ipcp ranges 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 MB> set bundle enable compression MB> set ccp yes mppc MB> set mppc yes e40 MB> set mppc yes e128 MB> set bundle enable crypt-reqd MB> set mppc yes stateless MB> create link static L1 pptp MB> set link action bundle B1 MB> set auth authname xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MB> set auth password xxxxxxxxxxxxx MB> set link max-redial 0 MB> set link mtu 1460 MB> set link keep-alive 20 75 MB> set pptp peer vpn-eur-pptp.eur.nl MB> set pptp disable windowing MB> open MB> ... MB> It looks like it's setting up a correct connection, but the site of the MB> library I would like to access isn't accessible when mpd5 is running: MB> ... MB> process 2965 started, version 5.5 (root@yokozuna.lan 17:08 30-Jul-2011) MB> CONSOLE: listening on 127.0.0.1 5005 MB> web: listening on 0.0.0.0 5006 MB> [B1] Bundle: Interface ng0 created MB> [L1] [L1] Link: OPEN event MB> [L1] LCP: Open event MB> [L1] LCP: state change Initial --> Starting MB> [L1] LCP: LayerStart MB> [L1] PPTP call successful MB> [L1] Link: UP event MB> [L1] LCP: Up event MB> [L1] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #1 MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 0a9219e0 MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #2 MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 0a9219e0 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Reject #2 (Req-Sent) MB> [L1] PROTOCOMP MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #3 MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 0a9219e0 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Reject #3 (Req-Sent) MB> [L1] ACFCOMP MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #4 MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 0a9219e0 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Nak #4 (Req-Sent) MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigReq #5 MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 0a9219e0 MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Ack #5 (Req-Sent) MB> [L1] ACCMAP 0x000a0000 MB> [L1] MRU 1500 MB> [L1] MAGICNUM 0a9219e0 MB> [L1] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd MB> [L1] LCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Ack-Rcvd) MB> [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 MB> [L1] LCP: SendConfigAck #1 MB> [L1] AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 MB> [L1] LCP: state change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened MB> [L1] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing MB> [L1] LCP: LayerUp MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #1 len: 21 MB> [L1] Name: "" MB> [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" MB> [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 69 MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #2 len: 21 MB> [L1] Name: "" MB> [L1] CHAP: Using authname "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" MB> [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #2 len: 69 MB> [L1] rec'd proto IPCP during authenticate phase MB> [L1] rec'd proto CCP during authenticate phase MB> [L1] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #2 len: 69 MB> [L1] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #2 len: 46 MB> [L1] MESG: S=F1619D8A3373D2F43E6652E992CA564D66B1C1A4 MB> [L1] LCP: authorization successful MB> [L1] Link: Matched action 'bundle "B1" ""' MB> [L1] Link: Join bundle "B1" MB> [B1] Bundle: Status update: up 1 link, total bandwidth 64000 bps MB> [B1] IPCP: Open event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerStart MB> [B1] CCP: Open event MB> [B1] CCP: state change Initial --> Starting MB> [B1] CCP: LayerStart MB> [B1] IPCP: Up event MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #1 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] CCP: Up event MB> [B1] CCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent MB> [B1] CCP: SendConfigReq #1 MB> [B1] MPPC MB> [B1] 0x01000060:MPPE(40, 128 bits), stateless MB> [B1] CCP: rec'd Configure Nak #1 (Req-Sent) MB> [B1] MPPC MB> [B1] 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless MB> [B1] CCP: SendConfigReq #2 MB> [B1] MPPC MB> [B1] 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless MB> [B1] CCP: rec'd Configure Ack #2 (Req-Sent) MB> [B1] MPPC MB> [B1] 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless MB> [B1] CCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Req-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.35 MB> [B1] 130.115.3.35 is OK MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigAck #1 MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.3.35 MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent MB> [B1] CCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Ack-Rcvd) MB> [B1] MPPC MB> [B1] 0x01000060:MPPE(40, 128 bits), stateless MB> [B1] CCP: SendConfigNak #1 MB> [B1] MPPC MB> [B1] 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless MB> [B1] CCP: rec'd Configure Request #2 (Ack-Rcvd) MB> [B1] MPPC MB> [B1] 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless MB> [B1] CCP: SendConfigAck #2 MB> [B1] MPPC MB> [B1] 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless MB> [B1] CCP: state change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened MB> [B1] CCP: LayerUp MB> [B1] CCP: Compress using: mppc (MPPE(128 bits), stateless) MB> [B1] CCP: Decompress using: mppc (MPPE(128 bits), stateless) MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #2 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Reject #2 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #3 MB> [B1] IPADDR 0.0.0.0 MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #3 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.85.11 MB> [B1] 130.115.85.11 is OK MB> [B1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #4 MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.85.11 MB> [B1] IPCP: rec'd Configure Ack #4 (Ack-Sent) MB> [B1] IPADDR 130.115.85.11 MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerUp MB> [B1] 130.115.85.11 -> 130.115.3.35 MB> [B1] IFACE: Up event MB> ... MB> I also noticed some kernel messages when starting mpd5: MB> ... MB> WARNING: attempt to domain_add(netgraph) after domainfinalize() MB> Loop detected on ng0 MB> Loop detected on ng0 MB> Loop detected on ng0 MB> ... MB> So I get the impression that I'm almost there. MB> Marco Try: netstat -nr ifconfig ng0 >WARNING: attempt to domain_add(netgraph) after domainfinalize() you may ignore this message. >set iface route 130.115.0.0/16 you say that behind tunnele thereis 130.115.0.0/16 subnet, but MB> [B1] 130.115.85.11 -> 130.115.3.35 you have address from subnet 130.115.0.0/16 addres on local machine so you get this message: MB> Loop detected on ng0 add routes only for subnets that on the other end of tunnel and not local >>set iface route 130.115.0.0/16 also you may remove 'iface route' from config. and setup tunnel. after that try to ping the other end: ping 130.115.3.35 add route by hand: # route add XXXXXXXX/X 130.115.3.35 # route add YYYYYYYY/Y 130.115.3.35 -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 07:56:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5ADE106566C for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 07:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unix.hacker@comcast.net) Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F618FC08 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 07:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TjhN1h00227AodY57jiryA; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:42:51 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([68.61.31.42]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Tjiq1h00H0uXiss3fjiriF; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:42:51 +0000 Message-ID: <4E608910.2070900@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 03:43:12 -0400 From: Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <4E3C4F7F.7020506@xaerolimit.net> In-Reply-To: <4E3C4F7F.7020506@xaerolimit.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:56:06 -0000 Apologies to anyone this message appears weird to up front; I'm doing some work on my Windows 7 Partition, and though I'm going to try and make sure this isn't a crappy email message, we all know how Windows can be. I've made sure it's plain text and all but if this appears weird to anyone, I'm sorry, but I have to be on Windows 7 until I finish up. Now, on to my reply :) On 8/5/2011 4:15 PM, Chris Brennan wrote: > On 8/5/2011 3:12 PM, Christian Barthel wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. It >> seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3. I don't know a lot about Gnome3, because a lot of my machines aren't very powerful by today's standards, and if what I read on RAM requirements was true, I won't be able to use it on any machine except this one anyway. I can't Believe how bad Gnome has become.... And KDE4, though very pretty, is another one I don't like. I usually install KDE3 on BSD for when I want to use KDE as I like 3 better. >> As a Gnome 2.3x user too, I am also a bit nervouse. Gnome 3 is a big >> mistake. And there are also rumors that Gnome will be Linux only. Maybe, >> we will never see Gnome3 under FreeBSD, but this is not a tragedy :) I also heard about that. If the people who work on Gnome are going to go Linux only, than, f them. I use Linux, and I like it, but I also like FreeBSD and PC-BSD. And for them to make a statement like that, they might as well piss on their userbase at the same time. That's a huge mistake. I agree with what you say about Gnome3. >> I am not very interested in eyecandy: I want a stable and fast wm (less >> memory and cpu, quick access to important places), different workspaces, >> and it should be configurable with ordinary files. Of course, It must >> run under FreeBSD. I sniffed into AfterStep, fvwm2 and fluxbox (I don't want to use KDE). I >> think, fluxbox is a nice wm and for my future, it will be the default wm >> for me. It's also very fast and easy to configure. >> Are there any other window manager worth looking? >> What is your window manager? I clumped those sections together, because I'd like to reply to basically all of it at once, so, here is MY Opinion: I'm a little weird when it comes to Window Managers. I always have been. When I first started straying away from Windows, one of the things I really liked about Linux and BSD, was that I could basically make my desktop look however I wanted. I mean, I did use KDE quite a lot, but, I found myself logging out and back in a lot to try a new one out. I'm basically a user of multiple versions of Linux, and then FreeBSD and PC-BSD (Which, really now, it's just FreeBSD with a paint job and a few custom apps, but it's still cool lol) and I Honestly couldn't pick a favorite Window Manager if I tried. I really couldn't.... I like being able to change how my Desktop looks, and I don't like being tied down to one Window Manager. I'll be sitting here working on something, and, then, out of on where, I'll be like "Hmm, I feel like making this look different" and then I'll save my work, or stop what I'm doing, log out, select a different Window Manager, and log back in, and pick up where I left off. I have ADD pretty badly, so Unix in general has always worked well for me, as Unix / Linux / BSD, they all seem to have that magical ability to use any Window Manager you want, and I like that a lot. Even though I said I couldn't pick a favorite even if I tried, I DO have a list of them that I use the most, and that I personally like the most, so, I'll give you the names of some of them, and, maybe it'll help you out :) Now, as I said before; I do like KDE, and I also like Gnome, but from what I understand, those are "Desktop Environments" and not Window Managers in the true sense of the word. I don't really care a whole lot about that, as it's nit picking to me lol, but here are the others I do Love: Window Maker. I LOVE Window Maker. It's nice looking, it fast, and it has a lot of nice themes I saved, since, well, you can't seem to ever find any of them anymore, except for that one web site where the guy has like 10 or so of them that are like space and stuff, which I'm not into. So, I grabbed my SUSE Linux 8.1 and 8.2 Professional DVDs, popped them in a machine, and copied over the Window Maker themes those versions of SUSE came with, as they are WAY nicer. So, once I did that, I opened up the RPMs, and grabbed all the themes. So now I have them for any Linux or BSD I use. Window Maker in general is cool, and, it can look REALLY nice. And, it's very simply. It also doesn't use up all your Resources which is a huge plus as well. FVWM - I'll lump FVWM, FVWM2, and FVWM-Crystal all in one here, and just say I really like those too. I've used all of those, and also FVWM95, but I didn't like 95 as much as the other ones. Again, these are very fast, look cool, and use very little in resources. I'd like to figure out one day how to configure the Themes and menus myself, but for now, they rock either way heh. Enlightenment - E16 and E17.... These are some of the best looking Window Managers I've EVER had the Pleasure of using... I can't say enough good about Enlightenment... I LOVE Enlightenment.... The look is simply amazing, and the Special FX, awesome. And the fact that it somehow managed not to use up all your RAM and CPU, amazes me even more. I totally LOVE E, and I Hope they continue making it work. You have a nice menu system, and you can also right click on the background to pull up even more. You can configure everything on it very easily, and, just all around, it's awesome. The Themes they have come up with amaze me, and I LOVE it. And in E17, they have the Favorites menu, which you can configure as well, which is great for someone like me who uses a lot of different apps. IceWM - IceWM is another one I've used countless times. I again, can't say enough good things about it. It's fairly light on the requirements as well, so, give that a try if you like. There are also countless themes for it, so you can change how it looks with a few clicks. AfterStep - AfterStep, which I see you've used, is another one I Love. Basically, looking like Window Maker, made me happy with it. TWM - I know TWM is dated, but when it comes to "Light on Resources" it's hard to beat. I don't use it a whole lot, but when I do, it's always been very responsive, and easy to keep the memory use low. I know that FreeBSD has a metric ton of Window Managers you can install very easily, and I couldn't tlk about them all, or remember them all, even if I tried, but I know that it's pretty simple to basically do this: pkg_add -r bunchOfWindowManagers moreWindowManagers And so on. Or at least that's how I do it normally. I just went to the FreeBSD.org Web Site, and went into the Ports Section, and looked up the Window Managers section, and started installing them to try them out. Anyway, I don't want you to have to read a 300 page email as this has gotten a lot of replies, but I Hope I've helped in some way. -Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 08:49:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC09106566B for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 08:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from osp@aloha.com) Received: from mail003.19.63.A.static.mtka.securence.com (mail003.19.63.A.static.mtka.securence.com [216.17.63.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB4A8FC0A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 08:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 6.196.100.25.in-addr.arpa (mb70436d0.tmodns.net [208.54.4.183]) (user=osp@aloha.com mech=PLAIN) by smtpauth.pixi.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p828mxQa004651; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:49:02 -1000 (HST) References: <1314625136.1663.14.camel@slate01> <1314690222088-015-00158650.osp.aloha.com@usi-mail08-mtka.usinternet.com> <1314873375135-017-00487746.osp.aloha.com@usi-mail08-mtka.usinternet.com> User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Open Slate Project Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 22:48:48 -1000 To: Warren Block Message-ID: <2b92bd20-046a-407b-89ea-0e1b7785a371@email.android.com> X-Securence-ID: 1314953345736-020-00186974 X-Securence-Info: d232; 0orl0; 1otrp0; 38opp10; 63osrb6; 38ous175; 80oavs0; 42ovxr0; 59oclm100; 100ocom0; 99obsp0; 1ovrc0; 44ophc0; 56isd0; 99dds0; 99domsplt0; 100vac0; 47dogp0; 55med0; 43fsqd0; 95fsdd0; 61dod0; 0dds0; 68domsplt0; 35vac0; 96dogp0; 4med1; 95fsqd1; 21fsdd0; 82dod1; 58cld0; 5lrd0; 6dlv0; dmqq50; s345; t347 X-Securence-Latseq: <20-1314953349184> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Tablet Digitizer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:49:10 -0000 Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Gary Dunn wrote: > On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 12:55 -0600, Warren Block wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Gary Dunn wrote: >> >>> I have studied that and the source to what seems to be a driver, >>> "fujitsu-usb-touchscreen." >> >> This may be what you already have: >> http://spareinfo.blogspot.com/2010/10/linux-on-fujitsu-u810-p1620-t1010.html >> >> Whether it's trustworthy, compiles on FreeBSD, or works with xorg 7.5, >> don't know. > > Yes, that is on the Ubuntu side, but I cannot make any sense of it on > the FreeBSD side. > > I compared my Ubuntu Xorg.0.log with my FreeBSD Xorg.0.log. Quite > different. Here is an interesting bit. Starting at an identical line, > Ubuntu finds "Fujitsu Component USB Touch Panel" just before the > keyboard, while FreeBSD goes straight to the keyboard. Is this > significant? Well, it's Linux's evdev, which is roughly similar to devd(8). Likely that can be ignored on FreeBSD by just using another InputDevice section. Beyond that, it might require input from the freebsd-x11 list and possibly also the freebsd-usb list. If the components are there, it may be as simple as an x11-drivers/xf86-input-fujitsu-usb-touchscreen port. Maybe one of the existing drivers there is for a relatively similar USB touchscreen? Great tip. I had no idea those drivers were there. I will check them and if I need more help I'll ask one of the groups you mentioned. Thanks again! -- Gary Dunn, Honolulu Open Slate Project http://openslate.org http://www.facebook.com/openslate Twitter @openslateproj Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 10:33:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B4C106564A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2B38FC0A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QzQod-0001da-SY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 03:17:39 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 03:17:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1314958659878-4761835.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1314958276267-4761824.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1314662420.1588.5.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> <1314932611.1771.11.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> <1314958276267-4761824.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: wlan setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:33:12 -0000 - launch dhclient manually -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/wlan-setup-tp4748233p4761835.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 10:33:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9CF106566B for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F758FC16 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QzQiS-00017H-8q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 03:11:16 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 03:11:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1314958276267-4761824.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1314932611.1771.11.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> References: <1314662420.1588.5.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> <1314932611.1771.11.camel@toshiba-ubuntu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: wlan setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:33:34 -0000 - FreeBSD 9 has latest wpa_supplicant. - Try upgrading router's firmware. - Try detailing wpa_supplicant.conf more. eg. proto= pairwise= group= regards, - Jakub Lach -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/wlan-setup-tp4748233p4761824.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 10:42:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE3D1065670 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:42:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7028FC18 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (a80-101-78-208.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p82AgN0w070526 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:42:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [IPv6:::1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p82AgNJU004342; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:42:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:42:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen To: =?KOI8-R?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= In-Reply-To: <638737527.20110902093153@yandex.ru> Message-ID: References: <4E5E8A93.1010006@sentex.net> <123778406.20110901225021@yandex.ru> <638737527.20110902093153@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="394277907-846441665-1314960143=:3027" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mike Tancsa Subject: Re[3]: vpn using pptpclient in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:42:56 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --394277907-846441665-1314960143=:3027 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Fri, 2 Sep 2011, the wise =CA=EE=ED=FC=EA=EE=E2 =C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9 wr= ote: >> set iface route 130.115.0.0/16 > you say that behind tunnele thereis 130.115.0.0/16 subnet, but > MB> [B1] 130.115.85.11 -> 130.115.3.35 > you have address from subnet 130.115.0.0/16 addres on local machine > so you get this message: > MB> Loop detected on ng0 > > add routes only for subnets that on the other end of tunnel and not > local >>> set iface route 130.115.0.0/16 > > also you may remove 'iface route' from config. and setup tunnel. > after that try to ping the other end: ping 130.115.3.35 > add route by hand: > # route add XXXXXXXX/X 130.115.3.35 > # route add YYYYYYYY/Y 130.115.3.35 My local machine has ip 192.168.x.x. IP 130.115.x.x is the university=20 network I want to connect to. When setting the "iface route" to=20 192.168.0.0/16, the connection doesn't work either: =2E.. [B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened [B1] IPCP: LayerUp [B1] 130.115.77.2 -> 130.115.3.34 [B1] IFACE: Add route 192.168.1.0/24 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists [B1] IFACE: Up event =2E.. With the "iface route" removed, the other end 130.115.3.34 is not=20 pingable, so there is no connection in this case. Marco --=20 Don't try to have the last word -- you might get it. =09=09-- Lazarus Long --394277907-846441665-1314960143=:3027-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 10:58:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310221065670 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF9C8FC08 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QzRRh-0003Cg-4v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 12:58:01 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 12:58:01 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 12:58:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 12:57:49 +0200 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101102 Thunderbird/3.1.6 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Subject: Re: ZFSv28+NFSv4 poor file creation performance, "sync=disabled" has no effect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:58:03 -0000 On 31/08/2011 23:45, David Brodbeck wrote: > I'm testing FreeBSD 9.0-BETA with an eye toward eventually using > FreeBSD 9.0 to replace some existing OpenSolaris 2008.11 > installations. I've found NFS file creation performance (as measured > by Bonnie++) is equally slow for both with default settings. However, > on OpenSolaris I disable the ZIL to improve file creation performance. > This tuning parameter was removed from FreeBSD 9.0; its replacement > is supposed to be the per-filesystem flag "sync", but setting this > flag seems to have no effect. > > I did recompile the FreeBSD kernel without debugging features before > doing the tests, so I don't think this is a case of debugging code > slowing things down. > > Here's the relevant data; these are all from bonnie++'s "sequential > create" benchmark. > > OpenSolaris 2008.11, default settings: 58/second > OpenSolaris 2008.11, with "zil_disable=1": 1258/second > > FreeBSD 9.0-BETA, default settings: 107/second > FreeBSD 9.0-BETA, with "sync=disabled": 106/second > > > It appears the "sync" ZFS parameter has no effect in FreeBSD. Has > anyone else seen this? Is there a way to improve NFS file creation > performance now that zil_disable has been removed? Please report this to the freebsd-fs mailing list! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 11:09:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8434C106564A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3A78FC0C for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-14-151.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.14.151]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA7B3D2D1; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:09:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p82B9XNq001888; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:09:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:09:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Allen Message-Id: <20110902130933.4f18836c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4E608910.2070900@comcast.net> References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <4E3C4F7F.7020506@xaerolimit.net> <4E608910.2070900@comcast.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 11:09:35 -0000 On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 03:43:12 -0400, Allen wrote: > I don't know a lot about Gnome3, because a lot of my machines aren't > very powerful by today's standards, and if what I read on RAM > requirements was true, I won't be able to use it on any machine except > this one anyway. I can't Believe how bad Gnome has become.... All the "big ones" do "catch up" with the requirements of the "Windows" versions they want to be "on par with", in order to gain usage share. This sadly makes them unusable except you are willing to regularly dismiss working hardware and buy something new. If you're machine is not "very powerful", you should look at window managers primarily - those that manage windows _and nothing more_. All additional functionality can be provided by other programs that you can compose a desktop of, excatly as you like it. For example, if you want a Mac OS X like application launcher and dock, there's a separate program for it. If you want icons on the desktop, there's also a program for it. Need an international clock? Get the one you like. Just to have an impression, have a look at VirtualBSD: http://www.virtualbsd.info/ You can see some screenshots here: http://www.virtualbsd.info/screenshots/ This is also a "compositum" of different programs, nicely arranged for for a unit that is much more efficient than the "one huge size fits all" attitude that seems to be the driving force behind KDE, Gnome, and maybe even Xfce. > And KDE4, > though very pretty, is another one I don't like. To _me_, KDE always was a no-go as I had to invest too much time to make it do what I need. Of course, for other users it might fit perfectly well in the default configuration. > If the people who work on Gnome are going to go > Linux only, than, f them. Gnome, and maybe also Xfce (for using the same Gtk infrastructures) will _maybe_ turn into a Linux-centered project, and maybe eventually become an own distribution. That is nothing bad per se, it just means that using future Gnome on FreeBSD will be problematic, or maybe even impossible. On theo other hand, concentrating on _one_ OS platform might give Gnome the boost that it needs for developing better speed, better integration and better functionality, but only if the Linux OS environment allows it to. > I clumped those sections together, because I'd like to reply to > basically all of it at once, so, here is MY Opinion: > > I'm a little weird when it comes to Window Managers. I always have been. > When I first started straying away from Windows, one of the things I > really liked about Linux and BSD, was that I could basically make my > desktop look however I wanted. I mean, I did use KDE quite a lot, but, I > found myself logging out and back in a lot to try a new one out. This is called _freedom_. :-) > I'm basically a user of multiple versions of Linux, and then FreeBSD and > PC-BSD (Which, really now, it's just FreeBSD with a paint job and a few > custom apps, but it's still cool lol) and I Honestly couldn't pick a > favorite Window Manager if I tried. Please do not confuse KDE with a window manager. A window manager is _part_ of KDE, which itself is a complete desktop environment. Today, KDE is even more, it's a software compilation. > I really couldn't.... I like being able to change how my Desktop looks, > and I don't like being tied down to one Window Manager. I've seen environments where some programmers did use different window managers in parallel (on two or three workstations). One of them had a dual-screen setup on one machine, running a tiling window manager where he had his coding windows on. On a machine next to it, he had something that looked like IceWM. On a third machine, he did multimedia stuff in an environment that looked like Mac OS X (but he told me it's a Linux system). The funny thing: He did move between those different paradigms without any problems. "Consistency? Hey man, I'm using over 50 different programs here, why should I want them to look the same?!" :-) > I'll be sitting > here working on something, and, then, out of on where, I'll be like > "Hmm, I feel like making this look different" and then I'll save my > work, or stop what I'm doing, log out, select a different Window > Manager, and log back in, and pick up where I left off. A side note: WindowMaker has the ability to keep your work, quit itself and launch a different window manager. This is simple because the programs that are currently running are not tied to the window manager, which is also just a program. So for example, I can click on the desktop or press the "Stop" key on my Sun keyboard, activate the WM menu, and select Session - Start IceWM or Start Blackbox. Windows lose their "management control elements", and IceWM comes up, adding its decorations. From IceWM, I can then also go back to WindowMaker. > I have ADD > pretty badly, so Unix in general has always worked well for me, as Unix > / Linux / BSD, they all seem to have that magical ability to use any > Window Manager you want, and I like that a lot. Given the _right_ window manager, window management policies, interactive access to functionalities and so on can benefit the work, as distractions are limited to the point that _you_ can define, and that fits your individual preference. "Windows" does tend to annoy users and keep them from doing their actual work. This is called "entertainment". :-) > Now, as I said before; I do like KDE, and I also like Gnome, but from > what I understand, those are "Desktop Environments" and not Window > Managers in the true sense of the word. I don't really care a whole lot > about that, as it's nit picking to me lol, but here are the others I do > Love: It's not nit picking, it's terminology. :-) > Window Maker. I LOVE Window Maker. It's nice looking, it fast, and it > has a lot of nice themes I saved, since, well, you can't seem to ever > find any of them anymore, except for that one web site where the guy has > like 10 or so of them that are like space and stuff, which I'm not into. > So, I grabbed my SUSE Linux 8.1 and 8.2 Professional DVDs, popped them > in a machine, and copied over the Window Maker themes those versions of > SUSE came with, as they are WAY nicer. So, once I did that, I opened up > the RPMs, and grabbed all the themes. So now I have them for any Linux > or BSD I use. I'd like to add that it also has _excellent_ keyboard support. You can program window manager functionalities on keys directly. For example, my Sun USB keyboard has a 2 x 5 key matrix on the right. This is used for accessing window management functionality (window roll up, foreground, background, hide from desktop) or start programs. I have _not_ found this nice functionality in the "big ones". > Window Maker in general is cool, and, it can look REALLY nice. And, it's > very simply. It also doesn't use up all your Resources which is a huge > plus as well. It's _fast_ and it stays out of your way. It can also quite easily handle focus independently from foreground / background (a concept that is not present in "Windows", but benefits work a lot). > FVWM - I'll lump FVWM, FVWM2, and FVWM-Crystal all in one here, and just > say I really like those too. I've used all of those, and also FVWM95, > but I didn't like 95 as much as the other ones. Again, these are very > fast, look cool, and use very little in resources. What I like about fvwm is that you can easily control it by a simple configuration file (here WindowMaker lacks), and you can get rid of all the stuff you don't want in a limited environment. For example, I run it on my service laptop which has a physical 800x600 display, so I intendedly don't want window borders or title bars. Keyboard and mouse actions can be configured quite easily. > I'd like to figure out one day how to configure the Themes and menus > myself, but for now, they rock either way heh. There's good documentation about that. > Enlightenment - E16 and E17.... These are some of the best looking > Window Managers I've EVER had the Pleasure of using... I can't say > enough good about Enlightenment... I LOVE Enlightenment.... The look is > simply amazing, and the Special FX, awesome. And the fact that it > somehow managed not to use up all your RAM and CPU, amazes me even more. > I totally LOVE E, and I Hope they continue making it work. It has been part of the FreeSBIE 2.0 live system CD, if I remember correctly. And next to the fact that this CD is quite helpful and good for diagnostics, it looks great. :-) > IceWM - IceWM is another one I've used countless times. I again, can't > say enough good things about it. It's fairly light on the requirements > as well, so, give that a try if you like. There are also countless > themes for it, so you can change how it looks with a few clicks. It also has a good configuration file (text based) and features a lot of functionality that you won't find in the latest "Windows". In fact, IceWM was my first window manager on FreeBSD (coming from Linux with fwvm). :-) > TWM - I know TWM is dated, but when it comes to "Light on Resources" > it's hard to beat. I don't use it a whole lot, but when I do, it's > always been very responsive, and easy to keep the memory use low. Hey, I even know people who use olvwm, and that seems to be even much more dated. :-) The fact that twm is still there shows that it didn't lose any of its functionality, and it does it job quite well. Maybe you're interested in having a look at this page: http://www.custompc.plus.com/twm/twmrc.htm Thre are some nice suggestions for customization with screenshots and configuration file examples. > I know that FreeBSD has a metric ton of Window Managers you can install > very easily, and I couldn't tlk about them all, or remember them all, > even if I tried, but I know that it's pretty simple to basically do this: > > pkg_add -r bunchOfWindowManagers moreWindowManagers > > And so on. Or at least that's how I do it normally. Binary installation is a common method of installing programs, nothing wrong here. I'm not sure if I haven't mentioned it yet, but there's also XFCE 3 (using the "old-fashioned" Gtk version 1). If you need a window manager that gives you the look & feel of CDE with its predictability, you should have a look at it. I still have a 300 MHz P2 that runs such a system, and it's still very fast and versatile, even on limited resources: office applications, multimedia, web browsing and programming are _no_ problem on that system. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 11:28:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF16106564A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thecryof@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEBF8FC15 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yib19 with SMTP id 19so2644674yib.13 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 04:28:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/Ti4i1j0IrqoyibkNWXaJY6E+WqZbt1e4QtsS4KVHR4=; b=sn5JZPE4Dw/ehuI8HwscnIigbnG3XWnkQR303NkZcqYCoRhU59DJNofKt0NmP59+5x rCYmQR8rRkZSZyQq/SSQR4eaMcPX1vgjERbQkZvoDJornk5BOhZW7pqwPjpkWdotbfKH Er9DSMR9BItpPMmKZQlwyY58daltf7bKT8flw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.77.233 with SMTP id d69mr4577299yhe.84.1314961318781; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 04:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.105.244 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 04:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:01:58 +0200 Message-ID: From: Michael M To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 11:28:21 -0000 Is it possible to mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? How would the fstab entry look? Thanks, Michael M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 11:36:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067C01065674 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:36:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EAEB8FC15 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p82BadS5082910 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:36:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p82Badx5082907; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:36:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:36:34 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Michael M In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fagskolen_i_Gj=F8vik?= OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-1752757922-1314963399=:80093" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on mail.fig.ol.no Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 11:36:48 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-1752757922-1314963399=:80093 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:01+0200, Michael M wrote: > Is it possible to mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? How would > the fstab entry look? It really depends on what you want to achieve. If it's okay that the (local) root directory of said filesystem is (co-)owned by the wheel group, then: mount /filesystem, run chgrp wheel /filesystem, and finally run chmod g+w /filesystem Maybe you should look into POSIX ACLs, etc if you are looking for something more advanced. Trond. - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestшl | Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no ACM, NAS, NUUG, SAGE, USENIX | FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE & Alpine 2.00 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5gv8cACgkQbYWZalUoElvVbgCdHpQGTE9MCypqjD9FxT9FDJQP LvEAnjd1tHBrs9AxSHN84NN3iWNYsGEf =DjyX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2055831798-1752757922-1314963399=:80093-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 11:38:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4A0106564A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EF38FC13 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-14-151.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.14.151]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046503D362; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:38:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p82BcuQm002016; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:38:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:38:56 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Michael M Message-Id: <20110902133856.3730fdd4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 11:38:58 -0000 On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:01:58 +0200, Michael M wrote: > Is it possible to mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? It is. :-) > How would > the fstab entry look? Maybe like this: # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass # --------- ------------- --------- ---------- --------- /dev/da0 /mnt ufs rw 2 2 The mount point (directory /mnt in this example) has to be +w for wheel, e. g. # chown root:wheel /mnt # chmod u=rwx,g=rwx,o=rx /mnt # mount /mnt That should be _nearly_ the default (FreeBSD/x86 8.2-STABLE here): drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 18 2011 mnt/ ^ This is where you could use # chmod g+w /mnt to allow writes for members of the wheel group. You may apply further restrictions (e. g. -rx for others) if needed), and maybe "noauto" on the options field. For mounting in general: The user issuing the mount command has to have proper access to the device file (/dev/da0 in this example) _and_ the target directory. See "man mount" and "man fstab" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 12:00:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049A8106584A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8818FC2E for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p82C2NE4084388; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 07:02:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 07:02:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201109021202.p82C2NE4084388@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, thecryof@gmail.com In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 12:00:55 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 2 06:30:22 2011 > Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:01:58 +0200 > From: Michael M > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? > > Is it possible to mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? Of course. > How would > the fstab entry look? just like any other fstab entry. It might be a good idea to explain exactly what you want to be able to do, first. When you just ask a question about the 'mechanics' of an operation with many possible interpretations, you'll get useless answers. (see above :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 14:08:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1975106566B for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thecryof@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2AA8FC08 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so2733217gxk.13 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:08:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=la1snazYh2m4N0g/YJRNos4bR6b9GL3sNI6vPffTHYM=; b=D+mL6oRh8UgBRCoOhl0wM2IzNY5qyoF+YDNPPVrk17r/1HCJ1wYUz53B7FbnrjJ/cH eYJbOEs9ExJF+bl6ypS0O1ZUoXlLaktLNhg/3sWlTOgGR2LF2xwx+6L0G4DSmIjWw0hc 17oW4gaRDD3qSAyIP+nJ7x0cvsqbaS7oYJT2s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.190.193 with SMTP id e41mr5521338yhn.118.1314972492685; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.105.244 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 07:08:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201109021202.p82C2NE4084388@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201109021202.p82C2NE4084388@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:08:08 +0200 Message-ID: From: Michael M To: Robert Bonomi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:08:13 -0000 Excuse my generic question, I should have asked: Can the group rw options for given partition destination be defined in fstab upon mount? Thanks, Michael M On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 2 06:30:22 2011 > > Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:01:58 +0200 > > From: Michael M > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? > > > > Is it possible to mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? > > Of course. > > > How > would > > the fstab entry look? > > just like any other fstab entry. > > > > It might be a good idea to explain exactly what you want to be able to do, > first. > > When you just ask a question about the 'mechanics' of an operation with > many possible interpretations, you'll get useless answers. (see above :) > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 14:31:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8941065670 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC7A8FC0C for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-14-151.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.14.151]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043DD3D492; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:31:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p82EV89X002799; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:31:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:31:08 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Michael M Message-Id: <20110902163108.be0e56b4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <201109021202.p82C2NE4084388@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:31:11 -0000 On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:08:08 +0200, Michael M wrote: > Excuse my generic question, I should have asked: > > Can the group rw options for given partition destination be defined in fstab > upon mount? No. The access rights depend on the owner:group permissions of the mountpoint directory. The _act_ of mounting depends on the mounter's ownership of the corresponding device files. So in order to to only allow wheel group members to access a certain mount point for ug=rwx, the permissions of that mount point have to be set. This is done independently from what /etc/fstab is for (which controls the _act_ of mounting if all requirements - as mentioned above - are met). However, there _are_ options that can be included in fstab for applying a certain mask to files contained in a mounted directory, see -m and -M in "man mount_msdosfs" for example. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 15:40:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71423106566C for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thecryof@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F37F8FC0A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yib19 with SMTP id 19so2862277yib.13 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:40:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dMblK1IKBUm1vbwrJAq1jg9e6lii+OJEGdMUQ5y9Juk=; b=lXZZeDWRbJ2uzdtl+5mJnY6Tab2/N9m1fYftUBLtxEGiKyFsJqwPwB9ad+cHVyZt5P 4PDyUZ/AB2UgnfXL3KjGgR9OXhmYENnK2pVtM0a884IywzjnzFK9WiOV/gaxOQcrIFon FIRhzGXQJcyrt5JF+fYGLktMIgs+K3z4pOA6k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.185.138 with SMTP id u10mr6314735yhm.67.1314978041548; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.105.244 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 08:40:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110902163108.be0e56b4.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <201109021202.p82C2NE4084388@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20110902163108.be0e56b4.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 17:40:41 +0200 Message-ID: From: Michael M To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount a ufs partition writable by group wheel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:40:42 -0000 On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:08:08 +0200, Michael M wrote: > > Excuse my generic question, I should have asked: > > > > Can the group rw options for given partition destination be defined in > fstab > > upon mount? > > No. The access rights depend on the owner:group permissions > of the mountpoint directory. The _act_ of mounting depends > on the mounter's ownership of the corresponding device files. > > So in order to to only allow wheel group members to access > a certain mount point for ug=rwx, the permissions of that > mount point have to be set. This is done independently from > what /etc/fstab is for (which controls the _act_ of mounting > if all requirements - as mentioned above - are met). > > However, there _are_ options that can be included in fstab > for applying a certain mask to files contained in a mounted > directory, see -m and -M in "man mount_msdosfs" for example. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > Thanks for the info :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 20:33:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED35106564A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168188FC0A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadx2 with SMTP id x2so4571965iad.13 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 13:33:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.27.233 with SMTP id j41mr2621608ibc.77.1314995602832; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 13:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.33.10 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:33:22 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3GMSCruFjfpyluay8XwjEn5OFm8 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:33:27 -0000 Hi, Anybody know the editorial/publisher of the psSense book? Thanks, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 20:46:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6122B106564A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB8E8FC08 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QzadF-0006PQ-Ke for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:46:34 +0200 Received: from static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl ([78.8.147.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:46:33 +0200 Received: from mwisnicki+freebsd by static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:46:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marcin Wisnicki Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <201108311826.p7VIQRCY068730@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4e5f24c3.agV2UHzbjHEXght8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <87vctc6hvp.fsf@oak.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl User-Agent: Pan/0.134 (Wait for Me; Unknown) Subject: Re: Is there way to get filename for specific LBA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:46:35 -0000 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:50:18 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote: > > It looks like the best bet would be fsdb, assuming that it is a UFS file > system. That does have a 'findblk' command to find a file containing a > block, but you would need to calculate the block offset in the > filesystem first. It doesn't look like it would be easy, as was said > earlier. I have a ruby script for this that wraps various commands. You pipe an error log to it and it finds files: blocks2file.rb < /var/log/messages Currently, it looks only for geom errors (with byte offsets) but that can be easily adjusted. It helped me find the source of my problems in the past but I haven't worked on it since. Here it is: https://github.com/mwisnicki/freebsd-block2file From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 20:56:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77ABF1065674 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF168FC1F for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so3064469gxk.13 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 13:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.213.9 with SMTP id l9mr1194768agg.182.1314996999408; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 13:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-105-057.nc.res.rr.com [76.182.105.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c13sm283173anm.6.2011.09.02.13.56.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Sep 2011 13:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RrCRn0YQFz2CG4t for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:56:36 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110902165636.64533247@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:56:40 -0000 On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:33:22 -0400 Alejandro Imass articulated: > Hi, > > Anybody know the editorial/publisher of the psSense book? Which one? Perhaps you might want to start here: BTW, your "sig delimiter" is not followed by a "space" effectively making it useless. -- Jerry вњЊ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 21:05:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E17106566B for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-defer02.adhost.com (mail-defer02.adhost.com [216.211.128.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669908FC0C for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in01.adhost.com (mail-in01.adhost.com [10.212.3.11]) by mail-defer02.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE9C4DF009 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:45:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from AD-EXH02.adhost.lan (unknown [10.142.0.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail-in01.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E07EA2D74D6; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:45:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from AD-EXH02.adhost.lan ([fe80::1c5b:7ead:8ba3:6108]) by AD-EXH02.adhost.lan ([fe80::1c5b:7ead:8ba3:6108%11]) with mapi id 14.01.0255.000; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:45:42 -0700 From: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" To: Alejandro Imass , FreeBSD Questions Thread-Topic: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher Thread-Index: AQHMaa+vDfSe89UPLE6PruzCUzKSxZU6jsTA Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:45:42 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.142.1.52] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: RE: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:05:32 -0000 Hi Alejandro: I'm not aware of a pfSense book, but if you want a book on PF, there is: The OpenBSD PF Packet Filter Book Editor: Jeremy C. Reed Publisher: Reed Media Services ISBN: 978-0-9790342-0-6 Regards, Mike -- Michael K. Smith - CISSP, GSEC, GISP Chief Technical Officer - Adhost Internet LLC mksmith@adhost.com w: +1 (206) 404-9500 f: +1 (206) 404-9050 PGP: B49A DDF5 8611 27F3 08B9 84BB E61E 38C0 (Key ID: 0x9A96777D) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alejandro Imass > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:33 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Anybody know the editorial/publisher of the psSense book? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > -- > Alejandro Imass > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 21:19:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42BD106564A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlmichael70@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475FA8FC12 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi36 with SMTP id 36so3414038wwi.31 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:19:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4g+0JsbRHCFKrNajYeAEz0PqSmHOEfFLafTKzoBQTYo=; b=c+FrkPZeBi7NGH4U78ef5CoAPo7GYd1JKFglnL7Nh2eXj8pBvG0PwSGDWN9C0Oflbo uCeTqLzsh3iMX6EivDb6IuX55YgZoWZOk5vHP/5ZFbLtNVxiqPalBzqRd82s2tCqdX+G bKSe5ZwICFFoR7FK5sjyeDYi9AkhzbjIt5ViA= Received: by 10.216.220.168 with SMTP id o40mr1406047wep.75.1314998349252; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prime.nonspace (92.40.254.62.threembb.co.uk [92.40.254.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ex16sm296468wbb.4.2011.09.02.14.19.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E61484F.3050101@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:19:11 +0100 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110901 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <4E5D28E0.5050700@gmail.com> <4E5D2C42.4020603@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <4E5D2C42.4020603@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: random generated password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:19:10 -0000 On 30/08/2011 19:30, Mike Tancsa wrote: >> >> Preferably in a non-interactive and scriptable way. Is it possible with >> the base system tools? > > 0(ich10)# pw usermod testuser1 -w random > Password for 'testuser1' is: km.y0LScI3p1 > 0(ich10)# pw usermod testuser1 -w random > Password for 'testuser1' is: P5RrhmUl4Np2 > 0(ich10)# > Perfect, exactly what I was looking for, thank you. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 21:33:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD22106564A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635108FC0A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadx2 with SMTP id x2so4633463iad.13 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:33:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.74.13 with SMTP id s13mr2716802ibj.78.1314999220643; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.33.10 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:33:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110902165636.64533247@scorpio> References: <20110902165636.64533247@scorpio> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 17:33:40 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JondiZ2y7cKTKTFbjs_NRV4ATHU Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:33:41 -0000 On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:33:22 -0400 > Alejandro Imass articulated: > >> Hi, >> >> Anybody know the editorial/publisher of the psSense book? > > Which one? Perhaps you might want to start here: > > > Thanks. I knew it was published in Amazon but I want to purchase another format other than Kindle because I use B&N's nook. I want to locate the publisher to see if they have other formats like ePub or PDF. > BTW, your "sig delimiter" is not followed by a "space" effectively > making it useless. > Thanks, let's see if it works now: -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 22:01:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445A7106564A for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc4-s15.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s15.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC3C8FC12 for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY165-DS19 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s15.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 2 Sep 2011 14:49:22 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [67.166.188.223] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Sean Cavanaugh To: "'Alejandro Imass'" , "'FreeBSD Questions'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 17:47:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQHr8tJhFiZzQpU9guB/OEzxY5GfYZT7jfMg Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2011 21:49:22.0188 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CB64CC0:01CC69BA] Cc: Subject: RE: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:01:22 -0000 I think you would have a better response asking that question on the pfsense mailing list as the author hangs out on it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alejandro Imass Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 4:33 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher Hi, Anybody know the editorial/publisher of the psSense book? Thanks, -- Alejandro Imass _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 2 23:02:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF80A106566B for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 23:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@midsummerdream.org) Received: from smtpauth02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 739678FC0C for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 23:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12810 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2011 22:35:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (75.57.134.51) by smtpauth02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.182) with ESMTP; 02 Sep 2011 22:35:28 -0000 Message-ID: <4E615A2F.9080407@midsummerdream.org> Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:35:27 -0500 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: AMD 850/950 support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lists@midsummerdream.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 23:02:09 -0000 Anyone know if FreeBSD 8.2 supports the AMD 850 and/or 950 southbridge? I've been looking on the web without much luck (unusual) and the hardware docs for the release for the ata driver only mentions 5 amd chipsets. Is there perhaps a different chipset I should be looking for to determine ata support for those southbridges? Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 08:09:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4291065670 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 08:09:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vkushnir@bigmir.net) Received: from ex.volia.net (ex.volia.net [82.144.192.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B5D8FC0C for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 08:09:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from em.volia.net ([82.144.192.9]) by ex.volia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1QzkvM-000M6Q-JW; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:45:56 +0300 Received: from enough.saddler.volia.net ([93.72.207.82] helo=kushnir1.kiev.ua) by em.volia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1QzkvM-0001V9-Gh; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:45:56 +0300 Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by kushnir1.kiev.ua (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p837kxEF062922; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:46:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from vkushnir@bigmir.net) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:46:59 +0300 (EEST) From: Vladimir Kushnir X-X-Sender: vkushnir@kushnir1.kiev.ua To: Rob In-Reply-To: <4E615A2F.9080407@midsummerdream.org> Message-ID: References: <4E615A2F.9080407@midsummerdream.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Volia-Original-IP: 93.72.207.82 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD 850/950 support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 08:09:43 -0000 Hi Rob On Fri, 2 Sep 2011, Rob wrote: > Anyone know if FreeBSD 8.2 supports the AMD 850 and/or 950 southbridge? I've > been looking on the web without much luck (unusual) and the hardware docs for > the release for the ata driver only mentions 5 amd chipsets. Is there > perhaps a different chipset I should be looking for to determine ata support > for those southbridges? > > Rob Not sure about 8.x. As far as I'm concerned SB850 seems to be supported fairly well under -CURRENT. My present setup: Phenom II 970; AsRock 890GX Extreme4 (it's AMD 890GX/SB850, SATA-3, USB3 etc.); SATA-3 HDD (Hitachi); FreeBSD amd64-CURRENT updated some every 2-3 weeks since the last May. So far everything seems to work properly. WBR, Vladimir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 09:00:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB95E1065675 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0CC8FC0A for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qzm5L-0007gi-C1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 02:00:19 -0700 Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 02:00:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1315040419366-4765099.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <20110820162245.166e8a05@scorpio> References: <86wre8inmi.fsf@gmail.com> <20110820162245.166e8a05@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:00:26 -0000 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why Sorry, it's looks roughly applicable here. I'm guilty too, but I don't want/use binary upgrades. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/A-quality-operating-system-tp4717703p4765099.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 09:17:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB970106566B for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unix.hacker@comcast.net) Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9CC8FC14 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id U9HZ1h0020mv7h05E9HZeg; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:17:33 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([68.61.31.42]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id U9HW1h0080uXiss3X9HY1E; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:17:33 +0000 Message-ID: <4E61F0BF.9030403@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 05:17:51 -0400 From: Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86wre8inmi.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:17:34 -0000 Maybe I can play Diplomat here, considering that I use both BSD and Linux and Windows, and I won't pretend to care about any of your feelings and just be Honest: On 8/20/2011 2:09 PM, Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Dave Pooser > wrote: > >> 3) Updates are a mess. It's cool that I *can* compile a new kernel, but >> that I *have* to is ridiculous. Updating a server should not be more >> difficult than "yum update" -- full stop. > > Are you lazy, or stupid? man freebsd-update OK, I too use freebsd-update to update my base system, but, other than the port manager tools, I've PERSONALLY watched "portupgrade -aF" basically break a system. I saw one person say "Well you can't upgrade one version of Red Hat to another" but really, who here actually cares about Red Hat? I came from SUSE and Slackware, both of which have had very well thought out upgrades for a while. (Slackware didn't for a while, but apparently slackpkg does this now) but SUSE was always easy to upgrade. I think one thing I can personally agree with when it comes to what was said, is the whole thing about patching; Why isn't there yet a tool that will simply grab ALL security patches? I mean Debian can do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and then grab everything from the Kernel's patches to xmms patches, install them, and I'm done. Try that on any version of BSD before PC-BSD came around. I get that a lot of BSD people are programmers and like looking at source code, but personally, not being a coder, I don't CARE what flags something uses.... I think if FreeBSD had an all purpose patching tool, it would be a lot better. I mean sure, you use freebsd-update and it updates the base system, but anything you use on the machine is usually a port of some sort, and doing those.... When I first started using FreeBSD, I was looking at how to install patches for security, and I was like WTF I have to do what? I'm not quite sure why no one has ever made a tool that grabs all security patches and installs them for you, but they should. It would be REALLY nice if FreeBSD had freebsd-update that worked on ports too, because the process of updating those, it IS a little much. I've been using FreeBSD since 4.0 and to be 100% Honest, I've never once managed to actually upgrade a system. And that's while sitting with the FreeBSD.org Docs sitting open on another machine going down the list of what I was supposed to do. It was time consuming, and compiling things.... Again, not a programmer. The guy who said updating should be no more than "yum update" had a point. I get why ports are separated and all that, but why not compromise and have a way to install security patches on both at the same time? I recently installed PC-BSD on my Laptop, and the fact that it grabs patches for me and installs them, more than proves it could be added over to FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 09:59:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06F1106566C for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:59:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411268FC19 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p839xBjq007799 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:59:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p839xBjq007799 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1315043957; bh=kFgykxfPC25DH0NrRP8C5bQCduUAOdF9GuN1a+FWKWk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E61FA68.1050808@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S at,=2003=20Sep=202011=2010:59:04=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.1)=20Gecko/2 0110830=20Thunderbird/6.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Allen=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject: =20Re:=20A=20quality=20operating=20system|References:=20<86wre8inm i.fsf@gmail.com>=20=20 =20<4E61F0BF.9030403@comcast.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<4E61F0BF.9030403 @comcast.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C |Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A= 20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"-- ----------enigE632C5D181CCA0C48428852E"; b=Bq5LFdarC8AZmlNVDJAliEvwPJvwwOV6r2zTyiVl/Nc1QvvgluTCT1TIV10BnYl1H 5yXRCBO2tHpoKXyq2CCzklCDuUxGeh5dd2RZC+izyoNqnVME18Snb4/lZekjUIN1MJ wqmoN49MJTtkXxkjY9qOR4XltpCj2ZsxkjYLdJNc= Message-ID: <4E61FA68.1050808@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:59:04 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allen References: <86wre8inmi.fsf@gmail.com> <4E61F0BF.9030403@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4E61F0BF.9030403@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE632C5D181CCA0C48428852E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:59:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE632C5D181CCA0C48428852E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/09/2011 10:17, Allen wrote: > Try that on any version of BSD before PC-BSD came around. I get that a > lot of BSD people are programmers and like looking at source code, but > personally, not being a coder, I don't CARE what flags something uses..= =2E. However, I, as a systems administrator that has to herd a bunch of servers and get maximum performance out of them care very much indeed exactly what flags and so forth are used to compile software. Even in these days of multi-gigabyte RAM and terabyte disk, keeping application memory usage as slim as possible and stripping out pointless processes is important for good performance. I saw a comment once on -- I think is was the BIND mailing list -- where an admin said that anyone using software to provide a commercial service really should be compiling it themselves, rather than using the default packages that come with their OS precisely because it gives you this control. What struck me was that he clearly wasn't a FreeBSD user. With the FreeBSD ports you can tune everything to your requirements, and still benefit from the advantages of using the OSes package management system. Linux distros that tout themselves as Server OSes I find frustrating. Really they pretty much all come out of the box setup for desktop use. Who cares about wireless networking on a server that's going to be wired into a rack for its entire life? Or automounting removable media? Or GUIs? Stripping out the pointless fluff and turning off all the software that defaults to on really does negate the convenience of their packaging. > I think if FreeBSD had an all purpose patching tool, it would be a lot > better. I mean sure, you use freebsd-update and it updates the base > system, but anything you use on the machine is usually a port of some > sort, and doing those.... When I first started using FreeBSD, I was > looking at how to install patches for security, and I was like WTF I > have to do what? I'm not quite sure why no one has ever made a tool tha= t > grabs all security patches and installs them for you, but they should. >=20 > It would be REALLY nice if FreeBSD had freebsd-update that worked on > ports too, because the process of updating those, it IS a little much. > I've been using FreeBSD since 4.0 and to be 100% Honest, I've never onc= e > managed to actually upgrade a system. And that's while sitting with the= > FreeBSD.org Docs sitting open on another machine going down the list of= > what I was supposed to do. It was time consuming, and compiling > things.... Again, not a programmer. Yeah. Ports and base being distinct is a big deal in FreeBSD-land. But you are right to the extent that it would be useful to be able to use much the same tools to manage both. There's been fairly regular mutterings over the years about making the base system install something like pkgs, but nothing has ever come of it. There's also an interesting thread over on the freebsd-ports@ mailing list about going in almost completely the other direction -- making a software packaging system that is OS agnostic, so (for instance) all of *BSD could effectively use the same "ports" tree. Oh, and have much better capabilities for dealing with binary packages, and are which in which FreeBSD is really quite weak. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE632C5D181CCA0C48428852E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5h+m8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIy53wCfbxCTvvYToaKeLhTzoL3zKbwy HL0AniXulR1LToUkRic5V9+Vz/SFA70V =t+yK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE632C5D181CCA0C48428852E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 11:13:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE15106566B for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4CD8FC19 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBEA6B.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.234.107]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p83BD3QP020926; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:13:04 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p83BCtYo068291; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:12:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p83BChTd016249; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:12:49 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201109031112.p83BChTd016249@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Allen From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 03 Sep 2011 05:17:51 EDT." <4E61F0BF.9030403@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 13:12:43 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:13:11 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Allen > Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 05:17:51 -0400 > Message-id: <4E61F0BF.9030403@comcast.net> Allen wrote: > Maybe I can play Diplomat here, considering that I use both BSD and ..................^^^^^^^^^ > Linux and Windows, and I won't pretend to care about any of your .....................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > feelings and just be Honest: ^^^^^^^^^^^ Point of order: Inconsistent statement at beginning. Find a dictionary & look up what a diplomat is ! I stopped reading. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17th Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ Oct. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 13:38:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960A6106566C for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDC08FC13 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p83DDvqk062386; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:13:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4E622815.4030807@qeng-ho.org> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:13:57 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Imass References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: [OT] pfSense Book Publisher X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 13:38:21 -0000 On 09/02/11 21:33, Alejandro Imass wrote: > Anybody know the editorial/publisher of the psSense book? Presuming you mean "pfSense: the Definitive Guide ...", from the front page of my copy: Publisher: Reed Media Services Editor: Jeremy C. Reed Web site: www.reedmedia.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 16:39:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0458B106566C for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C84A8FC0A for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25689 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:39:47 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201109031639.KAA25689@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:39:44 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: "at" command and mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:39:50 -0000 I'm setting up a FreeBSD appliance that won't be running a mail daemon. I'd like the at(8) command to be there for scheduling of commands, but do not see any way to prevent it from trying to send mail after it executes a command. (There's not even a command line option that says "do not mail," or at least I can't find one.) Am I missing something, or does at(8) always expect to be able to send mail? If so, would it be worth implementing an atrun.conf configuration file that makes it optional and possibly sets other defaults for at(8)? --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 16:55:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034FD1065670 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D828FC12 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe4 with SMTP id 4so3252264fxe.13 for ; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:55:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0hKH3SgSjHO88/NH09YYHYdvGcMVC7BJNl2zUaSG7Xc=; b=uiowCqh4rYwKIfLo5z4Mqt/YCcTK4RRmIYuPJd1QbbRoqkpRRtdtxbiZc0PzTL9Oky tRNKwtvJaX/iQ6L4wYvZzsyy75m4No7KPxrGhRBZUMlkNMIsgRRmcV9R0NvXVElJeDIH rB13MTZ65xA382r+HyWtPpv2+4SrFOZrRYfkw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.39.216 with SMTP id h24mr2515878fae.31.1315068906240; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.120.72 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:55:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201109031639.KAA25689@lariat.net> References: <201109031639.KAA25689@lariat.net> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:55:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Brett Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "at" command and mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:55:08 -0000 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Brett Glass wrote: > I'm setting up a FreeBSD appliance that won't be running a mail daemon. I'd > like the at(8) command to be there for scheduling of commands, but do not > see any way to prevent it from trying to send mail after it executes a > command. (There's not even a command line option that says "do not mail," or > at least I can't find one.) Am I missing something, or does at(8) always > expect to be able to send mail? If so, would it be worth implementing an > atrun.conf configuration file that makes it optional and possibly sets other > defaults for at(8)? > If you redirect the output from the command to /dev/null or other file, you shouldn't recieve an email unless you've also specified -m. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 18:07:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B760106566C for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89DF8FC0A for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26269; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:06:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201109031806.MAA26269@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 12:06:56 -0600 To: Adam Vande More From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: References: <201109031639.KAA25689@lariat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "at" command and mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:07:04 -0000 At 10:55 AM 9/3/2011, Adam Vande More wrote: >If you redirect the output from the command to /dev/null or other >file, you shouldn't recieve an email unless you've also specified -m. True. But that's awkward, and if you have a job that runs more than once, it'd be convenient to be able to keep the output from each run. I'd like to see a configuration option to send the output from each "at" job to a file in a directory -- one per job, automatically named -- rather than sending it out as e-mail. Or just not to keep it at all. (This could still be overridden with -m, of course.) In short, I'm looking for the sort of flexibility that's already built into periodic.conf, which allows you to specify whether output is mailed, sent to a file, or sent to /dev/null by default. This would be useful for lots of applications, and especially for embedded work. --Brett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 18:14:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCEC9106564A for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:14:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward7.mail.yandex.net (forward7.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489BC8FC13 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp9.mail.yandex.net (smtp9.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.35]) by forward7.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id AB74C1C1921; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:14:20 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1315073660; bh=e+bT2XT/otCTsoy2fgUHiXQo9Y0sS4xIzPYhm+FvRvg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=m92YiFddwMwkn9rajkhJFWlVbh95wJ6bL6MQVDvC99ERpTCR601ztc64/7eqzKjIz JC2E4gsq+2RW5WGrMddGFjgdb0eomIe+mA0sJ7KTcLJ7b0oYkH+Y0v/X2I+qO8ebdT rLAspcSKWxgCmF9WeyEwnJz8XcwGGaH9QMvy7Weo= Received: from smtp9.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp9.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 8A3BD1520263; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:14:20 +0400 (MSD) Received: from 46-185-28-188-mltp.broadband.kyivstar.net (46-185-28-188-mltp.broadband.kyivstar.net [46.185.28.188]) by smtp9.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id EK0Sgd7h; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:14:20 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:14:16 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <523859952.20110903211416@yandex.ru> To: Marco Beishuizen In-Reply-To: References: <4E5E8A93.1010006@sentex.net> <123778406.20110901225021@yandex.ru> <638737527.20110902093153@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mike Tancsa Subject: Re[4]: vpn using pptpclient in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:14:22 -0000 Здравствуйте, Marco. Вы писали 2 сентября 2011 г., 13:42:23: MB> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011, the wise Коньков Евгений wrote: >>> set iface route 130.115.0.0/16 >> you say that behind tunnele thereis 130.115.0.0/16 subnet, but >> MB> [B1] 130.115.85.11 -> 130.115.3.35 >> you have address from subnet 130.115.0.0/16 addres on local machine >> so you get this message: >> MB> Loop detected on ng0 >> >> add routes only for subnets that on the other end of tunnel and not >> local >>>> set iface route 130.115.0.0/16 >> >> also you may remove 'iface route' from config. and setup tunnel. >> after that try to ping the other end: ping 130.115.3.35 >> add route by hand: >> # route add XXXXXXXX/X 130.115.3.35 >> # route add YYYYYYYY/Y 130.115.3.35 MB> My local machine has ip 192.168.x.x. IP 130.115.x.x is the university MB> network I want to connect to. When setting the "iface route" to MB> 192.168.0.0/16, the connection doesn't work either: MB> ... MB> [B1] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened MB> [B1] IPCP: LayerUp MB> [B1] 130.115.77.2 -> 130.115.3.34 MB> [B1] IFACE: Add route 192.168.1.0/24 130.115.3.34 failed: File exists MB> [B1] IFACE: Up event MB> ... MB> With the "iface route" removed, the other end 130.115.3.34 is not MB> pingable, so there is no connection in this case. MB> Marco Please describe your networks fully also I ask to send output of: ifconfig netstat -nr -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 18:15:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2021065670 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:15:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94848FC0C for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe4 with SMTP id 4so3294528fxe.13 for ; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:15:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JyNlaSKzKmBzUIYg0OajInUOFjoY/aLi9nZGqolYryQ=; b=NAf7Y43YWh3yPbH5t0FUi2mgpFLt2HgRCjCTSTNrohmIzAZDqy6hT8dr19BB99P5ol 7ngr+7PcG4KHzYqxquxK58eZmVr/eXnelAUfaIDyYKocpQvznVkXt2AY90p7N5NGAHdU wCxuTuwQ2s8xXnBHH+HJEicRAV5hkTpi7YEOg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.16.205 with SMTP id p13mr2383293faa.69.1315073730605; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.120.72 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:15:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201109031806.MAA26269@lariat.net> References: <201109031639.KAA25689@lariat.net> <201109031806.MAA26269@lariat.net> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:15:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Brett Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "at" command and mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:15:32 -0000 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Brett Glass wrote: > If you redirect the output from the command to /dev/null or other file, you > shouldn't recieve an email unless you've also specified -m. > > True. But that's awkward, and if you have a job that runs more than once, > it'd be convenient to be able to keep the output from each run. > That's easy, just put a timestamp in the filename: echo foo > `date +\%Y\%m\%d`.txt -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 18:56:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE818106564A for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5976D8FC0A for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (a80-101-78-208.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p83ItbNE032722 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:55:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [IPv6:::1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p83Itbjc082362; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:55:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:55:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen To: =?KOI8-R?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= In-Reply-To: <523859952.20110903211416@yandex.ru> Message-ID: References: <4E5E8A93.1010006@sentex.net> <123778406.20110901225021@yandex.ru> <638737527.20110902093153@yandex.ru> <523859952.20110903211416@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="394277907-1152482849-1315076137=:3032" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mike Tancsa Subject: Re[4]: vpn using pptpclient in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:56:10 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --394277907-1152482849-1315076137=:3032 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sat, 3 Sep 2011, the wise =CA=EE=ED=FC=EA=EE=E2 =C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9 wr= ote: > Please describe your networks fully > > also I ask to send output of: > ifconfig > netstat -nr My computer has IP 192.168.1.11, and sits behind a ADSL router which has=20 IP 192.168.1.1, the router is the gateway to the internet. IP adresses are= =20 assigned by DHCP. The vpn network of the university I would like to=20 connect to has the adress vpn-eur-pptp.eur.nl. The IP range of the=20 university is 130.115.x.x. My ifconfig and netstat when mpd5 is not running: em0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3D209b ether 00:0e:0c:3d:e1:6d inet6 fe80::20e:cff:fe3d:e16d%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 192.168.1.11 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 nd6 options=3D3 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active fwe0: flags=3D8802 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3D8 ether 02:02:3c:06:08:57 ch 1 dma -1 fwip0: flags=3D8802 metric 0 mtu 1500 lladdr 0.2.3c.1.1.6.8.57.a.2.ff.fe.0.0.0.0 lo0: flags=3D8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=3D3 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7 nd6 options=3D3 Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 59590 em0 127.0.0.1 link#7 UH 0 354 lo0 192.168.1.0/24 link#4 U 0 92 em0 192.168.1.11 link#4 UHS 0 0 lo0 My ifconfig and netstat when mpd5 is running: em0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3D209b ether 00:0e:0c:3d:e1:6d inet6 fe80::20e:cff:fe3d:e16d%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 192.168.1.11 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 nd6 options=3D3 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active fwe0: flags=3D8802 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3D8 ether 02:02:3c:06:08:57 ch 1 dma -1 fwip0: flags=3D8802 metric 0 mtu 1500 lladdr 0.2.3c.1.1.6.8.57.a.2.ff.fe.0.0.0.0 lo0: flags=3D8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=3D3 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7 nd6 options=3D3 ng0: flags=3D88d1 metric 0= =20 mtu 1456 inet 130.115.77.12 --> 130.115.3.34 netmask 0xffffffff inet6 fe80::20e:cff:fe3d:e16d%ng0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8 nd6 options=3D3 Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 59807 em0 127.0.0.1 link#7 UH 0 354 lo0 130.115.0.0/16 130.115.3.34 UGS 0 0 ng0 130.115.3.34 link#8 UH 0 4 ng0 130.115.77.12 link#8 UHS 0 0 lo0 192.168.1.0/24 link#4 U 0 92 em0 192.168.1.11 link#4 UHS 0 0 lo0 Hope this clears things up. Regards, Marco --=20 If you keep your mind sufficiently open, people will throw a lot of rubbish into it. =09=09-- William Orton --394277907-1152482849-1315076137=:3032-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 18:57:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CFC106566B for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89B1B8FC13 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26181 invoked by uid 0); 3 Sep 2011 18:57:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2011 18:57:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=iO5MpKy/a0W+XdBz31YpyCDBQ0f4YQNFCRg7B4lWWeQ=; b=UR1Bs7gacsP7Q5/WBanrBQTLpGaIbppUzU5erTthb1wN8Fooz+ODBfVZmVIfbwaJ30TdpXFoJKyE7gdIHgS736hNuLp9mnn6x1Dsw8prY9yXA/kFX/XIWMKqRQZPLKwQ; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QzvPg-0004O8-3M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 12:57:57 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 03 Sep 2011 12:39:19 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:39:19 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110903183919.GA89500@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110805191214.GA19848@kar.user-mode.org> <4E3C4F7F.7020506@xaerolimit.net> <4E608910.2070900@comcast.net> <20110902130933.4f18836c.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110902130933.4f18836c.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Alternative windowmanagers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:57:58 -0000 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 01:09:33PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 03:43:12 -0400, Allen wrote: > > > > If the people who work on Gnome are going to go Linux only, than, f > > them. >=20 > Gnome, and maybe also Xfce (for using the same Gtk infrastructures) > will _maybe_ turn into a Linux-centered project, and maybe eventually > become an own distribution. It's kinda the other way around. The XFCE developers have already started developing specifically for Linux. Their concession to the fact that there are other OSes where people like to use XFCE than just Linux distributions is that the parts of XFCE that only work on Linux-based systems can be left out. If you want those parts, too bad. Last I checked, a few weeks ago, the status of GNOME was that some influential GNOME developers were advocating for doing Linux-only development -- but no decisions along those lines had yet been made. If that has changed, I haven't heard about it yet. > > That is nothing bad per se, it just means that using future Gnome on > FreeBSD will be problematic, or maybe even impossible. On theo other > hand, concentrating on _one_ OS platform might give Gnome the boost > that it needs for developing better speed, better integration and > better functionality, but only if the Linux OS environment allows it > to. It seems short-sighted and counterproductive, to me, to say nothing of being a poor choice for development practices in general. There are other things about GNOME that should be fixed long before they take the drastic step of trying to make up for those problems (rather than fixing them) by throwing away stuff that works. It strikes me as a case of poor decision making similar, in principle, to premature optimization. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5idFcACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX+fwCdGoPe0hF8baJ1yNMpHe0jEu4o szMAoKTlfpYzaN8AkwPbVehWc3tZLpd7 =PeE9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 20:36:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788091065670 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1828FC08 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p83KZfse010717; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:35:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:35:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201109032035.p83KZfse010717@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: brett@lariat.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201109031639.KAA25689@lariat.net> Cc: Subject: Re: "at" command and mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 20:36:20 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 3 11:39:54 2011 > Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:39:44 -0600 > To: questions@freebsd.org > From: Brett Glass > Cc: > Subject: "at" command and mail > > I'm setting up a FreeBSD appliance that won't be running a mail > daemon. I'd like the at(8) command to be there for scheduling of > commands, but do not see any way to prevent it from trying to send > mail after it executes a command. (There's not even a command line > option that says "do not mail," or at least I can't find one.) Am I > missing something, or does at(8) always expect to be able to send > mail? If so, would it be worth implementing an atrun.conf > configuration file that makes it optional and possibly sets other > defaults for at(8)? Is 'atrun' actually sending the mails or is 'cron' doing it? 'atrun' is invoked by 'cron', from a specification in the system crontab file. Cron emails *whenever* a cron-scheduled job produces stdout or stderr output. Thus, by modifying the atrun line in crontab, to redirect both stdout and stderr to /dev/null, you should prvent any 'mailing'. You could, in theory, have the crontab line _append_ output to a filename based on a timestamp, however, that intermixes output from all users. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 20:38:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFF2106564A for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B2D8FC1C for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27146 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:38:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201109032038.OAA27146@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:38:32 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Huge interrupt overhead reported after RAM added to Atom-based system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 20:38:36 -0000 I've just seen something very peculiar. I have here a dual Atom (D525) system which was running with 1 GB of RAM, and this morning I put a 4 GB module into the system instead. Suddenly, the systat(8) and top(8) commands were both reporting bursts of interrupt overhead as high as 25% of total CPU capacity. Yet, in the display from the systat -vmstat option, no additional interrupts were appearing on the right hand side of the screen where interrupt sources were listed. The system is running FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE. The documentation for several motherboards online mention that the Atom can be run with 4 GB of RAM with a "64 bit operating system." I can't tell whether something non-obvious is going on under the hood -- either in the chipset or in the CPUs -- that's racking up overhead, or if the interrupt overhead doesn't exist at all and the reported CPU load is an artifact of some weirdness in the kernel. I need to know, though, before I deploy the system... so I'd appreciate any advice or ideas from any kernel experts who might be reading messages here. --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 21:42:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4241065672 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366FA8FC0C for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27491; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:42:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201109032142.PAA27491@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:42:20 -0600 To: Robert Bonomi , questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <201109032035.p83KZfse010717@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201109031639.KAA25689@lariat.net> <201109032035.p83KZfse010717@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Subject: Re: "at" command and mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 21:42:26 -0000 At 02:35 PM 9/3/2011, Robert Bonomi wrote: >Is 'atrun' actually sending the mails or is 'cron' doing it? 'atrun' is >invoked by 'cron', from a specification in the system crontab file. /usr/src/libexec/atrun/atrun.c shows an invocation of sendmail(8) directly from atrun(8). >Cron emails *whenever* a cron-scheduled job produces stdout or stderr >output. atrun intentionally doesn't produce output unless it encounters an error; see the same source file. >You could, in theory, have the crontab line _append_ output to a filename >based on a timestamp, however, that intermixes output from all users. One way to avoid problems would be to create a file name from a timestamp and a pid. The key thing, though, is to avoid mailing on machines that don't have mail. --Brett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 3 21:49:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799EF106564A for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310688FC12 for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p83LmaAa011095 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:48:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:48:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201109032148.p83LmaAa011095@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201109032142.PAA27491@lariat.net> Cc: Subject: Re: "at" command and mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 21:49:14 -0000 > Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:42:20 -0600 > To: questions@freebsd.org > From: Brett Glass > Subject: Re: "at" command and mail > > At 02:35 PM 9/3/2011, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > >Is 'atrun' actually sending the mails or is 'cron' doing it? 'atrun' is > >invoked by 'cron', from a specification in the system crontab file. > > /usr/src/libexec/atrun/atrun.c shows an invocation of sendmail(8) directly > from atrun(8). Hard to question that. I like somebody with a truely authoritative answer! This also provides an 'obvious' solution to the OP's problem. Make a 'sendmail' substitute -- a simple script, say, that does what you want. the command output will be on stdin, and the 'user' will be a parameter to the script.