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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 124sm12079190qkm.115.2020.06.10.03.36.10 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 10 Jun 2020 03:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hp-envy.seibercom.net [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49hk155CNSz1hnH for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 06:36:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 06:35:55 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd Message-ID: <20200610063555.00003707@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <62d10000-e068-922e-23bd-f7a61e7a4e89@anatoli.ws> <6a4f6a15-ec43-03f6-1a41-a109e445f026@anatoli.ws> <00225a04-237d-9051-9aea-12c192106a20@anatoli.ws> <373EDB20-C750-42E2-A41B-EA61F6E49807@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200609120136.00005b3c@seibercom.net> <2393a1e0-b073-950a-78be-9f57d8e9934b@anatoli.ws> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/wOiIsCz_6/6VteTq4.Ik1y+"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49hk1B6Lpnz3X7N X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=kmVPxFUJ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f32 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.37 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.11)[-0.110]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.109.225.250:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.899]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.02)[-1.021]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f32:from]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 10:36:15 -0000 --Sig_/wOiIsCz_6/6VteTq4.Ik1y+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 21:19:58 -0500, Valeri Galtsev commented: >Thanks, Anatoli, again for details. > >And again, it was Anatoli who gave full story, see his original=20 >enlightening post earlier in this thread. Something got screwed up on=20 >Jerry's side when he was replying Anatoli's message so it started=20 >looking as if it was I who provided references, which I can not take=20 >credit for. > >Valeri I have come to discover the problem with my email and this thread. Apparently, due to the way I have my sorting rules set up, mail from "Valeri Galtsev" and "Anatoli" are being misplaced and out of order in this forum. For whatever reason, Valeri Galtsev and "Anatoli" have chosen to include me in there replies to this list; e.g.: From: Valeri Galtsev To: Anatoli , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jerry From: Anatoli To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jerry HINT: Valeri Galtsev, and Anatoli, I do not need to receive a separate email when you respond to a post, any post, on the FreeBSD Questions list. In fact, proper 'net etiquette, is not to include someone directly on an email forum reply unless they specifically request it. Due to this behavior, I am missing one of Anatoli's replies to Donald Wilde in the "Optane Memory" thread. I'll probably find it eventually. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/wOiIsCz_6/6VteTq4.Ik1y+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl7gt48ACgkQOHMGOIfe xWSwLwf9F45e16xpZ7PUE/LRTg6N53B6oOT4JD75cWsj5Z8eDX+ANWzSW3SgJLPo WneJFwo0DydlrU2xdhFoNz4mcoQxXbbFjA/C69wvlJuh1DJKqZRP7wLODTmLq3EV zuG57tcglhYJpgVBy++EzH0zMhPsjcST/DXfEi+YzYpLQsPu0yPx0QNE+tWjvgUQ FeAUXLPAg49CAj9jvW89Efpx/D0rP36KnA4Iv+O5AAvBS+YlGxoIKUJred+TH702 wGk2DUfZsF817FlBwjkNDnAglAXL4TwioLMjibG2cY3u16L/u8LHFmdRHoCzZLfW tPjcSdTTZqlJLpH567nCZm1zDZsI+A== =Uwmm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/wOiIsCz_6/6VteTq4.Ik1y+--