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Date:      Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:37:16 +0300
From:      abi <abi@abinet.ru>
To:        Chris H <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The future of portmaster
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17.02.2017 00:22, Chris H пишет:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> wrote
>
>> On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote:
>>> On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
>>>>> Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can
>>>>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool.
>>>>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my
>>>>>> attention
>>>>> What kind of special support?
>>>>>
>>>>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and
>>>>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen
>>>>> minutes to set up.
>>>>>
>>>> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package
>>>> [...]
>>> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional
>>> feature, I hope it doesn't become required.  The current non-use
>>> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug.    -- George
>>>
>>>
>> Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package
>> manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on
>> multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot
>> environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not
>> found in the target machine.  Here by making the package unusable.
> Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal
> by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8).
> portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has
> everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-)
>
 From my point of view, jails are overkill. Chroot should be enough and 
it would be nice if portmaster starts building in clean environment.



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