From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 17 20:10:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D028D1065674 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBC68FC15 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:10:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.30.101.53] ([209.117.142.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p7HK87rb094545 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:08:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20110809042639.GA20251@lonesome.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:06:48 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <611D81DD-8237-4F00-A35A-38D4550803B8@bsdimp.com> References: <201108082102.p78L22jg075884@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> <20110809042639.GA20251@lonesome.com> To: Mark Linimon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (harmony.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.6]); Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:08:12 -0600 (MDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [head tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:10:34 -0000 On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 06:53:40PM -0400, Super Bisquit wrote: >> Why does Tinderbox need cross tools? Is the build not native? If so, = then >> the rationale would be to build on the architecture and not use cross >> compilation. >=20 > - There are no powerpc machines currently online at *.FreeBSD.org. >=20 > - The powerpc machines that we run on are far slower than the = tinderbox > machines. >=20 > - Even if we had powerpc machines available, and could deal with the > time-lag for world builds, what then about archs with no native > machines available (e.g. MIPS)? MIPS will build natively. Takes about 14 hours on one of my mips boards = (high end access point grade) or about 2 hours on my Cavium over = pessimal network setup. Warner