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Date:      Sat, 01 May 2010 21:55:02 -0700
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        ed@80386.nl, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Alexander@Leidinger.net
Subject:   Re: [Extension] utmpx and LOGIN_FAILURE
Message-ID:  <4BDD05A6.1090709@elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <20100501.215023.353672579433532204.imp@bsdimp.com>
References:  <20100501203244.GT56080@hoeg.nl>	<20100501205625.GB36980@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org>	<20100501235846.GU56080@hoeg.nl> <20100501.215023.353672579433532204.imp@bsdimp.com>

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On 5/1/10 8:50 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message:<20100501235846.GU56080@hoeg.nl>
>              Ed Schouten<ed@80386.nl>  writes:
> : * Peter Jeremy<peterjeremy@acm.org>  wrote:
> :>  On 2010-May-01 22:32:44 +0200, Ed Schouten<ed@80386.nl>  wrote:
> :>  >* Alexander Leidinger<Alexander@Leidinger.net>  wrote:
> :>  >>  Does this default to on or off or is this always on? If the later: some
> :>  >>  kind of a switch (no matter what the default is) would be highly
> :>  >>  desired.
> :>  >
> :>  >What about adding a switch to last(1) to (un)hide the entries?
> :>
> :>  That doesn't cover the DoS potential of logging this data in the
> :>  firstplace.
> :
> : So how is this covered right now? As far as I know, all of our existing
> : login services write messages to /var/log/*.

successful and unsuccessful attempts need to be in different files or 
an attacker can effectively flush the record of successful attempts by 
filling up the files with unsuccessful attempts. This is also a DOS 
method.

>
> newsyslog rotates those files when they get too big...
>
> Warner
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