From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jun 7 17:46:20 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891BC332D75 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 17:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49g3hq1vXYz4MYP for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 17:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.231] (unknown [172.58.139.70]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C2C24E679 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 12:46:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Valeri Galtsev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: Re: Minimal skills Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 12:46:11 -0500 References: To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49g3hq1vXYz4MYP X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.37 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[172.58.139.70:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.02)[0.024]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.60)[0.596]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.15)[0.148]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2020 17:46:20 -0000 > On Jun 6, 2020, at 8:17 PM, Aryeh Friedman = wrote: >=20 > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 5:06 AM Vincent DEFERT <20.100@defert.com> = wrote: >=20 >> My advice: NEVER, ever, learn Java, for if you do, you'll never want = to >> use another language and that could be a handicap in a new = developer's >> career. >>=20 >=20 > I switched 10 years ago to Java after 15 years of C/C++ (and an odd > assortment of other languages) and certainly agree with the idea of = not > wanting to use another language. Think of Java as the family SUV, = not > particularly fast and nimble when you need high performance or very = low > level work but what is it good for nothing is better (rock solid code = that > doesn't require the above). That being said you should learn it but = learn > it with other languages. >=20 To the OP: As someone already said in this thread: Java is proprietary, and Oracle = who bought out Sun Microsystems (the creator of Java) started charging = money end users of applications written in Java. Enough said, use your brain end find extra reading if necessary. Just my 2 cents. Valeri >=20 >>=20 >> On 06/06/2020 08:22, roberthuff@rcn.com wrote: >>>=20 >>> I do agree that if one intends to do substantial programming in >>> the current environment ... learning an object-oriented language is = a >>> really good idea. >>>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"