From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 16 17:40:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E82B10255 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2016 17:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1mail2513.mymailbank.co.uk (UK1MAIL2513-PERMANET.IE.mymailbank.co.uk [217.69.47.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D37151E for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2016 17:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (UnknownHost [88.151.27.41]) by uk1mail2513-d.mymailbank.co.uk with SMTP; Sat, 16 Apr 2016 18:40:20 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1arUCg-000Oki-4s; Sat, 16 Apr 2016 17:40:18 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 18:40:17 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports upgrade script Message-Id: <20160416184017.ffcd1d420a8f0293ce5f1851@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20160416183759.a050201a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <2daca22c-7719-0776-fbe8-3c37021298bf@cloudzeeland.nl> <20160416122425.b603d040.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160416170837.81dddb26.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160416170810.2432e5da717042bb18346ee1@sohara.org> <20160416183759.a050201a.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 17:40:39 -0000 On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 18:37:59 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 17:08:10 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 17:08:37 +0200 > > Polytropon wrote: > > > > > Terminology sidenote: The thing is called a directory, not "folder"; > > > "folder" is the name of the graphical representation of a > > > directory. :-) > > > > Introduced in order that people would not be frightened away > > from a new user friendly operating system by scary technical terms and > > instead have something familiar. > > Wrong. Earlier representations of the directory (which today is an > integral part of a hierarchical file system) was the filing cabinet. > This metaphor did not survive. Nope, the hierarchial filesystem was invented as part of the design of Multics - the 1965 paper is here http://www.multicians.org/fjcc4.html. The terms defined in that paper include file, directory and filesystem used for the first time as we use them today in unix. This was long before visual representations which started with the Alto in 1973 but didn't escape to a commercial product until the Star in 1981, you can see them here . AFAIK that was the first ever visual representation of files and directories in an interface, produced by the man who invented the concept of icons in 1975. When was the filing cabinet used ? I've never seen it. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/