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Date:      Sat, 11 May 2013 19:44:46 +0200
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <>
To:        "Steve O'Hara-Smith" <>
Subject:   Re: List Spam Filtering 
Message-ID:  <>
In-Reply-To: Your message "Sat, 11 May 2013 17:09:44 BST." <> 

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"Steve O'Hara-Smith" wrote:
> On Thu, 09 May 2013 02:26:26 +0200
> "Julian H. Stacey" <> wrote:
> > If list write access was changed to Subscribers Only:
> >   - List could silently discard such spam.
> >   - Postmaster@  (& webmaster@ weeding web archives) would have less work.
> >   - Less individual need to select spam phrases to copy to personal
> > filters (& less time searching WTF dialect American above meant in
> > English ;-).
> 	The downside is that it would require people to subscribe in order
> to ask a question, 

True.  I suggest the up side outweighs the down side though.

I've always felt when I as a newbie somewhere, wanted to post any
other project's mail list to ask a question & get free help, then
I owed it to those there to subscribe if necessary.

However, FreeBSD could always provide a web Captcha anti spam validater 
for those too lazy/ uncommited to subscribe questions@ ?

> this is also the reason for the convention of using
> "Reply to all" in FreeBSD mailing lists. It's been a convention for a
> *long* time, at least since FreeBSD 1.1 was shiny and new in 1993.

I'm not intending to question or suggest any change re CC behaviour.
  (Maybe you mis-read or mis-infered what I intended, 
   or maybe I mis-wrote, or mis-implied, whatever, please forget that bit,
   though as background I'd observe:
	Questions@ didn't exist for quite a while after FreeBSD started,
	Hackers@ & some others preceded it.
	Various people prune CC when they get littered with too many CC. )

Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich
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