From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 11 17:45:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05405495 for ; Sat, 11 May 2013 17:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769C8172 for ; Sat, 11 May 2013 17:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBE668.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.203.230.104]) (authenticated bits=128) by flat.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r4BHix5F080114; Sat, 11 May 2013 19:44:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r4BHiue3004669; Sat, 11 May 2013 19:44:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r4BHik5Y069562; Sat, 11 May 2013 19:44:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201305111744.r4BHik5Y069562@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Subject: Re: List Spam Filtering From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 11 May 2013 17:09:44 BST." <20130511170944.20e6037204c186923a385d7e@sohara.org> Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 19:44:46 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 17:45:08 -0000 Hi, "Steve O'Hara-Smith" wrote: > On Thu, 09 May 2013 02:26:26 +0200 > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > > If list write access was changed to Subscribers Only: > > - List could silently discard such spam. > > - Postmaster@ (& webmaster@ weeding web archives) would have less work. > > - Less individual need to select spam phrases to copy to personal > > filters (& less time searching WTF dialect American above meant in > > English ;-). > > The downside is that it would require people to subscribe in order > to ask a question, True. I suggest the up side outweighs the down side though. I've always felt when I as a newbie somewhere, wanted to post any other project's mail list to ask a question & get free help, then I owed it to those there to subscribe if necessary. However, FreeBSD could always provide a web Captcha anti spam validater for those too lazy/ uncommited to subscribe questions@ ? > this is also the reason for the convention of using > "Reply to all" in FreeBSD mailing lists. It's been a convention for a > *long* time, at least since FreeBSD 1.1 was shiny and new in 1993. I'm not intending to question or suggest any change re CC behaviour. (Maybe you mis-read or mis-infered what I intended, or maybe I mis-wrote, or mis-implied, whatever, please forget that bit, though as background I'd observe: Questions@ didn't exist for quite a while after FreeBSD started, Hackers@ & some others preceded it. Various people prune CC when they get littered with too many CC. ) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative.