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Date:      Fri, 6 Dec 2002 00:11:36 -0500
From:      The Anarcat <anarcat@anarcat.ath.cx>
To:        Aristedes Maniatis <ari@ish.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: update strategies
Message-ID:  <20021206051136.GA1150@lenny.anarcat.ath.cx>
In-Reply-To: <5FCDFD3A-08CB-11D7-86ED-003065A9024A@ish.com.au>
References:  <5FCDFD3A-08CB-11D7-86ED-003065A9024A@ish.com.au>

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Hello!

On Fri Dec 06, 2002 at 02:32:40PM +1100, Aristedes Maniatis wrote:
> I'm new here, and I've been lurking to look for answers. You seem like=20
> a friendly bunch, so I'll ask my question.
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> It appears that there are two strategies for updating FreeBSD systems:
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> * cvsup the latest STABLE release on a regular basis
> * get the CD release (4.6, 4.7, etc) snapshots periodically and update=20
> from that either with binaries or compiled from source
>=20
> I am curious about what most people do. For a server where stability is=
=20
> important, I obviously don't want to buildworld once a week, but it is=20
> also important to keep on top of bug reports and security holes.

I can't speak for most people, however I can say that I mostly use
cvsup + buildworld to maintain my system.

> I am already using cvsup with the ports tree and it works really=20
> nicely, giving me the choice of what to update and when. Am I right in=20
> saying that the base FreeBSD install can work the same way?

Similarly, yes.

> I guess what makes more more confused is figuring out what is part of=20
> "FreeBSD" and what is part of the ports. Some things seem to be both:=20
> eg. perl and bind. Is there a map somewhere that sets this out clearly?=
=20

Yes. I guess you could say that everything that is in /usr/src is part
of *base*, with all source code included, and all that is in
/usr/ports is part of The Ports Collection (c).

Also note that the ports collection doesn't usually carry the source
code of the software in itself, but rather a framework of how to fetch
compile and install that software, in opposition with the base system
that doesn't need to fetch anything since the source code is already
in there.

> Does everything which is a port get installed in /usr/local?

Yes.

> I'm having some problems getting the kernel to compile (errors in=20
> "/usr/src/sys/modules/linux") and I suspect that the problem may be due=
=20
> to this lack of understanding about which source trees live where.

I guess the standard answer here is:=20

1- re-cvsup and try again
2- I need more details: your cvsup config file, your kernel config,
the complete error message, etc.

Cheers!

A.

--=20
Imagination is more important than knowledge
                        - Albert Einstein

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