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Date:      Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:46:36 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        Francisco Reyes <lists@natserv.com>, Scott Mitchell <scott.mitchell@mail.com>
Cc:        Francisco Reyes <lists@natserv.com>, FreeBSD Chat List <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Just lost one to Linux. Compaq server support.
Message-ID:  <a05101004b846e457d3fb@[10.0.1.48]>
In-Reply-To: <20011219192206.J5735-100000@zoraida.natserv.net>
References:  <20011219192206.J5735-100000@zoraida.natserv.net>

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At 7:23 PM -0500 on 2001/12/19, Francisco Reyes wrote:

>  On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Scott Mitchell wrote:
>
>>  :-(  Good luck to them with RedHat... look forward to everything breaking
>>  when they upgrade to the next point release.
>
>  Upgrade? :-)
>  I don't think they wont' even try that.

	Cool.  So, you can look forward to having your machines 
compromised by li0n2 (or whatever), and having to scrub and 
re-install every single machine on your network, because as part of 
the rootkit they also installed a password sniffer, and used the 
machine as a launching point for other break-in attempts.

	I wish you luck in keeping your machines secure, starting about 
five minutes after they begin the process to install Linux on that 
system -- I doubt that they'll finish the install process before the 
machine has already been "0wn3d" by some "skr1pt k1dd13".

>  Unfortunately as long as FreeBSD doesn't do better with
>  Compaq Raids I am not sure how much luck I will have with production
>  machines.

	If you got one, contribute it to the project (or at least let 
someone try building some code on it), so that we can get support 
folded into the main code base.  That's really about the only way 
this sort of thing happens, unless the manufacturer decides to donate 
a piece of hardware directly.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

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