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Date:      Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:54:34 -0600
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        stable@freebsd.org
Cc:        all@biosys.net
Subject:   Re: cvsup confusion
Message-ID:  <14997.31882.693873.985415@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <200102221646.f1MGk3J27698@vashon.polstra.com>
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20010221054413.00c443a0@64.7.7.83> <4.3.2.7.2.20010221203901.00c8fd48@64.7.7.83> <200102221646.f1MGk3J27698@vashon.polstra.com>

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John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com> types:
> I bet 99% of all users leave their crontab entries for the periodic
> scripts unchanged.

I expect it's higher than that if you add more precision. First, most
users (more than 90%) never fool with software configuration *at all*,
though that's probably lower than average for FreeBSD users. Second,
absent the cvsup issue, there's no good reason to change
them. Finally, if you do change them, it's another file you have to
update by hand.

> > In any case, to the original poster, regardless of how you decide to
> > schedule your updates, you'll alleviate the problem by doing as was
> > suggested and reading the manpage, or (a better solution imho, but
> > reading the manpage anyway is always a great idea) condensing the
> > three seperate cvsupfiles you have into one and only invoking one
> > copy of cvsup to begin with.

At this point it's possible to run cvsup from the supplied supfiles by
hand; there's no need to edit them at all if you want all of src,
ports or doc. If having people run one cvsup instead of two or three
would be a real improvement, why not provide "sample" combined
supfiles, and then dike the support for running more than one sup out
of /usr/src/Makefile? Maybe do it in two steps - combined supfiles
with a note in updating to encourage people to use them, then the
dike.

	<mike
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