From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Sun Mar 28 19:02:15 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C4D5AABBF for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 19:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mx.blih.net (mx.blih.net [212.83.155.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.blih.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F7lSj4j1rz3FBG for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 19:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bidouilliste.com; s=mx; t=1616958125; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=T522cRMqzPEr3aQmyS7JDvdu2cfTHRVMSlxdsoLMAwU=; b=qG/9BSYu02vE6r08R+dCmvfRL+drmOu2RmMUWYbKiTelYMy0MUxrjfGkrL2c5AHoUr46yG dKMIqxVFyuXbGOu96kt63gTxQwerQ2y3GzEkKYGLqckJWTvt/UVo4TRaCtTwR4VQWqy7g/ pUoSUr7xSlMm7m427S0b0ry8xVXOegA= Received: from amy (lfbn-idf2-1-644-4.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.247.100.4]) by mx.blih.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 48c9bfc3 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Sun, 28 Mar 2021 19:02:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 21:02:05 +0200 From: Emmanuel Vadot To: Daniel Engberg Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, andy.mitchell.fr@icloud.com Subject: Re: Any good alternative to Raspberry for Arm64? Message-Id: <20210328210205.dc2efe83f4b36e2e06a1685a@bidouilliste.com> In-Reply-To: <7b284f7718556f1cf0a7a205c98db6b1@pyret.net> References: <7b284f7718556f1cf0a7a205c98db6b1@pyret.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F7lSj4j1rz3FBG X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bidouilliste.com header.s=mx header.b=qG/9BSYu; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=bidouilliste.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of manu@bidouilliste.com designates 212.83.155.74 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=manu@bidouilliste.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bidouilliste.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[bidouilliste.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[212.83.155.74:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12876, ipnet:212.83.128.0/19, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bidouilliste.com:s=mx]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[manu]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[212.83.155.74:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[freebsd.org,icloud.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 19:02:15 -0000 On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 20:41:16 +0200 Daniel Engberg wrote: > Hi, > > Since you're asking about RPi I'm going assume that you're looking for > something in the same ballpark. The fastest SoC would most likely be > Rockchip RK3399, it's a 6-core SoC which supports up to 4Gb of RAM and > another SoC is Allwinner A64 (H5 is also pretty similar) which is a quad > core SoC. Since you don't outline your goals I'm going to be short about > general support. > > Video support is in the works regarding Panfrost (Mali video driver), > you can get video output via framebuffer but it's slow and not ideal > usable for desktop usage. Mali is only the GPU part, 2D acceleration and proper resolution etc ... is provided by the KMS driver. Some are ready for Allwinner and NVidia here : https://github.com/evadot/drm-subtree/ A few stuff needs to be done before we can include it in FreeBSD. > This page sums it up pretty good otherwise > https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/RockChip > The above pretty much also applies for Allwinner > > Rock Pi 4(a) and RockPro64 works well in general, I also have a few > Allwinner boards (H3/H5) and they also work well. While the package repo > is starting to look pretty good for aarch64 I would recommend you to get > a 4Gb variant along with external storage as you may end up needing to > compile some software on your own unless you usable "buildbox" around. > > As others have mentioned, if you can find a port of u-boot you can > expect support to be pretty good in general. > > I would also recommend you to pick up serial adapter as you may need one > since video output may not always be available / work. > https://wiki.freebsd.org/USB/Peripherals/Serial > > Best regards, > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Emmanuel Vadot