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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q5sm14081894vdj.5.2013.03.24.04.04.54 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 04:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3ZYbNP0sy4z2CG5T for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:04:52 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating curl Message-ID: <20130324070452.176c84ce@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20814.24592.288492.914792@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20130323213126.59789466@scorpio> <20814.24592.288492.914792@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlH8+jzZ4D50uRrqHMs0XKOG6lMMaqQM+baVJQJlmFsQXLniWi9O9tK2abuEmZsaHv4qWK/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:04:56 -0000 On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 22:08:16 -0400 Robert Huff articulated: > > The port version of curl is "7.24.0_2". On February > > 6th. curl-7.29.0 was released. Is there any possibility that this > > port might be updated. > > Of course. > However: my system alone has around two dozen ports that list > > curl as a dependency. No update will happen without sufficient > testing to make sure there's no breakage. > Volunteers for testing should probably contact the maintainer. That is an excuse, not a reason. If the maintainer, who has not bothered to reply, were to issue an experimental or devel port of curl, I would be happy to try it. The fact that curl is a dependent of numerous ports is also irrelevant. There are ports that are in far greater demand on the system that get updated in less than a year, and multiple versions, time. There have been several versions released since the one in the port's system and over a years time. The KDE and GNOME team often state why they are not updating a particular port and what to expect in its regards. If the curl maintainer either has lost interest in maintaining the port or has a specific reason for not keeping it relatively current, then I think he|she|they have an obligation to at least make that know to the FreeBSD community. I can totally understand a maintainer walking away from a port, it happens here all the time. However, if the maintainer no longer desires to keep the port current, it would behoove them to state so, so that another individual who might have the knowledge and time to do so can take over maintainer ship. I am not upset at the maintainer, I just want to know what the future of the curl port is. I use it extensively. Your statement regarding "testing" is a non-starter Robert. Other versions of this port were released sans any formal testing that I am aware of. Plus, the maintainer, again to the best of my knowledge, has not offered any of the versions of curl issued since the port's version, for public testing. It appears to me that the port is abandoned. We have ports like "Postfix" that are updated in virtual real time and then we have ports that seem to orphaned. It is too bad we cannot find a nice happy medium. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Chicago law prohibits eating in a place that is on fire.