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Date:      Fri, 01 Jul 2016 20:35:25 +0000
From:      Priyadarshan <bsd@bontempi.net>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: "Simple" Languages in FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <1467405325.1605258.654553905.17C82102@webmail.messagingengine.com>
In-Reply-To: <20160701202117.GA1441@hephaistos.local>
References:  <20160630175243.063e07a7@KoggyBSD.org> <20160701202117.GA1441@hephaistos.local>

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On Fri, 1 Jul 2016, at 20:21, Martin S. Weber wrote:
>=20
> Get yourself a "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs"
> (SICP), it's free and teaches scheme (a lisp). Once you've mastered
> that, you may happily delve into several "low-level" schemes,
> bells-and-whistles common lisps (e.g., clisp, sbcl), or "modern"
> lisps like e.g., clojure/clojurescript.
>=20
> If you take that route, you'll only have tired smiles for all the
> great ideas that these "modern" scripting languages come up with.
> If you add a bit of spice with e.g. Doug Hoyte's "Let Over Lambda",
> you might enlighten yourself how a high-level language like a lisp
> may get you hand-crafted assembler like performance.
>=20
> Do yourself a favor and stay away from the modern scripting languages
> that try to quirkily reimplement half-a-century old lisp (or
> smalltalk) ideas.




> Do it proper. Go Lisp. Enjoy.


Yes, I did not dare to say that, but that is exactly what I should have
said.

If one really cares about programming, not just as coding per se , but
as craft, aesthetics, even lore, then personally the Lisp Way is a very
good way to learn.

Thanks for bringing up Doug Hoyte's =C2=ABLet Over Lambda=C2=BB
(http://letoverlambda.com) too, although that is considered an advanced
book, even for the more experienced programmers at our shop.


Priyadarshan



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