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Date:      Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:35:05 +0100
From:      Per Tore Larsen <per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com>
To:        "'pgd@telehorizon.com'" <pgd@telehorizon.com>, Per Tore Larsen <per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: NAT within a NAT
Message-ID:  <25879E6A7E74D411B9370050043B7F3E09F8D6@RUBICON>

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> The problem is that the when I give on PC3 "ifconfig fxp1"
> (my second network card that gives to PC4) I get the 
> frustrating message "no
> carrier".
Ok.. now when you say "ifconfig fxp1" is that the hole line
or is it more like
1) "ifconfig fxp1 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
or in /etc/rc.conf
2) ifconfig_fxp1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"

Also has the card more than 1 transiver? Depending on the
network card this may the problem.

Could you try the option 2) for /etc/rc.conf? Do you get the
same error message? The 1) may be flawed since I can't test
it and it's been a while since I used ifconfig that way.

Have you tried a diffrent network card? Same result?

The rest of the layout and intentions looks fine.

PeTe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgd@telehorizon.com [mailto:pgd@telehorizon.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:44 PM
> To: Per Tore Larsen
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: NAT within a NAT
> 
> 
> Here's what i've tried so far:
> 
> I have setup my NAT using the 10.0.0.0 range.
> I set up the one of the NATed PCs to be a NAT server as well 
> (using the
> 192.168.0.0 range). I've put a second network card in it and 
> on this second card
> I have connected another PC (the new 192.168.0.0 sub-NAT-network). 

> 
> More or less the following situation (where you see a '#', it 
> is a network
> card):
> 
>              10.0.0.0        PC3     192.168.0.0
>          +----+    +-PC1    +----+
>          |1st |    |        |2nd |  
> world<---#NAT #----+--------#NAT #-----PC4
>          |serv|    |        |serv|     
>          +----+    +-PC2    +----+
> 
> 
> The problem is that the when I give on PC3 "ifconfig fxp1"
> (my second network card that gives to PC4) I get the 
> frustrating message "no
> carrier".
> 
> And of course PC4 gets "no rout to host"..
> 
> Any ideas??
> 
> thanks,
> dimitri & paisios,
> 
> PC. I use no DHCP ..
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Per Tore Larsen <per.tore.larsen@fernonorden.com>:
> 
> > First of all, yes it's possible.
> > Setup the second NAT server in the same way you did on
> > first NAT server.
> > 
> > The problem that might arise is when a machine on the
> > second LAN wants for axess the "world".  This can be
> > solved for web by using a proxy but dunno how
> > ftp/telnet/ssh will behave.
> > 
> > Try it on a test benchfirst and you will get your answer.
> > Also depending on you network, you could make FreeBSD answer
> > both net 192.168.1 and 192.168.2 using alias in ifconfig.
> > (If you use DHCP you might need to have two network adapters
> > to physically separate the networks)
> > 
> > PeTe
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pgd@telehorizon.com [mailto:pgd@telehorizon.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:55 AM
> > > To: Freebsd
> > > Subject: NAT within a NAT
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello there,
> > > I have a LAN which is "hidden" from the world using NAT and i 
> > > want to setup a
> > > sub-NAT-network within my LAN. That is: using another NAT 
> > > server to hide this
> > > subnetwork from the rest of the LAN. 
> > > 
> > > Can anyone tell me if this is possible?
> > > 
> > > bye,
> > > paisios
> > > 
> > > (I hope I gave a clear picture of this peculiar situation..)
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
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