From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 01:41:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E63B106564A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 01:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A488FC0A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 01:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so5471684iwn.13 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:41:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=AG5kuzFHHTuBBVi92yK1RLPLd3NR0y1DbtOIZWQEVBY=; b=WiciwEI01G3mdEXhmPuBYNnoaQc37ZIjAUWMOiWzN+xwAEGPEVMap4mektXXn5TcvX c3AKZ3ZBsujKxwvKFpAAgVTgIgrvDWYkzmXefRKJp+aordvhU6kLnQ/cJD+E6Tlu01JP akgFL0IO8SJ/RwS7/X6v6p3GGtYJf5W2RF7Is= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nFKYTEn0NEjT5fFIJIzBDTD54LUYdApsWOQweTSNBycds23MA2SQSr1axgRUUw9Iv0 TEhWfKNAxkczT26Ccj5/pjL6A0d/nyw3PEVX6kwkDbOStydbKSjumgK4AGHOxmuYkc/j TEaUUjycbOOz7hpHn7kuDMbG7yO1cfAwpXZXM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.74.2 with SMTP id s2mr5261636ibj.8.1304212712281; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.170.136 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: Arthur Barlow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: NVIDIA-driver-173 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 01:41:20 -0000 Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? I tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from NVIDIA. No joy. Does anyone know of other possibilities? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 07:29:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A2D106566C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 07:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=5qTpg9Kl=XX=beatsnet.com=beat.siegenthaler@beatsnet.com) Received: from vulcan.beatsnet.com (sigi.broker.freenet6.net [IPv6:2001:5c0:1400:b::2a7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6478FC08 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 07:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Beat-Siegenthalers-MacBook-Pro.local (zux165-132.adsl.green.ch [80.254.165.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by vulcan.beatsnet.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p417ThOj067526 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 09:29:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from beat.siegenthaler@beatsnet.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=beatsnet.com; s=VULCAN_DKIM; t=1304234984; bh=WpgpIMN/E6ezdbMWYC/wSyqUzIQlxO3ICOXjhEOSfuQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fCjco8dUaeR5yKtcNEQeeDuJ9DRisuBbgajNPhLjnYCyCJrzAzLBef1LemjbyjMK/ AtyV1UMjokIsf7nTYOR10/JsD8eehXbzulb0TCbE/bTz6yy2TOdeah20yfzThUfgoH KVMzm7f5cJy/4n2cPWoN+pqwzaMPJjo6tHUdC4XM= Message-ID: <4DBD0BE1.3080204@beatsnet.com> Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 09:29:37 +0200 From: Beat Siegenthaler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110421175624.GA9589@aurora.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20110421175624.GA9589@aurora.oekb.co.at> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (vulcan.beatsnet.com [193.138.215.102]); Sun, 01 May 2011 09:29:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at vulcan.beatsnet.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Admin-tools for BIND DNS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 07:29:48 -0000 On 21.04.11 19:56, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for graphical tools easing configuration of a bind > DNS-server. Ideally this tool should be capable of editing > IPv6-related records like AAAA too. > > Is there anything available out there for FreeBSD (I already checked > the ports collection, but couldn't find anything). > webmin it's in ports collection already.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 11:10:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52511065672 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 11:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABAF8FC08 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 11:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg13 with SMTP id 13so2447552gyg.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.183.18 with SMTP id g18mr5546389ybf.396.1304248238617; Sun, 01 May 2011 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w19sm867920ybe.25.2011.05.01.04.10.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 May 2011 04:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3QMmJq6cXTz2CG4n for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 07:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 07:10:35 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110501071035.1d52818e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: NVIDIA-driver-173 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 11:10:39 -0000 On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 Arthur Barlow articulated: > Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? I > tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from > NVIDIA. No joy. Does anyone know of other possibilities? You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the latest version in the posts system, "nvidia-driver-256.53_1"? I believe that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06, but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want to check with regarding that. All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on: . -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies, ignored or reported as Spam. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Conformity is the refuge of the unimaginative. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 11:24:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67805106566B for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 11:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19268FC08 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 11:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so4832084wyf.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 04:24:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5HjZIa3edMtPynw0iAnrUI/+9J3NWfTs1qYO6Ji4TG4=; b=tcfKrSyUedvNpa4wGXdS9W63UaMjz3xH1tJzOtBAJ5FYizOqm9RbKtVBjRsV6g9guQ 86L4yp3r3gLwulM70HHQ1Dj2OOxTLcdV8kfBed/p6+FBH9gFpE5rUCqmCT0ehnCZB0Sd UuGlKZMWnVs9EHRuNbBBjDr8eSTgQpOBNQKMo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cy7CxFbHfFg39hmDYzUiTPfpVcwLwK/d6YNrjH6azSk/pvFSkpxeUxsiBKkAtnP9VP a9oru70k5Ui8fd7ofZ1tmuGSV5Gpdol6Lh96rXgVgjw/7FitgPcoxy9bMq+E6OF15jme yT2MlZ0oZCB3q+aHxzWcQMg3a4cwjFGbFS+K8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.203.195 with SMTP id f45mr1359849weo.89.1304247599692; Sun, 01 May 2011 03:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.36.129 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 03:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 12:59:59 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: hanging process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 11:24:54 -0000 Hi guys, I have a amd64 8.2-RELEASE box running on a core2duo 2.2 GHz Intel with 6GB of RAM (ddr2). Earlier today I started "cvsup -g -L 2 -h `fastest_cvsup -q -c tld` /root/cvsup/kernel-supfile" and at some point, my ISP had a problem and my ssh connection dropped. Since that point, the server has a really low response time ("man top" takes ~1 minute to display). Besides this, I can't even reboot and a "shutdown -r now" halts the system with "some processes could not be killed" message. I manually killed the hanging ssh session and also flushed the pf state, reloading the rules (pfctl -F all -f /etc/pf.conf) but I have the same problem. CTRL+T after the "reboot" cmd shows: "load: 0.00 cmd: reboot 61080 [zilog->zl_cv_writer)] 49.39r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 1216k" but pretty much nothing happens. In the past, I had the same problem while running portmaster via ssh after my initial session dropped. It seems there is a hanging process but I cannot find it. Any help is appreciated. -- Best regards, Claudiu Vasadi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 13:17:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF22106566B for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 13:17:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D920E8FC13 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 13:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so5764821iyj.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 06:17:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.33.193 with SMTP id i1mr5677948ibd.199.1304255853391; Sun, 01 May 2011 06:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.23.68 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 06:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 09:17:33 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Tws-JBvPRZfz4jt0U8QAzHWytFw Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Monthly Login Accounting Report - What do the numbers mean? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 13:17:35 -0000 > Doing login accounting: > total 726.98 > aimass 508.96 > cctun 216.80 > cmm 0.84 > delco 0.37 > hugo 0.01 > What do these numbers mean? Is it login times? How can you login 0.01 times??? I know for a fact that in April hugo logged in exactly 1 time to do an scp of a large file. Are these numbers percentages ? guess not because there would be no total! Thanks, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 13:40:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22F5106564A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 13:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E178FC08 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 13:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so4792377fxm.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 06:40:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=lPlJhe5A3WRMYolPJnSWIbw8pF/yfC0KwnFvkNAhlhk=; b=CnE2Miuq/iJmCwQu2BzchMcByCa0qfDFntRHnkdj5DSnyteDayZCNfCKNqnU9dhOQj 29qcVSTtqvG31rPAVFQzbouwOcsfvMDQYTCi34JGoygPssjCh/uO6X/IA/CsvpGZleaI MATNXiHAVq7pHhVjY6nvI+Wkq8iMLGmQFGc8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=tDBBgdK1EGkzAjti2Yam9bkrrcC30VtmKNLbeLNn5uuP3SLTC+YIezHRwGUDC6nFLF t74dmXA3WPO4bxOSwk2I21w+oSNUHYwat5oR+qx56YnzyRiOmuU/gnjHmQ2vJtSfWXg9 asJm0fL5PboN3XM+U3iDaAgzadq+Ob9izC0u0= Received: by 10.223.64.66 with SMTP id d2mr2385125fai.116.1304257219089; Sun, 01 May 2011 06:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.xvoid.org ([213.132.76.142]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o17sm1471008fal.1.2011.05.01.06.40.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 May 2011 06:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.xvoid.org (yuri@procyon.xvoid.org [IPv6:::1]) by procyon.xvoid.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p41DeFj4032212; Sun, 1 May 2011 17:40:15 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by procyon.xvoid.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p41DeEGt032211; Sun, 1 May 2011 17:40:14 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: procyon.xvoid.org: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:40:14 +0400 From: Yuri Pankov To: Alejandro Imass Message-ID: <20110501134014.GA77191@procyon.xvoid.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Monthly Login Accounting Report - What do the numbers mean? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 13:40:20 -0000 On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 09:17:33AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > Doing login accounting: > > total 726.98 > > aimass 508.96 > > cctun 216.80 > > cmm 0.84 > > delco 0.37 > > hugo 0.01 > > > > What do these numbers mean? Is it login times? How can you login 0.01 > times??? I know for a fact that in April hugo logged in exactly 1 time > to do an scp of a large file. Are these numbers percentages ? guess > not because there would be no total! It's ac(8) output, and those number are (quoting manpage) "accumulated connect time (in hours) for all logins". HTH, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 14:45:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78861106566B for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 14:45:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from denprog@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BAA8FC0C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 14:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi11 with SMTP id 11so2204795pxi.7 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 07:45:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sB33RyyNtR4JTlNhpUUHhjNONhZ0+Z3yjSr53KH6sdI=; b=r6Xk3WC6rYQ9mA7kC5+ECU2Q/L2m2pJI6FnUKNVJYXCgDpC2+zbo+E+7KNrqbhxKQ2 R+PafpvAOujm1utXOJlz97lBagN69pGMUaj+H9VY/Vk2S5OZHW2wUUKOj5+Cf9zIy1oO jOLIujG3/YODv1Ze8+NqBf4BJZfLqG1bY3WzY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hhO2OGGuvv7yOZpGFdDf5WXba+NtPUrtF2SZ2mzN+Dk/fsjEpz2pZb8jSJUdSeXdJe 30IrpbQGCsRXvZj6FOM3qlt13J1ylT3+Z1Ju5FQdhSDGdwzxAY6g3CS9K+C2XlSBK7rk +OLcA81FAk9Ge8DsLXDkjjxhdtjzKqIaLuuo4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.68.203 with SMTP id y11mr6383219pbt.487.1304261127855; Sun, 01 May 2011 07:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.49.130 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 07:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 20:45:27 +0600 Message-ID: From: Denis Rybakov To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 01 May 2011 15:10:01 +0000 Cc: Subject: dcvs passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 14:45:28 -0000 -- How I may stay commiter? Where I may get passwd on ssh,dcvs,pcvs,svn? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 16:15:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E0D106564A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 16:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A3E8FC14 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 16:15:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QGZIS-0001Zr-Li for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 18:15:00 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.85.36]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 18:15:00 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 18:15:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 12:18:02 -0400 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <20110501071035.1d52818e@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: NVIDIA-driver-173 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 16:15:05 -0000 Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 > Arthur Barlow articulated: > >> Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? I >> tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from >> NVIDIA. No joy. Does anyone know of other possibilities? > > You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of > your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the > latest version in the posts system, "nvidia-driver-256.53_1"? I believe > that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06, > but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want > to check with regarding that. > > All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on: > . > Also in /usr/ports/x11 are the ports for nvidia-driver, nvidia-driver-71, nvidia-driver-96, and nvidia-driver-173. It is unclear what/which may have been tried. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 16:53:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E696106566C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 16:53:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) Received: from csmtp3.one.com (csmtp3.one.com [91.198.169.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542A38FC0C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 16:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from diamond.diamondbox.dk (0x4dd7c703.adsl.cybercity.dk [77.215.199.3]) by csmtp3.one.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A01B424062D7; Sun, 1 May 2011 16:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4DBD8B61.8040605@diamondbox.dk> Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 18:33:37 +0200 From: Nikolaj Thygesen Organization: diamondbox.dk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110430 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Powell References: <20110501071035.1d52818e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NVIDIA-driver-173 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 16:53:19 -0000 On 05/01/2011 18:18, Michael Powell wrote: > Jerry wrote: > >> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 >> Arthur Barlow articulated: >> >>> Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? I >>> tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from >>> NVIDIA. No joy. Does anyone know of other possibilities? >> You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of >> your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the >> latest version in the posts system, "nvidia-driver-256.53_1"? I believe >> that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06, >> but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want >> to check with regarding that. >> >> All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on: >> . >> > Also in /usr/ports/x11 are the ports for nvidia-driver, nvidia-driver-71, > nvidia-driver-96, and nvidia-driver-173. It is unclear what/which may have > been tried. > > -Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > 270.41.06 was released around a week ago, and runs fine here. The version in ports hasn't been updated for several releases. br - Nikolaj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 17:01:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE481065672 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 17:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849DA8FC1B for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 17:01:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so5878822iyj.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 10:01:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hkpwulvz7jTUUscfpliMvauwEndUkZ3rLT2srRpsb8k=; b=KWPiwikW/mv0h/2eh/AeaOLivxLn8SB5lcuw8oa7PBeR/Q9JgwxULqAhNlLm/xU3vU G2XtoBQlRO2Mc+d5F8jGdVbd0mtTIM9mKgWJRi5ZHWvdPUwkeprsnETWc6QftlwL4xqK oFFRou9cnFIDvS1T4iDGRwcs1lh2kJpB1zdXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B1bllzyqkIN6rn1MLcPbylpDXulQ88cjswLK933WcYtmjGvrXfgtId2nUalgiEv77s gjzRh6oolofMtqP/7/cNtXGameYbESvPDrPprH36T7KJNRwW9QqpWNWx+dZb2YH3McaS agLR+dTqWl5/9mTQAAORG00oCjYHsHTKNwhFg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.34.4 with SMTP id j4mr5946852ibd.83.1304269306832; Sun, 01 May 2011 10:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.170.136 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 10:01:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110501120032.C345E10656FE@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20110501120032.C345E10656FE@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 10:01:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: Arthur Barlow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: jerry@seibercom.net Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 360, Issue 10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 17:01:47 -0000 >> Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? =C2=A0I >> tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from >> NVIDIA. =C2=A0No joy. =C2=A0Does anyone know of other possibilities? > > You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of > your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the > latest version in the posts system, "nvidia-driver-256.53_1"? I believe > that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06, > but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want > to check with regarding that. > > All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on: > . > > -- > Jerry =E2=9C=8C > jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Sorry. I should have mentioned that I'm using a GeForce FX 5200 card. Because of it's "age", NVIDIA says that it need the the "nvidia-driver-173...", but NVIDIA also says they do not have a version that works for FreeBSD 8.x. I was hoping someone in the FreeBSD community might have ported it. Unfortunately, I'm no video card hacker. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 18:03:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0746106564A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 18:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38498FC0A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 18:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxc34 with SMTP id 34so5094890vxc.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 11:03:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.66.66 with SMTP id d2mr1613763vdt.25.1304273002557; Sun, 01 May 2011 11:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.163.39 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 11:03:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.190.76] In-Reply-To: References: <20110425151846.0a5359fd@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 20:03:22 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Modulok Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Password theft from memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 18:03:24 -0000 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Modulok wrote: > I know that each process has its own private memory segment, but after a > process exits, it nolonger owns that memory. What happens to it? If it's not > zeroed out by my process, and it doesn't turn into pixie food, and it's not > zeroed out by malloc... it still exists somewhere. If I understand this correctly, when a process exits, the kernel reclaims its address space and inserts it into its own address space (i.e. in a free list). At this point, the pages are NOT (yet) zeroed out, they're merely detached from the exiting process and attached to the kernel's free list. Optionally, they may be zeroed in some time in the future, when a special kernel thread pre-zeroes some pages there for faster allocation later. In any case, when a new process starts and tries to mmap(2) those pages, the kernel VM will lazily zero them out one by one upon first access by the process. So, unless you access /dev/kmem to read virtual kernel memory directly, you have NO way of getting access to the old data, even when it is not yet zeroed. And as long as the permissions on /dev/kmem are sensibly set, only privileged processes could access kernel virtual memory. Coming to think of it, there's another exception besides /dev/kmem: a kernel module runs with kernel privileges, and has access to the pages (of all processes, and of the kernel including those on the free list). But this is to be expected: a KLD becomes a part of the kernel when loaded. > Maybe this would be best on hackers? > -Modulok- -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 21:03:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F01D1065672 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 21:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BF68FC0A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 21:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so5054194wyf.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 14:02:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IMJS747mgJSHn7eM0tWkmSHkSzePbl/AwZP2QNQsMH8=; b=E3gd+PbdWu2DMDimfILzPyxAXP5VXeq7MTYUSe6CuVOYuTw/AeE7VpLdXBG9AyDZY3 EDiR9O518blDKl1ApEBbIPPXc0BgFLH7/n2rdqu0kR9B8gNXLj3aGDaNZTQbfSeXqlnD 4a5PH/qgummWbM8MrfGTReiMet8TczvcSI8s4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kwqTi0O1fO/N9i66QHxJZoA768X3JbM+qLKahT2oxqLfYZUA2dWVv+6JiZBxZrlBKe 3KGYFegJJh1LAH4rTYxrnlu9LYLybt+xTGOzAWieaQ1yoMZhvF8mJZTUXH6ANxBm8wVR ngaI4Pq8fOvcxWjGAXkm6R5d8mgBSUcDh0eVE= Received: by 10.227.7.87 with SMTP id c23mr3257862wbc.108.1304283778551; Sun, 01 May 2011 14:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o23sm2998967wbc.27.2011.05.01.14.02.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 May 2011 14:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 22:02:53 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110501220253.242dc399@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20110501120032.C345E10656FE@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 360, Issue 10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 21:03:00 -0000 On Sun, 1 May 2011 10:01:46 -0700 Arthur Barlow wrote: > Sorry. I should have mentioned that I'm using a GeForce FX 5200 card. > Because of it's "age", NVIDIA says that it need the the > "nvidia-driver-173...", but NVIDIA also says they do not have a > version that works for FreeBSD 8.x. I was hoping someone in the > FreeBSD community might have ported it. Unfortunately, I'm no video > card hacker. nvidia-driver-173 doesn't work on amd64. If that's your issue then you may be better-off with the i386 version of FreeBSD. FreeBSD 8.x added the kernel features require by nvidia before they would implement a 64-bit version, but nvidia-driver-173 was already a legacy driver at that point. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 21:57:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D1E106564A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 21:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave-freebsd@pooserville.com) Received: from smtp.pooserville.com (mail.pooserville.com [69.26.223.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B74E8FC08 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 21:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.pooserville.com) by smtp.pooserville.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id LKJCG6-0001KJ-L7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 16:16:54 -0500 Received: from [24.27.124.167] (account dave-sa@pooserville.com HELO [192.168.74.51]) by mail.pooserville.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 943800 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 16:16:54 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.10.0.110310 Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 16:16:49 -0500 From: Dave Pooser To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Ongoing JRE support in FreeBSD? Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Ongoing JRE support in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 21:57:18 -0000 I'm planning on setting up a machine to run a Java server app, and the OS candidates are CentOS or FreeBSD. I'd prefer FreeBSD, for reasons mostly involving ZFS and DTrace, but when I go to http://www.freebsd.org/java I notice that the binaries are certified with 6.x/7.x and the last entry in "Newsflash" is posted July 10 of 2010. This does not, on the surface, appear to be a vibrant and active project. That said, I see there are packages in the 8.2 RELEASE tree, so there's clearly some kind of work going on. I guess my question is, can I expect FreeBSD to be a solid platform for Java deployment going forward, or am I better off taking the road more traveled and deploying on Linux? -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com "Pulling together is the aim of despotism and tyranny. Free men pull in all kinds of directions.... It's the only way to make progress." -- Terry Pratchett, _The Truth_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 22:03:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D567106566B for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 22:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E424A8FC08 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 22:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so4989887fxm.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 15:03:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SBTFkLiceNyr53Kvh6huRWd7tGenrIjMzg4j2UAZtVc=; b=qeuG2rSzwEIKgrS9GVJNvSvMZ0QBdCRINOVmqUdoNbRwUfktasecWhV9B+LDYcGjOl enhlqmbYnMFJL7rCU4fFgoJ23e0fQikjEuioBG7IlvEnkDwKDJoHU74dKG70dp44DUWM 1IR+d7gwqn90icobF7clC2xwalWdWVVWsBRyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RKEy1kCb2sO7bhiC0OrJB0GV39yet02Aia++LSaVf2S5SU5/H+C4EW6ZWrY9/tuupk +G2o3dbFlBppSryXtrOYrI9zzoU+diAdtS3c+Do73j8Lb/YKPcP5g+BHE96YZFtwQZlE EE3UswTVhDOjgbqwQ+1Vd4406pp95PXQGLHdU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.106.78 with SMTP id w14mr6266533fao.35.1304287419938; Sun, 01 May 2011 15:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.20.145 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 15:03:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:03:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Dave Pooser Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ongoing JRE support in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 22:03:41 -0000 On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Dave Pooser wrote: > That said, I see there are packages in the 8.2 RELEASE tree, so there's > clearly some kind of work going on. I guess my question is, can I expect > FreeBSD to be a solid platform for Java deployment going forward, or am I > better off taking the road more traveled and deploying on Linux? > Unless you're willing to use OpenJDK, Linux is better option. The native JDK runs fine under 8, but it's patchset is severely out of date. OpenJDK has improved a lot and is a good substitute for me, but you may wish to check into it's suitability for your use. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 22:20:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013B3106566C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 22:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@johnea.net) Received: from mail.johnea.net (johnea.net [70.167.123.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0DB8FC14 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 22:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.100.166] (traveler.johnea.net [192.168.100.166]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.johnea.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2FDD173F1863 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 15:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DBDD8D2.7090808@johnea.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 15:04:02 -0700 From: freebsd@johnea.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101230 Lanikai/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ugen device continuously disconnects after upgrade to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 22:20:25 -0000 Hello, Not sure if this list is correct, or if I should post to freebsd-usb? Anyway, I have a USB connected UPS device that shows as /dev/ugen1.2 and is identified by usbconfig: ugen1.2: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=LOW (1.5Mbps) pwr=ON The device continuously disconnects an re-enumerates, as shown in /var/log/messages: May 1 14:36:57 epicenter root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x0764 product 0x0501 bus uhub1 May 1 14:36:57 epicenter kernel: ugen1.2: at usbus1 May 1 14:37:19 epicenter kernel: ugen1.2: at usbus1 (disconnected) May 1 14:37:22 epicenter root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x0764 product 0x0501 bus uhub1 May 1 14:37:22 epicenter kernel: ugen1.2: at usbus1 I had this problem before in 7.1, but it was corrected in upgrading to 7.3. Now that I've upgraded to 8.1 the problem is back. The device is listed in the device quirks: epicenter# usbconfig -d ugen1.2 dump_device_quirks | grep 0x0764 VID=0x0764 PID=0x0501 REVLO=0x0000 REVHI=0xffff QUIRK=UQ_HID_IGNORE Lack of the UQ_HID_IGNORE is what messed up 7.1, not sure what is keeping 8.1 from identifying this device. Anyone have any ideas what is wrong? Thank You! johnea From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 23:06:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC372106566B for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardehr08@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744AA8FC0C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so5285103wwc.31 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 16:06:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bv2OLhzOz61/R0Ef9lYOr6/YuGIUPRMNCiv/8wNeVHc=; b=RST0PzPF4oeYdOql0sD8Au3eQ3EBFRN+laHx7VgcGoarHmbrU1V8lPHneyEKfNls5N 3hDDKBJtrnOOoUMmgxBt5laUILHQfOxMw4q++KsKJZtKpe18xjwZ7+eCoK61+oAAHzaa kywt0HtjDv0KT9vEtwM6m9MYI9O/IKSqsaxUI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=feCkL1R4ZQTA7C+mt/jdA321Xu+TvX2zxDj2LfvuQQTGX76TPZyzgIf6GXAE+wNgB+ PSejw/B5UGVnhOaBbA3gUH4QFHMtrDhx50aBM71Nh/SZPoLJLf737jKnSyPKUSIZ/2ez G1R37ooUQr160wxKrdtRrLn2VOiPeLPKfNdek= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.145.195 with SMTP id p45mr377153wej.61.1304289791748; Sun, 01 May 2011 15:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.170.199 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 15:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:43:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: Richard Ehrlich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: py-django12 failed install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 23:06:31 -0000 When I attempt to install py-django12 on freeBSD 8.2 with python 2.6.5 already installed, I get the following: richarde@test3- /usr/ports/www/py-django12 # make install clean "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.python.mk", line 304: warning: String comparison operator should be either == or != "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.python.mk", line 304: Malformed conditional (!empty(_PYTHON_VERSION_MINIMUM) && ( ${_PYTHON_VERSION} < ${_PYTHON_VERSION_MINIMUM})) "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.python.mk", line 307: warning: String comparison operator should be either == or != "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.python.mk", line 307: Malformed conditional (!empty(_PYTHON_VERSION_MAXIMUM) && ( ${_PYTHON_VERSION} > ${_PYTHON_VERSION_MAXIMUM})) "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6452: if-less endif make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue bsd.python.mk lines 303/304 currently read: .if !empty(_PYTHON_VERSION_MINIMUM) && ( \ ${_PYTHON_VERSION} < ${_PYTHON_VERSION_MINIMUM}) bsd.python.mk lines 306/307 currently read: .elif !empty(_PYTHON_VERSION_MAXIMUM) && ( \ ${_PYTHON_VERSION} > ${_PYTHON_VERSION_MAXIMUM}) The error message warnings don't seem logical. Any suggestions? Thanks, -- RichardE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 23:11:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50B21065670 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gosand1982@yahoo.com) Received: from nm26-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97D2A8FC1C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2011 22:58:45 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.172] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2011 22:58:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2011 22:58:45 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 957806.20310.bm@omp1028.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 58710 invoked by uid 60001); 1 May 2011 22:58:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304290725; bh=Z1Ex6GbS3H6WltgC53q73tUqwmj+i7dscaYBR+cqF6o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y4JoXWZuKV8neLJZ5YmlpkFHvoYzchco6j8Hz8gFdvnHH+kl7vWU+j9rwhr1j8y5pDSwObQiQ+w6VkleVUVSDK8Pi3Z6NpU2Vhjf4I82eSefHeU+s1nQfmBPKm7ztCGNdjDUgGDZ+7oIsMlqqZlRIj1ZDVOIjLgCQRaWjhzSmyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A3FKW1+MeYbB7+GGM0k/iuRtQfwZdfJF791JCs5OA83ZgfXyIdX9cVaJ7+jtMC6moHBSWouZVIxrZyMwwZf0eCrwz2G9lWUpfmKwo6mV4Pt0g/o9uRF/Tm0FC5wOGQqVvqdm6d6e7BnRSKL6emK64dY8jnxBdlRLh7aBqRHu/Ws=; Message-ID: <761855.57021.qm@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YgK4mn8VM1lowXyexzv7jtetofcGYOH1qhQTG2Ev9YX1Ivt kNPyaRcxRmm9oLuOEotdpy3rZsWX8TX8POHjADl6Veed80_lLyXxATvd2gF. QFOkl9mZdmMGhjAMOQatKJxniOw28cbrieBnQnfkh5KoMUj2IYgF2tJ58QJ1 zIE2LJbQTlyaHe2zRzfFPYg7_LwxBimA0vXdbO_po4uOVggJW7fzMnb5IZzd _ssJSBSb8CQz0xg0e2h9g7jlS9_8vCjzu15VVMdxNXfrHcmZiWYebg2W73AJ hB35Vktx6UZBum87aTLV6H0F7tL4WAP6jw70i1UfK3Y.38_ZB01k- Received: from [12.202.173.2] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 May 2011 15:58:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 15:58:45 -0700 (PDT) From: George Sanders To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 01 May 2011 23:18:01 +0000 Subject: Any way to have login output AND use rsync/scp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 23:11:55 -0000 I have my .cshrc file run some basic netstat and 'w' commands so that when I log in, I can see at a glance what is going on on the system and notice any unusual login activity, etc. However this completely breaks both scp and rsync - they cannot function at all (apparently) with any kind of stdio output from the shell. Is there any way around this ? Is there some way to specify an alternate login shell when I use scp or rsync ? Or conversely: Is there some way for my login shell (csh) to notice that it is scp or rsync accessing the system, and skip the text output for them ? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 23:42:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204531065672 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0768FC0A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p41Ngf5w053806 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 May 2011 18:42:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 18:42:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201105012342.p41Ngf5w053806@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <761855.57021.qm@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Any way to have login output AND use rsync/scp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 23:42:37 -0000 > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 15:58:45 -0700 (PDT) > From: George Sanders > Subject: Any way to have login output AND use rsync/scp ? > > I have my .cshrc file run some basic netstat and 'w' commands so that > when I log in, I can see at a glance what is going on on the system and > notice any unusual login activity, etc. > > However this completely breaks both scp and rsync - they cannot function > at all > (apparently) with any kind of stdio output from the shell. > > Is there any way around this ? > > Is there some way to specify an alternate login shell when I use scp or > rsync ? > > Or conversely: > > Is there some way for my login shell (csh) to notice that it is scp or > rsync accessing the system, and skip the text output for them ? > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 23:56:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CEE1065672 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7F58FC15 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QGgUo-00010K-Sw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2011 01:56:14 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.85.36]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 May 2011 01:56:14 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 May 2011 01:56:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 19:59:19 -0400 Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <20110501071035.1d52818e@scorpio> <4DBD8B61.8040605@diamondbox.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: NVIDIA-driver-173 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 23:56:17 -0000 Nikolaj Thygesen wrote: > On 05/01/2011 18:18, Michael Powell wrote: >> Jerry wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 >>> Arthur Barlow articulated: >>> >>>> Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? I >>>> tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from >>>> NVIDIA. No joy. Does anyone know of other possibilities? >>> You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of >>> your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the >>> latest version in the posts system, "nvidia-driver-256.53_1"? I believe >>> that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06, >>> but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want >>> to check with regarding that. >>> >>> All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on: >>> . >>> >> Also in /usr/ports/x11 are the ports for nvidia-driver, nvidia-driver-71, >> nvidia-driver-96, and nvidia-driver-173. It is unclear what/which may >> have been tried. >> >> -Mike [snip] > > 270.41.06 was released around a week ago, and runs fine here. The > version in ports hasn't been updated for several releases. > > br - Nikolaj > Quite some time back Nvidia split the driver collections into recent and legacy. The newest latest driver package does not have any support for old cards previous to a certain time. For cards that old you must use one of the old legacy driver sets. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 00:13:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF644106564A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 00:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938F18FC08 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 00:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-56.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.56]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B453CA4C; Mon, 2 May 2011 02:13:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p420DHon005025; Mon, 2 May 2011 02:13:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 02:13:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: George Sanders Message-Id: <20110502021317.af30339c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <761855.57021.qm@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <761855.57021.qm@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any way to have login output AND use rsync/scp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 00:13:20 -0000 On Sun, 1 May 2011 15:58:45 -0700 (PDT), George Sanders wrote: > I have my .cshrc file run some basic netstat and 'w' commands so that when I log > in, I can see at a glance what is going on on the system and notice any unusual > login activity, etc. > > However this completely breaks both scp and rsync - they cannot function at all > (apparently) with any kind of stdio output from the shell. > > Is there any way around this ? Create a file ~/.login and put your commands (in sh syntax, not csh) there. This file will only be executed at interactive logins. See "man csh", section FILES for details. > Is there some way to specify an alternate login shell when I use scp or rsync ? I'm sure the login shell has to be defined by the system, usually by the /etc/passwd file, field "shell"; therefore see "man 5 passwd". > Or conversely: > > Is there some way for my login shell (csh) to notice that it is scp or rsync > accessing the system, and skip the text output for them ? I don't think so, but it should work fine when you move the commands out of the shell configuration file (which is also read by script shells AND interactive shells) to the login startup file (which is only executed if the shell is an interactive login shell). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 00:17:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536DF106564A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 00:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151128FC0C for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 00:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-56.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.56]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1959D3CA95; Mon, 2 May 2011 02:17:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p420HUna005065; Mon, 2 May 2011 02:17:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 02:17:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110502021730.f87d654f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110502021317.af30339c.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <761855.57021.qm@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20110502021317.af30339c.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: George Sanders Subject: Re: Any way to have login output AND use rsync/scp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 00:17:32 -0000 On Mon, 2 May 2011 02:13:17 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 1 May 2011 15:58:45 -0700 (PDT), George Sanders wrote: > > I have my .cshrc file run some basic netstat and 'w' commands so that when I log > > in, I can see at a glance what is going on on the system and notice any unusual > > login activity, etc. > > > > However this completely breaks both scp and rsync - they cannot function at all > > (apparently) with any kind of stdio output from the shell. > > > > Is there any way around this ? > > > Create a file ~/.login and put your commands (in sh syntax, > not csh) there. This file will only be executed at interactive > logins. See "man csh", section FILES for details. Sorry, wrote before thinking. :-) Of course ~/.login is csh syntax, as I would guess after (missed to) read the file's header which states: # .login - csh login script, read by login shell, after `.cshrc' at login. # see also csh(1), environ(7). So simply moving your commands from .cshrc to .login should be fully sufficient. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 00:47:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE307106566B for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 00:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A07E8FC08 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 00:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svmailmarshal.bytecraft.internal (svmailmarshal.bytecraft.internal [10.48.0.3]) by bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p420ATLb022848 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 10:10:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.48.0.24]) by svmailmarshal.bytecraft.internal with MailMarshal (v6, 8, 4, 9558) id ; Mon, 02 May 2011 10:10:29 +1000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 10:10:29 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <629611.69016.qm@web113601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: how to concatenate 2 pdf files to 1? thread-index: AcwGXUHn5Sq2duabSuWuaYoJDFWoowB/++nQ From: "Murray Taylor" To: Subject: RE: how to concatenate 2 pdf files to 1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 00:47:15 -0000 =20If you are using KDE try kpdftool from ports splits file / merges files / ... --=20 Murray Taylor Bytecraft Systems Special Projects Engineer P: +61 3 8710 0600 D: +61 3 9238 4275 F: +61 3 9238 4140 =20|_|0|_| "Absence of evidence =20|_|_|0| is not evidence of absence" =20|0|0|0| Carl Sagan =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dino Vliet Sent: Friday, 29 April 2011 4:57 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: how to concatenate 2 pdf files to 1? Dear freebsd userlist, here an application type of question. I have two pdf files and want to make 1 out of them by concatenating them. Does anyone have an idea how to do that on unix/linux as I don't have the pdf editor from Adobe. So fileA.pd en fileB.pdf should become fileC.pdf (where C is A+B) Brgds Dino _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110408 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=9jMDsWx+xKe1k7MiQTtfraZb4X8hU8mWteHgCHeKziI= c=1 sm=1 a=9dbVxmVYL3YA:10 a=3WPTVEtZbjMA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=5tKAl6LZhBnMgsYvvmeC/w==:17 a=-hyCGDrDAAAA:8 a=cexIBkohAAAA:8 a=odRC58kGr9J2mwOKo2QA:9 a=CQet2J5PWbJb7ReUp7MA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Er2gK3W4G3kA:10 a=5tKAl6LZhBnMgsYvvmeC/w==:117 Subject: freebsd zfs question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 00:59:10 -0000 Good Day; A week or so ago I experienced an error trying to compile openoffice.org from ports. The build failed from an error I was since able to resolve. This machine is at #>uname -r rainey 8.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p1 #2: Wed Apr 27 04:37:38 UTC 2011 michael@rainey:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL_042511 amd64 During that episode the workstation locked up and the only way to recover was to do a hard reset (power off). I then noticed during the next weekly scrub that I had increasing errors listed for the root pool during that particular scrub; # zpool status pool: tank state: ONLINE status: One or more devices has experienced an error resulting in data corruption. Applications may be affected. action: Restore the file in question if possible. Otherwise restore the entire pool from backup. see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-8A scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank ONLINE 0 0 0 ad2p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad3p1 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: 604 data errors, use '-v' for a list pool: tank1 state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank1 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad12p2 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors Tank consists of 2 300G PATA drives in a mirror. Tank1 is a 500G SATA drive I just added recently to use for data archiving. The stuff I wish to protect is backed up to a network file server manually via NFS. I have scrubbed the pool showing errors several times now with no increases or decreases in error counts. I have issued #>zpool clear tank a number of times with no change in the error count. The document listed (www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-8A) was of no apparent help for my condition. I have drives I can export to and import from but I am unclear as to whether I will be just moving the bad blocks around. Sample of the output of #>zpool status -v tank; < tank/root:<0x1097e7> tank/root:<0x1096e8> tank/root:<0x1097e8> tank/root:<0x1096e9> tank/root:<0x1097e9> tank/root:<0x1095ea> tank/root:<0x1097ea> tank/root:<0x1096eb> tank/root:<0x1097eb> tank/root:<0x1096ec> tank/root:<0x1097ec> tank/root:<0x1095ed> tank/root:<0x1096ed> tank/root:<0x1097ed> tank/root:<0x1094ee> tank/root:<0x1096ee> tank/root:<0x1095ef> > Not sure what to do with these. Why doesn't #>zpool clear tank delete these? The directory /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work was not able to be deleted after the failed build, so I moved it to /oldwork to get the port to build. /oldwork still cannot be deleted. rainey# rm -Rf ./oldwork rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/dictionaries: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/lucene/unxfbsdx.pro/bin: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/lucene/unxfbsdx.pro/misc/build: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/lucene/unxfbsdx.pro/misc: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/lucene/unxfbsdx.pro: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/lucene: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/jfreereport: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/libxslt: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/sal: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork: Directory not empty Attempts to delete the above directories fail. I've read articles about 'bit rot' and such in ZFS metadata but memtest86 completes without error on this machine's 3G of ram. I see no applicable information in dmesg or /var/log/messages. The drives have been running 24/7 since the initial incident with no increase in the error count. Thank You, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 09:05:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3451065674 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 09:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbak@inbox.lv) Received: from shark3.inbox.lv (shark3.inbox.lv [89.111.3.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63B08FC13 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 09:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.inbox.lv (pop [10.0.1.110]) by shark3-plain.inbox.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB511D62 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 12:04:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [10.2.2.50] (m0n0.serverbank.hu [62.77.131.200]) (Authenticated sender: mbak) by mail.inbox.lv (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 692B415319 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 12:04:57 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4DBE73B5.60908@inbox.lv> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 11:04:53 +0200 From: Mikael Bak User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20101027) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4DB6D082.4020907@inbox.lv> <4DB6D839.3010809@inbox.lv> <4DB704E9.7000802@fisglobal.com> <007101cc0452$471bb7d0$d5532770$@vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <007101cc0452$471bb7d0$d5532770$@vicor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: OK Subject: Re: Suddenly lots processes exits signal 11 (core dumped) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 09:05:01 -0000 Devin Teske wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robison, Dave >> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:46 AM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Suddenly lots processes exits signal 11 (core dumped) >> >> I second the idea that this is a RAM issue. >> >> Power down, ground yourself, remove and re-seat the RAM and see if the >> problem goes away. > > Here's a small ISO containing memtest86 (and more). This ISO is a "hybrid ISO" meaning that you can either burn it to CD/DVD and boot off it, or you can dd(1) it to a thumb drive and boot off that. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/druidbsd/files/Druid-0.0.iso/download > > Here's the instructions for writing it to USB (you likely already know how to write an ISO to CD/DVD): > Hi list, I would like to thank everyone who answered to this thread. An additional extra thank you to the kind list memeber who gave me instructions on how to download and build an USB version of memtest86. Needless to say that after identifying the failing memory module with memtest86 we have not had a single failure on this machine. Thank you all! Mikael Bak From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 11:00:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5513106564A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 11:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (asmtp5.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F16C8FC0A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 11:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p429ltn5018477; Mon, 2 May 2011 10:47:55 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p429lstc018470; Mon, 2 May 2011 10:47:55 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BA93A33C3D; Mon, 2 May 2011 10:47:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 10:47:54 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Arthur Barlow Message-ID: <20110502094754.GA60942@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20110501120032.C345E10656FE@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nvidia problem Digest, Vol 360, Issue 10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 11:00:06 -0000 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 10:01:46AM -0700, Arthur Barlow wrote: > > >> Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? =A0I > >> tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from > >> NVIDIA. =A0No joy. =A0Does anyone know of other possibilities? > > > > You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of > > your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the > > latest version in the posts system, "nvidia-driver-256.53_1"? I believe > > that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06, > > but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want > > to check with regarding that. > > > > All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on: > > . > > > > -- > > Jerry ??? > > jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net >=20 > Sorry. I should have mentioned that I'm using a GeForce FX 5200 card. > Because of it's "age", NVIDIA says that it need the the > "nvidia-driver-173...", but NVIDIA also says they do not have a > version that works for FreeBSD 8.x. I was hoping someone in the > FreeBSD community might have ported it. Unfortunately, I'm no video > card hacker. Arthur, I have a similar card to you and I have used: x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau I don't think it does all the 3D stuff but otherwise it works well. Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk2+fckACgkQHduKvUAgeK6N4wCffMDbk9+BHByYcdGkQxtYFPIJ bHcAnA2ezcMHj4iRwphLB7EFJ4jJixqO =mhDa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 17:58:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDD21065675 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 17:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mohammed.gamal@live.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s6.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s6.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2597E8FC18 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 17:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT127-W41 ([65.55.90.199]) by snt0-omc4-s6.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 May 2011 10:46:17 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [41.130.116.61] From: Mohammed Gamal To: Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:46:16 +0300 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2011 17:46:17.0589 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6CDDA50:01CC08F0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Ports and Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:58:21 -0000 Hi ,uname -a output: FreeBSD hti-community.co.cc 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24 :46 UTC 2011 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 1-where to get php-5.3.6.tbz and mysql cuz my ports collections doesn't exist. /usr/ports i have done installing apache2.2.17 from source but it doesn't start on boot , i also added apache22_enable="YES" to rc.conf but no effect. 2- why i can not access root account through ssh2 ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:18:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B971106564A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barry.byrne@wbtsystems.com) Received: from hermes.wbtsystems.com (hermes.wbtsystems.com [87.198.244.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3488C8FC12 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.12.4.120] (unknown [10.12.4.120]) by hermes.wbtsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DE2F0F740F; Mon, 2 May 2011 19:09:54 +0100 (IST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Barry Byrne In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:09:54 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6FFE52BE-08CD-4E66-8C09-B48B4BD2F2AB@wbtsystems.com> References: To: Mohammed Gamal X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports and Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:18:37 -0000 On 2 May 2011, at 19:06, Barry Byrne wrote: >=20 > On 2 May 2011, at 18:46, Mohammed Gamal wrote: >=20 >> 1-where to get php-5.3.6.tbz and mysql cuz my ports collections = doesn't exist. >> /usr/ports >=20 > Install the ports tree. >=20 > # portsnap fetch install Sorry - that should have been: # portsnap fetch extract - barry= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:19:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5E51065678 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:19:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045EB8FC18 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2320 invoked from network); 2 May 2011 18:19:10 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 May 2011 18:19:10 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC58750822; Mon, 2 May 2011 14:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6032B39842; Mon, 2 May 2011 14:19:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Mohammed Gamal References: Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 14:19:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Mohammed Gamal's message of "Mon, 2 May 2011 20:46:16 +0300") Message-ID: <44iptthso8.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports and Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:19:11 -0000 Mohammed Gamal writes: > Hi ,uname -a output: FreeBSD hti-community.co.cc 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24 :46 UTC 2011 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > 1-where to get php-5.3.6.tbz and mysql cuz my ports collections doesn't exist. > /usr/ports You can install the ports collection, or install the package with "package_add -r" or from (for example) ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/lang/php5-5.3.6.tbz You might want to look at the section on ports and packages in the handbook. These procedures are covered nicely. > i have done installing apache2.2.17 from source but it doesn't start on boot , i also added > apache22_enable="YES" to rc.conf but no effect. If you don't install it yourself, you need to start it yourself. You can write an rc.d(8) script, but installing from a port (or package) would install one for you. > 2- why i can not access root account through ssh2 ? Because the PermitRootLogin option is disabled by default (for good security reasons). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:23:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5361065670 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barry.byrne@wbtsystems.com) Received: from hermes.wbtsystems.com (hermes.wbtsystems.com [87.198.244.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1028FC0C for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.12.4.120] (unknown [10.12.4.120]) by hermes.wbtsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 81116F740E; Mon, 2 May 2011 19:06:23 +0100 (IST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Barry Byrne In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:06:23 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Mohammed Gamal X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports and Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:23:33 -0000 On 2 May 2011, at 18:46, Mohammed Gamal wrote: > 1-where to get php-5.3.6.tbz and mysql cuz my ports collections = doesn't exist. > /usr/ports Install the ports tree. # portsnap fetch install > i have done installing apache2.2.17 from source but it doesn't start = on boot , i also added=20 > apache22_enable=3D"YES" to rc.conf but no effect. The port version installs a startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ If you don't use the port version, you'll need to create your own Better to use the port version > 2- why i can not access root account through ssh2 ? Because it's disabled in the config as it's a security risk. Better to ssh as a normal user and use sudo/su as appropriate. If you really must, you can edit the config # vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config - barry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 22:13:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A58E1065672 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 22:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451208FC1C for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 22:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP77 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 May 2011 15:13:43 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [174.109.142.1] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([174.109.142.1]) by BLU0-SMTP77.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 May 2011 15:13:43 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3QNfzT3yP4z2CG4n for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:13:41 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2011 22:13:43.0267 (UTC) FILETIME=[32C60330:01CC0916] Subject: Why are "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 " identical on both stable & standard supfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 22:13:44 -0000 Just a quick question. Why are these lines identical "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8" in both the standard-supfile and the stable-supfile on a FreeBSD-8.2 amd64 system? Shouldn't they be different, and if so, exactly what? -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 22:47:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFCD1065674 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 22:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED6E8FC19 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 22:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so7056736iwn.13 for ; Mon, 02 May 2011 15:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.136.3 with SMTP id r3mr5370295ict.335.1304376468243; Mon, 02 May 2011 15:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tech304 (supranet-tech.secure-on.net [66.170.8.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xe5sm2266553icb.10.2011.05.02.15.47.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 02 May 2011 15:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:47:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.10 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Why are "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 " identical on both stable & standard supfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 22:47:49 -0000 Sounds like an error. stable-supfile should be RELENG_8 and if standard-supfile is supposed to be for the corresponding release (8.2) it should be RELENG_8_2 which gives you the 8.2 source with any official patches already applied to the source. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 23:01:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B6E106566B for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from louis_marrero@yahoo.com) Received: from nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 712488FC16 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2011 22:47:10 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.41] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2011 22:47:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2011 22:47:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304376430; bh=+WgEZ8xvK7Kz/S/amAUzCGpbhtvhIjuPyMYzq7SZC5A=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=pdwpKtqok4uIIDOPPoSqhHU+7eSLpY6BPODwSLXnfS4UMP4nTv7a/ulgVCejEbx8uht7n9rlQHqwT9AA4U9nEgC5OXFSI6qk395DwuEUV2EiJSQd88rN/ALjMSAWSa5mzkNA5N55kVr52sgpf7QqFCrVMDluG3wliOHZTFLneq8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 624416.27866.bm@smtp109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: from LOU (louis_marrero@108.56.200.252 with login) by smtp109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 May 2011 15:47:10 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: sOosuIWswBCoS_NvSolhd5yUo8f31GnFELI- X-YMail-OSG: g9XFnfEVM1nZJy9zA._eLaYDK19BYRe.xfOtsAV_Op5GRCd E90jBOQO7o4dRVvYQ1HAeh3vApfxDiVERWFPHH3GdsBcW00qLHFM6HQ5ZCIn ATmeX50i9zuX.SsCxsClYHRN.VouEEzwzsfs_UHxpXw9_zRY85FJmf4RNs7C xYt65E7.2TRwC80W1.B4HagG_U5Pd73LPuf7iCqoniBBcnbz3jEQCVbAOs0_ M8PiFj7E4DrucNQoQbn5cEhG.zN_ei.QckzCtff9ho2nsHPTUEvy66uMvAyf zXHcGaYsnWLN8ZgDcTNeQxb3mkMck9S0aYSBoe104H85GDbHLRpqcCMtBjP0 5ccqS7p152Vq.ygyw9.GV53E- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Louis Marrero" To: Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:47:11 -0400 Message-ID: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcwIMR2F8ba6dnKARkqUHmxdhM0jug== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:01:10 -0000 Gentlemen, I have a number of really dumb questions that I hope you might be able to shed some light on. Although I am familiar with basic computer operation, I've been trying to understand a very experienced programmer friend that mixes Linux/Unix terminology in his vocabulary under the assumption that everyone knows the language. Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", "shell terminal", "nc -u", etc. Since my friend knows that my computer is strictly MS Windows, when my friend writes down something like "In a shell terminal type nc -u 10.101.97.200 5555." it makes me wonder what I'm missing. Here are some questions that can help my understanding: 1. I know that Windows is an OS, and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD are other Operating System. My very basic question is this: Is it even possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based computer? 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with Unix or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? I'd be grateful for any information. Louis Marrero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 23:37:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C75106564A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8268FC13 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p42NbkkK032222; Mon, 2 May 2011 19:37:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:37:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Louis Marrero In-Reply-To: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> Message-ID: References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unix basics (was Re: For My Edification) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:37:48 -0000 On Mon, 2 May 2011, Louis Marrero wrote: > I have a number of really dumb questions that I hope you might be able > to shed some light on. I shall endeavor to provide dumb answers in return :^) For *good* answers, a great place to start is the Handbook, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html. In addition, I'm sure some of the many smart people on this list will speak up. Also, notice that I've changed the subject line to reflect a hint of the message's content. This list is archived, and anyone searching later migh not know to use 'edification' as a search term. > Although I am familiar with basic computer operation, I've been trying > to understand a very experienced programmer friend that mixes Linux/Unix > terminology in his vocabulary under the assumption that everyone knows > the language. > > Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use > daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the > terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", "shell terminal", "nc -u", > etc. Since my friend knows that my computer is strictly MS Windows, > when my friend writes down something like "In a shell terminal type nc > -u 10.101.97.200 5555." it makes me wonder what I'm missing. When he says "shell terminal", think "command prompt". nc is netcat, but I didn't know Windows had that. In your friend's defense, I use Windows every day (at work) and I can't always remember what things are called. Especially since MS changes terminology every now and then, evidently just for the hell of it. > 1. I know that Windows is an OS, and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD are > other Operating System. My very basic question is this: Is it even > possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing > Windows-based computer? Yes. You can either set it up for dual boot - either by adding a second hard drive, or by partitioning your existing drive if there's space - or you can run another OS within a virtual machine of some sort. The latter would need a pretty fast machine if the guest OS is to have decent performance. Having said that, I found it easier to get started using an old PC that was too slow to run a modern Windows, but perfectly fine for a GUI-free BSD. I'm typing this on an old Dell that I bought on ebay. > 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with Unix > or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? The server's admin would have to give you a shell account. Most commercial ISPs won't do that, but maybe your friend will. > I'd be grateful for any information. Hope this helps, and welcome. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 23:47:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07C1106566B for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@duanemail.org) Received: from dsmdc-mail-smtp.mcomdc.com (mail-smtp04.mcomdc.com [97.64.187.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9476A8FC13 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fc58.dubuque.org ([173.21.110.59]) by dsmdc-mail-omta-03 with bizsmtp id enZ81g00G1Gw3xZ01nZ8Ez; Mon, 02 May 2011 18:33:15 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=sB1l/blnZwjJeEoPLZPObJwRNs+h0+Ku5eqSPC7N2I8= c=1 sm=1 a=TymdA6ltPIMA:10 a=t7SsjwQDzwUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=6fRixm5YwTSEm8NrcRPlbA==:17 a=yPcFwREJAAAA:8 a=06a-7G3MRb5I1y1DfkkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=zzVMYk6FBhcA:10 a=6fRixm5YwTSEm8NrcRPlbA==:117 Received: by fc58.dubuque.org (Postfix, from userid 58) id 0901C74142B; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:33:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on fc58.dubuque.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: Reqd:5.0 Hits:-1.0 Bayes:0.5 Learn:disabled Tests:ALL_TRUSTED=-1 SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 Received: from [192.168.1.236] (unknown [192.168.1.1]) (Authenticated sender: duane@duanemail.org) by fc58.dubuque.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D6D12741427 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:33:09 -0500 From: Duane Hill X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <896229449.20110502183309@duanemail.org> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at fc58.dubuque.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Why are "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 " identical on both stable & standard supfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:47:11 -0000 Hello Carmel, Monday, May 2, 2011, 5:13:41 PM, you wrote: > Just a quick question. Why are these lines identical "*default > release=3Dcvs tag=3DRELENG_8" in both the standard-supfile and the > stable-supfile on a FreeBSD-8.2 amd64 system? Shouldn't they be > different, and if so, exactly what? Here, under /usr/share/examples/cvsup they have the correct content. Is that where you are looking? --=20 Best regards, Duane mailto:duane@duanemail.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 23:48:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB881065670 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saacnoraac@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC20F8FC1C for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so6145970vws.13 for ; Mon, 02 May 2011 16:48:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WKeDk565OSv+js1CRr33rWt5063M3NqR140sPrDgpFw=; b=sgmcFIYwWnmVLFv13wrxrVK10mIGZifnxScL8zoGMGYk+buepih+tbKcXYaAlSH2YS PUd5qVbHGHHvDMV2K2C81qJuRF1Ey2Yic38DiIOm0Rvi9mVfcOAmH+VMNZfbWU67U7Nc A8x8PtHDsscF7Yxm4VfMv0v1KKhgv6sopBWYY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=tBoP0aeVvwrTLnlfBaOdVsrKFAGoAHUOuLfwzKJ0LuVng40P9SpxyrDvtj1jM9jany Rcs455lCt8lnf/dwPfl6jvUzsQUpfLup1HQXpyyO6R2BjKNlsgbWISS8OeBZSQbyOAFB K/A+JViWHkGXRq/qNx4XfCsg9DTUi9NNI5pTU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.122.169 with SMTP id l41mr2535414vcr.37.1304378734463; Mon, 02 May 2011 16:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.200.133 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2011 16:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:25:34 -0300 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?UmlhY2sgUmFhY3bDtmVqYdee15nXm9ec15DXoNeSJ9ec15U=?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: How to remove KDE and How to install Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:48:30 -0000 Hi, I installed PC-BSD 8.2 (FreeBSD 8.2) in my laptop, I would like to know, How to remove KDE and How to install Gnome from shell. I hope to receive information from you. --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Thanks & Best Regards, Riack =D7=9E=D7=99=D7=9B=D7=9C=D7=90=D7=A0=D7=92'=D7=9C=D7=95 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 23:55:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9714F106566B for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B428FC13 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p42Nr7Av085409; Mon, 2 May 2011 19:53:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p42Nr7ZT085408; Mon, 2 May 2011 19:53:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:53:07 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Louis Marrero Message-ID: <20110502235307.GA85269@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:55:50 -0000 On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:47:11PM -0400, Louis Marrero wrote: > Gentlemen, > > I have a number of really dumb questions that I hope you might be able to > shed some light on. > > Although I am familiar with basic computer operation, I've been trying to > understand a very experienced programmer friend that mixes Linux/Unix > terminology in his vocabulary under the assumption that everyone knows the > language. > > Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use > daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the > terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", "shell terminal", "nc -u", > etc. Since my friend knows that my computer is strictly MS Windows, when my > friend writes down something like "In a shell terminal type nc -u > 10.101.97.200 5555." it makes me wonder what I'm missing. > > Here are some questions that can help my understanding: > > 1. I know that Windows is an OS, and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD > are other Operating System. My very basic question is this: Is it even > possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based > computer? Yes. In fact, the machine I am currently typing on is 'dual booted' Win XP and FreeBSD. The FreeBSD Handbook covers how to do it quite well, though it might take a little studying to begin to get the picture. One note -- you need to install the MS system first and then the FreeBSD system because MS does not like to play friendly with other systems. Study the handbook first so you have a more useful idea of what things are and then ask more questions. > > 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with > Unix or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? > I don't think I understand what you are asking here well enough to respond to this. By the way, BSD stands for Berkley Software Distribution referring to University of California at Berkley software development group which originally took the Bell Labs experiment and built it up in to a real OS and distributed it. Then there is a long soap opera of law suits and companies springing up to try and make a quick $$$buck and finally some people put a fully free version. That story has links on the FreeBSD web site too. Have Fun, ////jerry > > > I'd be grateful for any information. > > > > Louis Marrero > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 00:36:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E271106564A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 00:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCE68FC18 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 00:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so8824849bwz.17 for ; Mon, 02 May 2011 17:36:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2Kdk5aZj36Kj25URm9fE+34fFpYhQieOeTswIyAPAas=; b=sWg5uAratz5jHTYJMLoWYOBUT3wkmmO1+h7DLKz7oUzz0Yp1JwK0cUeyIoEsxTQ4lf C+fuE8UEsMLz6nR4B74+uWaDIF8cLY42UQLcmXKJCGlo1n7uaZGlKjbX/o943SswX7hg xyAvfAxzFZMw/tqZ2ZvJju4BWoU6dZWuiqF/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ScWm9DBuKa4tebRUPPKh8vRZLI54WLuIABXNAJrbzR4svr3AFuLQq4iC/htd1jg++k qxPVMb1aAeWCUjEFxMzSezgS3A8+0Z9VhICD/kM2PUFav7KmOFIIH27gjAJzz/sEicmg dUZA8Ngu5noGMagfVUS4VuTzTjbsI1vh9XXZ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.126.38 with SMTP id a38mr323675bks.195.1304382988750; Mon, 02 May 2011 17:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2011 17:36:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:36:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: =?UTF-8?B?UmlhY2sgUmFhY3bDtmVqYdee15nXm9ec15DXoNeSJ9ec15U=?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to remove KDE and How to install Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 00:36:31 -0000 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Riack Raacv=C3=B6eja=D7=9E=D7=99=D7=9B=D7= =9C=D7=90=D7=A0=D7=92'=D7=9C=D7=95 wrote: > Hi, > > I installed PC-BSD 8.2 (FreeBSD 8.2) =C2=A0in my laptop, > I would like to know, How to remove KDE >and How to install > Gnome from shell. http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html But since you are using PCBSD look for a Gnome PBI :) http://www.pbidir.com/bt/pbi/132 http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D1193 However, you are on your own :( Regards, Antonio > > I hope to receive information from you. > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Thanks & > Best Regards, > Riack =D7=9E=D7=99=D7=9B=D7=9C=D7=90=D7=A0=D7=92'=D7=9C=D7=95 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 00:44:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC08D106564A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 00:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3698FC0C for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 00:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-56.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.56]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8883CAEE; Tue, 3 May 2011 02:44:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p430iR5V003719; Tue, 3 May 2011 02:44:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 02:44:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Louis Marrero" Message-Id: <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 00:44:30 -0000 Although others have already given you excellent replies, I would like to add a few comments. On Mon, 2 May 2011 18:47:11 -0400, "Louis Marrero" wrote: > Although I am familiar with basic computer operation, I've been trying to > understand a very experienced programmer friend that mixes Linux/Unix > terminology in his vocabulary under the assumption that everyone knows the > language. You can learn about this terminology, and I can really encourage you to do so, as it is a neccessary means to access the professional parts of Linux and UNIX, and if you want to "be into IT" more deeply, there is no way around it. With those basics, you'll be able to access and under- stand _any_ UNIX(-like) operating system as they share basics and have many things in common. > Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use > daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the > terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", Berkeley Software Distribution, from which FreeBSD is derived. There are other BSDs. > "shell terminal", A dialog terminal that runs an interactive shell, a command-line processor that you use to issue commands to the system. The term's origin is the "terminal", a stand-alone device (often called "dumb terminal") that served the same purpose - communicate with the computer - without being "a real computer". > "nc -u", The netcat utility. On a UNIX system, see "man nc" (local manual page). > etc. Since my friend knows that my computer is strictly MS Windows, when my > friend writes down something like "In a shell terminal type nc -u > 10.101.97.200 5555." it makes me wonder what I'm missing. You "miss" understanding of the terminology, that's nothing bad, as you can easily learn and understand it. > Here are some questions that can help my understanding: > > > > 1. I know that Windows is an OS, In this mentioning, it refers to a family of operating systems. :-) > and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD > are other Operating System. Correct. There are many Linux (fully correct. GNU/Linux) distributions, as well as different BSDs and UNIXes. > My very basic question is this: Is it even > possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based > computer? That's easily possible. You need to do a proper partitioning of the hard disk and then install FreeBSD into a free partition. You can also make use of so-called "Live systems", a thing not common to "Windows": This is an installed and configured operating system that you boot from a CD, DVD or USB stick. You do NOT have to install it. > 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with > Unix or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? You don't usually communicate to a web server. A web server delivers web pages. What you mean is a dialog access, usually done by SSH. You can use PuTTY (on your "Windows" laptop) to access a FreeBSD system via SSH. It will show up as a terminal window to you. > I'd be grateful for any information. I may point you to the EXCELLENT documentation online: The FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ. Those are QUALITY material not comparable to anything you find in "Windows" land. If you're dealing with IT matter, you'll have no problem to determine _what_ to read. Those resources can be easily accessed through the FreeBSD web page, but can also used locally (maybe on systems without Internet or web access). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 01:18:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43511065670 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F21E8FC0A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p43181Ii045970; Mon, 2 May 2011 20:08:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 3qquyF4Ndx2U; Mon, 2 May 2011 20:07:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p4317sic045967; Mon, 2 May 2011 20:07:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 20:07:54 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110401 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Louis Marrero , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 01:18:38 -0000 On 05/02/11 19:44, Polytropon wrote: > Although others have already given you excellent replies, > I would like to add a few comments. > > I have a couple of suggestion that I've not yet seen in the thread ... and kudos to you for a] asking, and nicely done, and b] gathering your courage to give this a try. > On Mon, 2 May 2011 18:47:11 -0400, "Louis Marrero" wrote: >> Although I am familiar with basic computer operation, I've been trying to >> understand a very experienced programmer friend that mixes Linux/Unix >> terminology in his vocabulary under the assumption that everyone knows the >> language. > You can learn about this terminology, and I can really > encourage you to do so, as it is a neccessary means to > access the professional parts of Linux and UNIX, and if > you want to "be into IT" more deeply, there is no way > around it. > > With those basics, you'll be able to access and under- > stand _any_ UNIX(-like) operating system as they share > basics and have many things in common. > All I have here is a "me too". >> Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use >> daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the >> terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", > Berkeley Software Distribution, from which FreeBSD is > derived. There are other BSDs. > > > >> "shell terminal", > A dialog terminal that runs an interactive shell, a > command-line processor that you use to issue commands > to the system. The term's origin is the "terminal", > a stand-alone device (often called "dumb terminal") > that served the same purpose - communicate with the > computer - without being "a real computer". > Windows systems also have a command interpreter, though (arguably) it's hardly used and considered arcane by most users. On all the NT and later systems this is "cmd.exe". >> "nc -u", > The netcat utility. On a UNIX system, see "man nc" > (local manual page). > > > >> etc. Since my friend knows that my computer is strictly MS Windows, when my >> friend writes down something like "In a shell terminal type nc -u >> 10.101.97.200 5555." it makes me wonder what I'm missing. > You "miss" understanding of the terminology, that's nothing > bad, as you can easily learn and understand it. > > > >> Here are some questions that can help my understanding: >> >> >> >> 1. I know that Windows is an OS, > In this mentioning, it refers to a family of operating systems. :-) > > > >> and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD >> are other Operating System. > Correct. There are many Linux (fully correct. GNU/Linux) > distributions, as well as different BSDs and UNIXes. > > > >> My very basic question is this: Is it even >> possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based >> computer? > That's easily possible. You need to do a proper partitioning > of the hard disk and then install FreeBSD into a free partition. > > You can also make use of so-called "Live systems", a thing > not common to "Windows": This is an installed and configured > operating system that you boot from a CD, DVD or USB stick. > You do NOT have to install it. > > And this is the only *real* interesting input. Download Sun's Virtual machine software, "VirtualBox" (I believe they just released version 4.0.6) and you can set up a FreeBSD machine *inside* your windows machine with no need to add any additional hardware or do any repartitioning of the hard disk. >> 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with >> Unix or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? > You don't usually communicate to a web server. A web server > delivers web pages. What you mean is a dialog access, usually > done by SSH. You can use PuTTY (on your "Windows" laptop) to > access a FreeBSD system via SSH. It will show up as a terminal > window to you. > > > >> I'd be grateful for any information. > I may point you to the EXCELLENT documentation online: The > FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ. Those are QUALITY material > not comparable to anything you find in "Windows" land. If > you're dealing with IT matter, you'll have no problem to > determine _what_ to read. Those resources can be easily > accessed through the FreeBSD web page, but can also used > locally (maybe on systems without Internet or web access). +1 for the FreeBSD Handbook. Ten years ago, I downloaded it, and now scores of people in my area think I'm the guru to match all 'Nix gurus. Of course, they're all Windows users ;-) The people on this list know that I'm just a newb with 10 years of FreeBSD under my belt ;-) We look forward to assisting with your further edification :-) Kevin D. Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 01:55:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12186106566C for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.22.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDD278FC12 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28537 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 2011 01:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 3 May 2011 01:55:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=M20YpUGs8mpGD69VBkZQlMFOSh83D1Suha7EDdi8F44Xgl+1KwmXf8MTWyUL8wAVrqAgmMy5x1R4Ypv/x4Eag5GqzQDIJqAj1TpEQK3/ryeKu6tM7K0QwRQ+7VWjiFXB; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QH4pM-0004yf-0h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2011 19:55:05 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 02 May 2011 19:41:49 -0600 Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:41:49 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110503014149.GC22414@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 01:55:06 -0000 --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 08:07:54PM -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > On 05/02/11 19:44, Polytropon wrote: > > > >You can also make use of so-called "Live systems", a thing not common > >to "Windows": This is an installed and configured operating system > >that you boot from a CD, DVD or USB stick. You do NOT have to install > >it. >=20 > And this is the only *real* interesting input. Download Sun's Virtual > machine software, "VirtualBox" (I believe they just released version > 4.0.6) and you can set up a FreeBSD machine *inside* your windows > machine with no need to add any additional hardware or do any > repartitioning of the hard disk. Actually, that's Oracle's VirtualBox now. For those who may not keep up with such things, Oracle bought Sun and seems intent on pissing off all the users of the late Sun's open source software. So far, I have not seen any issues with VirtualBox on Unix-like systems since Oracle acquired stewardship of it along with everything else Sun had, though. > > > >I may point you to the EXCELLENT documentation online: The FreeBSD > >Handbook and the FAQ. Those are QUALITY material not comparable to > >anything you find in "Windows" land. If you're dealing with IT matter, > >you'll have no problem to determine _what_ to read. Those resources > >can be easily accessed through the FreeBSD web page, but can also used > >locally (maybe on systems without Internet or web access). >=20 > +1 for the FreeBSD Handbook. Ten years ago, I downloaded it, and now > scores of people in my area think I'm the guru to match all 'Nix gurus. > Of course, they're all Windows users ;-) The FreeBSD Handbook is easily my favorite BSD Unix book, and my second favorite Linux book, even though it's not technically a Linux book -- it's just that good. Of course, my favorite Linux book is my second favorite BSD Unix book as well -- because it, too, is just that good. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk2/XV0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVO3ACg53PxyERp5PISBGfiLhNEgIkf WiwAmQE0l1QsJCWedaHpX9MGM397LhDW =lL5T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 07:46:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C605106567A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 07:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471C58FC1A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 07:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-56.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.56]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B803CCA7; Tue, 3 May 2011 09:46:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p437k4a8001817; Tue, 3 May 2011 09:46:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 09:46:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Kevin Kinsey Message-Id: <20110503094604.efec8f3b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Louis Marrero , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 07:46:07 -0000 On Mon, 02 May 2011 20:07:54 -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > On Mon, 2 May 2011 18:47:11 -0400, "Louis Marrero" wrote: > >> Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use > >> daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the > >> terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", > > Berkeley Software Distribution, from which FreeBSD is > > derived. There are other BSDs. > > > > > > > >> "shell terminal", > > A dialog terminal that runs an interactive shell, a > > command-line processor that you use to issue commands > > to the system. The term's origin is the "terminal", > > a stand-alone device (often called "dumb terminal") > > that served the same purpose - communicate with the > > computer - without being "a real computer". > > > > Windows systems also have a command interpreter, I didn't claim they haven't. :-) > though (arguably) it's hardly used and considered > arcane by most users. On all the NT and later systems > this is "cmd.exe". There also is an additional tool called something like "Power shell" (not fully sure, I'm not a "Windows" person) that is more like a UNIX shell than CMD.EXE, which has its origins in the COMMAND.COM of DOS - not the _real_ DOS of course. :-) Using a command line interpreter in "Windows" violates the "concept" of that specific environment, so its hardly known that it even does exist. Also "detaching" control from a "Windows" system isn't something typical (e. g. starting jobs on a computer that you're currently not sitting infront of), but I think it's possible to do so, via some kind of remote access, RDP-based. At least it's comparable. > >> My very basic question is this: Is it even > >> possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based > >> computer? > > That's easily possible. You need to do a proper partitioning > > of the hard disk and then install FreeBSD into a free partition. > > > > You can also make use of so-called "Live systems", a thing > > not common to "Windows": This is an installed and configured > > operating system that you boot from a CD, DVD or USB stick. > > You do NOT have to install it. > > > > > > And this is the only *real* interesting input. Download > Sun's Virtual machine software, "VirtualBox" (I believe > they just released version 4.0.6) and you can set up a > FreeBSD machine *inside* your windows machine with > no need to add any additional hardware or do any > repartitioning of the hard disk. Good advice, I didn't think of this primarily, simply because I'm neither a "multi-booter" nor a user of software that runs on any "Windows". Using a virtualized environment gives you the chance NOT to deal with hardware issues in the first place, while keeping your disk content fully intact. System power and disk space shouldn't be any problem today. This reminds me to the following link I have in my "bookmarks box": How about trying VirtualBSD? http://www.virtualbsd.info/ Although the homepage states it's primarily intended for VMWare, it should also work with VirtualBox (see navigation tab on the right). > >> I'd be grateful for any information. > > I may point you to the EXCELLENT documentation online: The > > FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ. Those are QUALITY material > > not comparable to anything you find in "Windows" land. If > > you're dealing with IT matter, you'll have no problem to > > determine _what_ to read. Those resources can be easily > > accessed through the FreeBSD web page, but can also used > > locally (maybe on systems without Internet or web access). > > +1 for the FreeBSD Handbook. Ten years ago, I downloaded > it, and now scores of people in my area think I'm the guru to > match all 'Nix gurus. Of course, they're all Windows users ;-) I would like to add the excellent manpages of the system. Unlike many Linusi, those manpages are kept current by the FreeBSD operating system developers and their documentation assistants. So whenever you're not fully sure about something, use "man Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75306106566C for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 08:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7058FC13 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 08:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so6234564wyf.13 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 01:13:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QcgJpB9MQMnxzha/buSqhtTzu8oUh3n8cf4qURYqMt0=; b=mSQhGOJGOOLP3rfnNVKPS78eC0uQem7dTMQctqUQQZFzGq/n0uOWwHCD/BeOIYLPf6 GBiDHJvmDdrArql0SHMtt73PzKFuKAm8G0Pw9Nabshhny50Fnc+0YZEloL4b5BBvYxbn khqIe1lFH7LEVAOOmEiEJrJDF8YRu6L7y5nN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lxMP5FmGCl7M/aqWVqMJ6eZhJz91C6A1XRUYCyD0X/e6bO2tG7j9CgRnu5CPYyX0kF u0qFmkZFB4YZZtYgD5Bt57DVG8gtBQVFl7tzUxyWytgrHAnlNRjcSk4QN/GxIDZkmbCx CQQ77pxzJWdtXsYeXNYEnQJgsaS2oOyuPSBtQ= Received: by 10.227.183.76 with SMTP id cf12mr3542559wbb.66.1304410400012; Tue, 03 May 2011 01:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (wifi-osiris-sec-180-231.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.180.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w12sm2202801wby.24.2011.05.03.01.13.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 May 2011 01:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DBFB8F1.4050504@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 10:12:33 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110429 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Get the dev.cpu.0.temperature from sysctl(3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 08:13:21 -0000 Hello, I would like to get the dev.cpu.0.temperature node from sysctlbyname(). It seems this node is an opaque type but how to check it and store it to the appropriate variable type ? Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 08:35:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B701065673 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 08:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nzp@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [204.13.164.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDE08FC24 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 08:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from spoonbill.riseup.net (spoonbill-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5292618D584; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: nzp@spoonbill.riseup.net) with ESMTPSA id E53FB9F6C Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 10:15:39 +0200 From: Nikola =?utf-8?B?UGF2bG92acSH?= To: Louis Marrero Message-ID: <20110503081539.GA52916@sputnjik.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Louis Marrero , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 08:35:45 -0000 On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:47:11PM -0400, Louis Marrero wrote: > > Here are some questions that can help my understanding: > > > 1. I know that Windows is an OS, and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD > are other Operating System. My very basic question is this: Is it even > possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based > computer? > Others have given you fine answers so I'll just point out something I think might be a good advice for a Unix novice: if you decide to install a Linux try to go with one of the more "traditional" distributions (I've recently read someone call then "time wasters" :)) like Slackware, Arch Linux or similar. The reason is they don't encourage you do do stuff the Windows way (like, for example, Ubuntu does). If you need to learn about Unix you'll learn much faster and better in such an environment. Both Slackware and Arch are BSD styled which is a little unusual in the Linux land. Of course, it's probably better to get the real thing and install one of the BSDs, FreeBSD probably being the sanest choice for a newcomer because of it's outstanding documentation (The FreeBSD Handbook is really a clear step-by-step guide to FreeBSD, and doesn't assume any prior Unix knowledge). > > > 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with > Unix or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? > There is a number of servers that offer free shell accounts (a web server is a different thing) so you can practice and learn even without installing anything but PuTTY (an SSH client for Windows). I've never used any of them so I can't recommend any particular, but you can find a list of such servers on http://shells.red-pill.eu/ (it seems there are a few of them with FreeBSD). -- What is love but a second-hand emotion? -- Tina Turner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 11:32:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E638D106564A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 11:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62928FC19 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 11:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F64399; Tue, 3 May 2011 07:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 07:32:58 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: Polytropon , Louis Marrero Message-ID: <17F138516AEC9FE14F4A4B1A@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <20110503094604.efec8f3b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> <20110503094604.efec8f3b.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 11:33:00 -0000 --As of May 3, 2011 9:46:04 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said: > I would like to add the excellent manpages of the system. > Unlike many Linusi, those manpages are kept current by the > FreeBSD operating system developers and their documentation > assistants. So whenever you're not fully sure about something, > use "man files, kernel interfaces, library calls and maintenance > procedures. *Everything* is well documented. And you don't > even need Internet access to get that information, as the > manpage doesn't direct you to some arbitrary Wiki on the > web. :-) --As for the rest, it is mine. And, vice-versa, you don't need a FreeBSD box to read them, if you have the web: They are all posted online at for you to read. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 12:04:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907BC1065672 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from si_soso@yahoo.fr) Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm4.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.182.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 059378FC08 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.183.180] by nm4.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2011 12:04:09 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.166] by tm11.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2011 12:04:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2011 12:04:09 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 794960.35236.bm@omp1007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 17625 invoked by uid 60001); 3 May 2011 12:04:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1304424249; bh=xhnpdOYJ5YGE+FUQslYlRBXb1SAXxMmZNB90HNA4Ckw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6wO1LfwJHviuJ10OKYJUeU3J6yuvGq2UERM9eS1j67qp1mEhfq7AJQAVFFh3VbLg6kxo3g1VrhJiclROx90/6ILY4FqCkUHzIoo98SHtLvp4jnrwso9rZrKYObLZ0CQWengrCn1T1kt+UEULzFTETGxZdhZmVQJoty537sN9uXk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4+JG9poJS8zfDz/OzpbSjFwFuMpskzsoKabPffj/fAPB29kvMiKOsxxx6w9oG7pJNYXJCfxEeuOy/Wku1EzUEs1o4001eDCWSHy5TofyyqQgIL6NeGucDBgVB6KsxjHCGdIf3HA9i8ndk9/WXhyPnU7VnFsXLXh0Xur1HDxkXKw=; Message-ID: <585012.89739.qm@web26705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: z8a5GigVM1m1ZYuRE3MQZMogOvLK.fsEV_9saOdCChuexx1 9yCOVvz_827ppagNvhIWP7S6KkqPvpblT4.upQ7da2woCBFYum_skTr3kFOR kqcfyaAa92fVcyqupHdpT5is.XMQYBMDBdV7ItrhcomJ_v_068CtcAyNuQXe aQinCxm7ceAQbuJU4VCsGzAYbKBI32A2iHDN8kb3GTzzzbCtVXzb6Kvwi8JS FG279vuIfOjjO_Pa0mjtogSpe9HZ3etxV.lL7I4ChSWwbBum9IbMpXVThpex .GPZjGNAyLWOO66qu00gDLDX82IHkq75u3XrWXEndIHEjJXcKhF5QWMXrkpq Z.i2v.FqNzhKq5n2DkaKEzLuJ8_k- Received: from [193.52.94.5] by web26705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 May 2011 13:04:09 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 13:04:09 +0100 (BST) From: sofiane chabane To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 03 May 2011 12:32:15 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: access an extended partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 12:04:11 -0000 =A0 Good morning, =A0 I have installed FreeBSD in a multiboot way on my PC but till now I can= 't access my extended partition. Indeed, on my PC I have 4 primary partitio= ns that I organized like this: =A0 =0A Primary partition 1 : WinRE of windows vista =0A Primary partition 2 : windows Vista =0A Primary partition 3 : FreeBSD =0A Primary partition 4 that is the extended one contains: =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=0A Logical partition 1 : wind= ows XP =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=0A Logical partition 2 : a Gn= u/Linux distribution =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=0A Logical partition 3 : Data So, the problem is that I can't access the extended partion especially the = Data one. This is my first problem. =A0The second one is this:=20 =A0I'd like to change my profil picture (on my logging screen-I'm using KDE= ) and put my personal photo for example; I have tried but kdbm inducates th= at it 's impossible to do it. =A0These are the problems I've encountered, so I hope I were concise. =A0Thank you very much for being so kind and help me to solve these problem= s. =A0=0A Best Regards =A0=20 =0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 12:37:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB57106566B for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp11.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C518FC18 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 May 2011 08:37:03 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.2.3-GA) with ESMTP id BBD27916; Tue, 3 May 2011 08:37:01 -0400 Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 May 2011 08:37:01 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19903.63213.569627.11053@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 08:37:01 -0400 To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <17F138516AEC9FE14F4A4B1A@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> <20110503094604.efec8f3b.freebsd@edvax.de> <17F138516AEC9FE14F4A4B1A@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 12:37:03 -0000 Daniel Staal writes: > > I would like to add the excellent manpages of the system. > > Unlike many Linusi, those manpages are kept current by the > > FreeBSD operating system developers and their documentation > > assistants. So whenever you're not fully sure about something, > > use "man > files, kernel interfaces, library calls and maintenance > > procedures. *Everything* is well documented. And you don't > > even need Internet access to get that information, as the > > manpage doesn't direct you to some arbitrary Wiki on the > > web. :-) > > And, vice-versa, you don't need a FreeBSD box to read them, if > you have the web: They are all posted online at > for you to read. It is worth noting there are reference works - intended for those who already know something about a topic/program - not tutorials intended to teach concepts and terminology on how to do a specific task. At this point I usually recommend the most recent edition of _/The Unix System Administration Handbook/_. It is well-written; it covers flavors other than FreeBSD; and it goes into enough of the conceptual infrastructure to be very useful in diagnosing some kinds of breakage. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 14:34:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CD21065679 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45BD8FC17 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:34:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Sent-To: Received: from [192.168.1.108] (c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [68.40.255.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p43EMmJ7009936 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 10:22:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Message-ID: <4DC00FB5.7080306@msen.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 10:22:45 -0400 From: Mark Moellering User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=68.40.255.141; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=68.40.255.141; helo=[192.168.1.108] X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: shell.msen.com; Sender-ip: 68.40.255.141; Sender-helo: [192.168.1.108]; ) Subject: OT: Security question (openssl vs openssh) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 14:34:16 -0000 Everyone, I am looking into setting up a webserver to hold some very sensitive information. I am trying to figure out which is more secure, forcing any web connections to be done using an ssh tunnel or forcing ssl. I have not been able to figure out if one is definitively much more secure than another or if they are close to the same. I would have initially thought the ssh tunnel was more secure but knowing that ssl can use AES-256, I am now wondering if that isn't adding a complexity for little extra security. Thanks in advance Mark Moellering From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 14:57:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F7D106564A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:57:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@mxcrypt.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BF18FC12 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so167053wwc.31 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.239.71 with SMTP id b49mr6286927wer.107.1304434651497; Tue, 03 May 2011 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.70.21 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2011 07:57:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DC00FB5.7080306@msen.com> References: <4DC00FB5.7080306@msen.com> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 10:57:01 -0400 Message-ID: To: Mark Moellering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: OT: Security question (openssl vs openssh) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 14:57:33 -0000 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Mark Moellering wrote: > Everyone, > I am looking into setting up a webserver to hold some very sensitive > information. =C2=A0I am trying to figure out which is more secure, forcin= g any > web connections to be done using an ssh tunnel or forcing ssl. > I have not been able to figure out if one is definitively much more secur= e > than another or if they are close to the same. =C2=A0I would have initial= ly > thought the ssh tunnel was more secure but knowing that ssl can use AES-2= 56, > I am now wondering if that isn't adding a complexity for little extra > security. > > Thanks in advance > > Mark Moellering I don't think there is any extra security in tunneling an HTTP connection over SSH. Use authentication is a different matter, but the encryption algorithms are the same. Most web servers have an option of configuring what ciphers are allowed (same as OpenSSH, by the way), so you can easily restrict HTTPS connections to just AES-256 or any other cipher you prefer. The bigger issue will be how to prevent MITM attacks. With SSH, you have to make sure that the clients have the correct public key ahead of time or provide a way to verify the key during the first connection. With HTTPS you can get a certificate from an existing CA, which allows clients to verify the server identity without any extra work on your part. As an alternative, you can create your own CA and distribute the public key to the clients, which is pretty similar to SSH, except that it's much easier to change the server certificate later on. - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 15:01:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7966A1065670 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 15:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A168FC13 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 15:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10158367; Tue, 03 May 2011 11:01:32 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.232] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10158365 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 11:01:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4DC018C5.6000102@radel.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 11:01:25 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4DC00FB5.7080306@msen.com> In-Reply-To: <4DC00FB5.7080306@msen.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Subject: Re: OT: Security question (openssl vs openssh) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 15:01:33 -0000 On 5/3/11 10:22 AM, Mark Moellering wrote: > > Everyone, > I am looking into setting up a webserver to hold some very sensitive > information. I am trying to figure out which is more secure, forcing any > web connections to be done using an ssh tunnel or forcing ssl. > I have not been able to figure out if one is definitively much more > secure than another or if they are close to the same. I would have > initially thought the ssh tunnel was more secure but knowing that ssl > can use AES-256, I am now wondering if that isn't adding a complexity > for little extra security. > > Thanks in advance > > Mark Moellering I'd say that that's a really hard problem to answer definitively, but my gut reaction is that the less complex solution is less likely to involve configuration screw-ups which compromise security. Particularly if other administrators are or will be involved, that which is too clever just begs for innocent, even if clueless, changes that compromise assumptions upon which the security depends. In any case, I'd worry more about how I handle user authentication and authorization than squeezing the last little drop of warm fuzzies out of the encryption setup. To the extent that if you already have a fully trusted infrastructure in place for ssh keys, you might want to consider using ssh tunnels for that reason alone. Or, to put it another way, if your security is going to fall, it's much more likely that it's going to involve a poor configuration choice, a user that screws up big time, or a "back door" to the data, than a successful "technical" attack against TSL or SSH. --Jon Radel jon@radel.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:34:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352651065672 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 16:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F143B8FC14 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 16:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10345 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 2011 16:34:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 3 May 2011 16:34:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=A/tkLcKcBti9M1eYpenFjOmvkVrlXl2PRHEchnKD9TtXTbfISDyVbEfrq8w3bl1B8ZbKcTUf+wSo9gJsrHmjDE/OglwK/T+9oqIp66WseyUHkxmunHj0iX0VKkcA7uFN; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHIYX-0003rZ-6l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 10:34:38 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 03 May 2011 10:21:21 -0600 Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 10:21:21 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110503162121.GH25377@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> <20110503094604.efec8f3b.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Yia77v5a8fyVHJSl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110503094604.efec8f3b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 16:34:39 -0000 --Yia77v5a8fyVHJSl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 09:46:04AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > There also is an additional tool called something like "Power shell" > (not fully sure, I'm not a "Windows" person) that is more like a UNIX > shell than CMD.EXE, which has its origins in the COMMAND.COM of DOS - > not the _real_ DOS of course. :-) It's *not* really much like a Unix shell, actually. For instance, it doesn't have the Unix pipeline (which cmd.exe *does* have). Instead, it assumes everything you'll be passing around in it is basically a serialized object in the tradition of the .NET framework. It is, in short, more of a glue code development tool for .NET developers than a proper command shell. You can abuse it as a command shell if you want to, but in my experience the REPL for the R6RS (Scheme) implementation called Ypsilon serves as a better command shell than PowerShell. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Yia77v5a8fyVHJSl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3AK4EACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVXcACfZwW/QEBQFKfeJ42WSq3Ebqdc 2XgAoNhsecf8ylJ+wb5dKvMFMQ6L2PJL =0SLM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Yia77v5a8fyVHJSl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 17:16:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB411065673 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 17:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A64A8FC1B for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 17:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-96-236-232-63.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [96.236.232.63]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1017545D7B for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 042C75C1D for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:40:37 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110503124037.a4469206.web@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: /etc/newsyslog.conf and denyhosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: