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Date:      Wed, 13 May 2020 10:59:50 -0500
From:      Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: mailman 3 on FreeBSD- or mailman replacement?
Message-ID:  <8613e709-791e-c09a-06d7-c8505d556327@kicp.uchicago.edu>
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On 5/13/20 10:48 AM, matthew@FreeBSD.org wrote:
> On 13/05/2020 15:48, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> I'm sure I'm not the only one who runs mailman on FreeBSD servers. Now 
>> that python 2.7 is about to go, mailman 2 will follow. There is 
>> mailman 3 that is based on python 3. There is, however, no mailman 3 
>> port. I wonder if someone already asked mailman port maintainer about 
>> mailman 3. I do not like to bother busy person(s) if someone already did.
> 
> There's a long thread about this already on the freebsd-ports@ list, 
> starting with this message:
> 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2020-April/118351.html
> 
> and there's this PR:
> 
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=225543
> 
> The problem is that mailman3 is apparently badly documented; has been 
> rewritten in a way significantly incompatible with existing mailman2 
> setups and despite being 5 years old, is still missing some important 
> functionality that mailman2 has.

Thank you, Matthew! You really summarized for lazy person - me - the 
situation. Whereas mailman2 was brilliantly written by brilliant 
programmers - even with use of "sneaky snake" python, mailman3 is not 
such. Maybe, the programmers team has changed. Or maybe - like in 
Mozilla Foundation - the jumpy nonsense "production director" came 
there... All in all, this just confirms the vitality of second question:

What is best replacement for mailman? What to migrate mail lists to?

Valeri

> 
>      Cheers,
> 
>      Matthew
> 
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Valeri Galtsev
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Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
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