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Date:      Mon, 4 Jun 2007 14:11:54 -0400
From:      Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
To:        Zbigniew Szalbot <zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: total system freeze - where to look for more information
Message-ID:  <20070604181154.GA69350@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4664543C.5050109@szalbot.homedns.org>
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On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 08:04:44PM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Jerry McAllister pisze:
> 
> >On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 07:35:11PM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
> >
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>Zbigniew Szalbot pisze:
> >>
> >>>Dear all,
> >>>
> >>>Today - for the first time ever - I have a total system freeze. It 
> >>>occured after 105 days of uninterrupted work. The freeze was 
> >>>unrecoverable because even though I attached a screen to the machine, I 
> >>>was not able to do anything with it. I had to hard-reboot it.
> >>>
> >>>dmesg.today has just one line (and dmesg.yestarday is empty).
> >>>
> >>>pid 25536 (portmanager), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped)
> >>>
> >>>This file was modified at night so it does not contain any useful 
> >>>information.
> >>>
> >>>Where can I look for more information? The only thing that comes to my 
> >>>mind is that today I installed denyhosts-2.6. It is possible that the 
> >>>freeze occured during dump operation which is done to a network drive 
> >>>mounted via mount_nfs option.
> >>
> >>
> >>Could the dump operation (a very likely reason for the crash) freeze the 
> >>system. I am thinking of the following scenario. The dump operation to a 
> >>network share is underway. For some reason, the LAN network connection 
> >>is unavailable for a short time. Dump freezes and never recovers as it 
> >>cannot continue its operation. I went back to the box two hours after 
> >>the dump operation had started but the box (FBSD machine) did not 
> >>respond to physically connected keyboard and screen. The dump file on 
> >>the network is shown to have 0 KB. Thanks for any info!
> >
> >If it thinks it ran out of media space (maybe doe to some network error,
> >I don't know), it could be waiting for a response at the console or 
> >whatever terminal it was running from.  It will "hang" there until it 
> >gets some input it knows how to handle.
> >
> 
> In that case I will probably be much better of using another HD 
> physically connected to the box rather than shared network drive, 
> wouldn't I? Lack of free space could not have been the reason - the 
> network share can handle about 750GB of data so it must have been 
> temporary network error.

No guarantee that is what is happening, but it seems like
it could be a possibility - at least one to eliminate.

////jerry

> 
> 
> Thanks Jerry!
> 
> ZS
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