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Date:      Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:51:02 -0600
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        Markus =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F6hr?= <doehrm@aubi.de>
Cc:        "'freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: M$ using Linux?
Message-ID:  <376B3DD6.17CB270D@softweyr.com>
References:  <AB06BBFD8AFBD111B07600805FCB119224271A@EXCHANGE>

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Markus Döhr wrote:
> 
> What do you think about that:
> 
> [root@beta ~]# nmap -vv -p119 -P0 -sT -O betanews.microsoft.com
> 
> <snip>
> Sequence numbers: E6E23C4C E7368B4F E6E0CC8D E79B4DEC E7A43C4E E76D208A
> Remote operating system guess: Linux 2.1.122 - 2.1.132; 2.2.0-pre1 - 2.2.2
> OS Fingerprint:
> TSeq(Class=RI%gcd=1%SI=3A46A8)
> T1(Resp=Y%DF=Y%W=7F53%ACK=S++%Flags=AS%Ops=MENNTNW)
> T2(Resp=N)
> T3(Resp=Y%DF=Y%W=7F53%ACK=S++%Flags=AS%Ops=MENNTNW)
> T4(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=0%ACK=O%Flags=R%Ops=)
> T5(Resp=N)
> T6(Resp=N)
> T7(Resp=N)
> PU(Resp=N)
> Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 20 seconds
> </snip>
> 
> and that?
> 
> [root@beta ~]# telnet betanews.microsoft.com 119
> Trying 207.46.180.35...
> Connected to betanews.msn.com.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 200 cpmsblns02.microsoft.com InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.2 21-Jan-1999 ready
> (posting ok).
> 
> INN running on NT?
> 
> And the most interesting:
> Quoting Alan Cox from the linux-kernel developer list:
> 
> someone asking:
> 
> > I guess that they run windows-2000 on the beta site, and then I guess is
> > that they
> > have stolen IP-code from Linux. Im right, yes ?!
> 
> <quote on>
> Unlikely. Judging by the window 2000 beta traces they run a BSD stack derivative
> close to freebsd - and the BSD license permits such use
> <quote off>

If they give credit in the copyrights.  I've never seen Microsloth 
do that.

BTW, queso reports:

	# queso betanews.microsoft.com:119
	207.46.180.35:119       * Linux 2.1.xx


-- 
       "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                 Softweyr LLC
http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr                      wes@softweyr.com


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