Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:30:37 -0500 From: Matthew Story <matthewstory@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Still having trouble with package upgrades Message-ID: <CAB%2B9ogdgutMiiuUfqVMoehkp2N-1yHe9NsCB9D7hnkUZECFXug@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAFKhKgp8ic-TA=KXVU6kBnH3UzcS3XFPeBQCX65g9%2By-CWFfyw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAGy-%2Bi-faTgPPFya8TD8rjkHG0=4E8S6Pvy2XiawXMru6z=pRQ@mail.gmail.com> <20120307175852.7de93d6f.freebsd@edvax.de> <CAGy-%2Bi8h3f4d5Omv=VZ%2BGagEnxaTNa-y6p40veRZuXR9XJusAA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGy-%2Bi8eqiiHZ6i0gFZftJ%2Bw_YE35v4QzkwgzuWvJ3%2BmMr-soA@mail.gmail.com> <20120307191246.GB2241@ankh-morpork.net> <CAFKhKgp8ic-TA=KXVU6kBnH3UzcS3XFPeBQCX65g9%2By-CWFfyw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Andrew Gould <andrewlylegould@gmail.com>wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Benjamin Tovar <ben@robotoloco.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 12:57:46PM -0500, David Jackson wrote: > >> > >> So it seems like a happy compromise here. You will get what you need > >> and us newbies and other users who really dont want the extra > >> trouble of compiling will get our binaries. Everyone gets what they > >> want and is happy, it seems. > >> > > > > Yes, this sounds awfully good, except that I think it is much harder > > than you think. First, some options are mutually exclusive > > (i.e. ncurses vs slang)... so, maybe there are two, or three versions > > of the same package... and again, this sounds awfully good, except for > > the limited and volunteered time of a port maintainer. A happy > > compromise might be then to have binary packages of popular ports, > > which is how we have it now. > > > > Second, and I think this the most important reason, ports put the > > responsibility of the system on the user. They force you to make > > decisions on exactly what software is installed. You want the > > stability and freedom of FreeBSD without this responsibility, and this > > seems very hard to compromise (e.g., macosx and most linux > > distributions remove the responsibility by making all these choices > > for you). > > > > Is this newbie friendly? Probably not. Does it need to be? Well, it > > would be nice if more people use it, but if we remove the > > responsibility from the user, then it would not be FreeBSD, it would > > be something else. (Like Debian GNU/kFreeBSD, which sounds like what > > you are looking for.) > There is a port of apt (sysutils/apt) which you can install, and use to maintain your system via apt repositories. Not sure if anyone is maintaining an apt repository out in the world, for use with FreeBSD. > > > > -- > > Benjamin Tovar > > > > It is not newbie friendly. As a non-techie (CPA), however, I can tell > you that it makes the user a better user; and **that** is a good > thing. Some things are worth doing. > > :-) > > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- regards, matt
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