Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 20:33:21 -0500 From: Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS... Message-ID: <b0fa0f8e-dc45-9d66-cc48-c733cbb9645b@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: <A7928311-8F51-4C72-839C-C9C2BA62C66E@sorbs.net> References: <30506b3d-64fb-b327-94ae-d9da522f3a48@sorbs.net> <CAOtMX2gf3AZr1-QOX_6yYQoqE-H%2B8MjOWc=eK1tcwt5M3dCzdw@mail.gmail.com> <56833732-2945-4BD3-95A6-7AF55AB87674@sorbs.net> <3d0f6436-f3d7-6fee-ed81-a24d44223f2f@netfence.it> <17B373DA-4AFC-4D25-B776-0D0DED98B320@sorbs.net> <70fac2fe3f23f85dd442d93ffea368e1@ultra-secure.de> <70C87D93-D1F9-458E-9723-19F9777E6F12@sorbs.net> <CAGMYy3tYqvrKgk2c==WTwrH03uTN1xQifPRNxXccMsRE1spaRA@mail.gmail.com> <5ED8BADE-7B2C-4B73-93BC-70739911C5E3@sorbs.net> <d0118f7e-7cfc-8bf1-308c-823bce088039@denninger.net> <2e4941bf-999a-7f16-f4fe-1a520f2187c0@sorbs.net> <CAOtMX2gOwwZuGft2vPpR-LmTpMVRy6hM_dYy9cNiw%2Bg1kDYpXg@mail.gmail.com> <34539589-162B-4891-A68F-88F879B59650@sorbs.net> <CAOtMX2iB7xJszO8nT_KU%2BrFuSkTyiraMHddz1fVooe23bEZguA@mail.gmail.com> <576857a5-a5ab-eeb8-2391-992159d9c4f2@denninger.net> <A7928311-8F51-4C72-839C-C9C2BA62C66E@sorbs.net>
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This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030405040800090701020109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 4/30/2019 19:14, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > > Michelle Sullivan > http://www.mhix.org/ > Sent from my iPad > >> On 01 May 2019, at 01:15, Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> wrote: >> >> >> IMHO non-ECC memory systems are ok for personal desktop and laptop >> machines where loss of stored data requiring a restore is acceptable >> (assuming you have a reasonable backup paradigm for same) but not for >> servers and *especially* not for ZFS storage. I don't like the price = of >> ECC memory and I really don't like Intel's practices when it comes to >> only enabling ECC RAM on their "server" class line of CPUs either but = it >> is what it is. Pay up for the machines where it matters. > And the irony is the FreeBSD policy to default to zfs on new installs u= sing the complete drive.. even when there is only one disk available and = regardless of the cpu or ram class... with one usb stick I have around h= ere it attempted to use zfs on one of my laptops. > > Damned if you do, damned if you don=E2=80=99t comes to mind. > Nope.=C2=A0 I'd much rather *know* the data is corrupt and be forced to restore from backups than to have SILENT corruption occur and perhaps screw me 10 years down the road when the odds are my backups have long-since been recycled. --=20 Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net <mailto:karl@denninger.net> /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ --------------ms030405040800090701020109 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature 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