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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i50sm55289997yhk.11.2011.12.30.06.59.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:59:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3TF9tW1rvlz2CG5x for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:59:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:59:14 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111230095914.6cc16ab2@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20111230142230.cb68d503.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20111230073958.3949a17b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111230071500.6de15cf4@scorpio> <4EFDB022.10904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20111230080510.52653cec@scorpio> <20111230142230.cb68d503.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:59:24 -0000 On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:22:30 +0100 Polytropon articulated: > >From "man iwn": > > Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965/1000/5000/5150/5300/6000/6050 > IEEE 802.11n driver So they actually got support for one such device. I refer you to which does not even list support for "n" protocol devices. I am not sure if this is an introductory level chip or used in higher end devices although I have my strong suspicions. In any case, newer and more fully functional "n" devices still lack any significant, and I use that word graciously, support. As for your inquiry as to why I don't write one myself, fair enough. I have a family to support, various organizations I work with or contribute to, etcetera. To actually invest the time (and I have no idea how much time it would entail), thereby taking it away from other ventures I am involved in, i.e "work" for example, not to mention the documentation that I would probably have to buy to learn how to actually write a driver for such a device and make it work on FreeBSD since I have never done it before, and acquire whatever other skills and material I might need all for a grand ROI of "$0" is beyond absurd. I am not a socialist asshole. I don't expect the government to bankroll me while I sit on my ass working on a hobby. If FreeBSD really wanted to make a quality product they would hire competent programmers to create the drivers, etcetera that are seriously needed. I would gladly pay any reasonable charge for a product that worked. I am not a socialist/fascist asshole and I despise those who are. Other OSs have all ready gone this route. By the way, just out of morbid curiosity, how are ASLR and KMS support coming along? Doing a quick perusal it would appear that everyone but FreeBSD supports them. I am sure if I am in error and FreeBSD has full support for them you will inform me of same. Poly, you are an admitted liar. Read your own statements; you have admitted so yourself. I fail to see where continuing a dialog with an admitted liar serves any purpose. Have a Happy New Year. A year in which you can contribute to discussions regarding subjects you may or may not know anything about depending on what fabrication you had previously spewed. I wonder if the "Liar paradox" would be of interest here? Ah, so many things to contemplate in the new year. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Mind your own business, Spock. I'm sick of your halfbreed interference.