From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Feb 8 13:18:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03895 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:18:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hyperhost.net (ether.lightrealm.com [207.159.132.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03889 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:18:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patseal@hyperhost.net) Received: from port2.annex8.radix.net (port2.annex8.radix.net [205.252.108.2]) by hyperhost.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15932; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:16:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:16:52 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Seal To: Greg Black cc: root@isis.dynip.com, ben@scientia.demon.co.uk, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help About Shell Script In-Reply-To: <19990208180330.13189.qmail@alpha.comkey.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know that perl is a pain, that's what I meant about obfuscation. It's easy to do that if you're not careful. I only use it for small 'utility like' programs or things that rely on heavy text processing. I do have Programming Python on my bookshelf just dying to be read. I'm also learning C++ because half the software I want to contribute to is written in it (like Blackbox). ------------------------------------ _____________________________________ Patrick Seal |"Microsoft isn't evil, they just make | really crappy operating systems." Hyperhost - http://www.hyperhost.net| -Linus Torvalds hosting and Design http://www.freebsd.org - http://www.linux.org On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Greg Black wrote: > > Don't worry about perl. I learned it at 14 and had it pretty well > > mastered (meaning I could Obfuscate my code for dem contests) as I turned > > 16. I also learned C about that time and now (being sixteen) am learning > > C++. Perl is *really* easy to learn. > > And when you grow up, you'll realize that neither perl or C++ is > worth learning. These languages are both absurd examples of how > not to invent a programming language. > > > Go to www.oreilly.com and get 'Learning Perl', 'Programming Perl', and if > > you're rich get the 'Perl Cookbook' too. There's also a really nifty > > Pocket Reference. > > You'll go blind if you do this -- of all currently popular > langauges, perl is the one most calculated to induce visual > dizziness. > > The real answer is to use real languages with clean and elegant > syntax and sufficient simplicity to be easy to read -- the > write-only nature of both perl and C++ means that, even when > people get something working, it's almost impossible for the > author (let alone anybody else) to make changes later without > breaking everything. The obvious examples of languages that are > worth learning are C and Python (and probably lisp). > > -- > Greg Black > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message