From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 16 16:44:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFDD3434F1 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 16:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x141.google.com (mail-il1-x141.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::141]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49mYvF694Sz4Lm0 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 16:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x141.google.com with SMTP id c75so19507818ila.8 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 09:44:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2VhsVh/Th5vB9esBXZRggwIJo7zxrxWwSirhSdN7ueU=; b=IESvaJXbWwXUh+DlJILK4YXeo+0iAKob6NDcYjl828oR3m6fL5ep5VAmOm2NwZg6pO 1JlRQRSEU2vgVluZGMVplk+hcgPGshOafOqyDN3RWA1X7DwjIK7ISAKtQOacWF/WQp+n 5bZXynBrjFPDA3+IJ8CMlKrsHac2leESipRvnFZI9pJ+l0WjpErntW+mi+cIl88cqsLF OT44BGahBVNP8tIS5hxDss/m8HKAbp1hIc95/9O0scoiqrLBhqLXodUwp2PWNjrErJN3 gGxwaNgwpf8/4kAh0+W6dvMdxpiEUYGbk0AS978vXIQW8V03sQBdQQGq5PBzisPT+EMH mC0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=2VhsVh/Th5vB9esBXZRggwIJo7zxrxWwSirhSdN7ueU=; b=AuYXYvSG5thFOM6EedOi1FyQyyZH4F4AO3LkdoxCYU/VPIHbvqUNRWCSm9tH/amroz kKv6xMpARMfCZWLsJfEf2F+dL5njdcWFKGigDZmIVpPcdwjL5uIJWMENoWTQOzXvx591 rPBC6Khgnp2jDyEuT9Mj4v9VxKZbWHUW9d2iAwzTuyX+lN6bYR+VXCjMdZKZBDmOvATM zLMUAOT/wnKTrkByxK5hIzfhMTJXnRjXxhBah+O/1vXmF8LnuPtsMNNsXXssSPjuI0N8 4j1lwzpzNDVnLsh0/TW0Vi3N4HfmRW8x/ZWNaOZ56fwP+xwr5lkWUpU0qvlk1Ojq5Ufb qNJg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533Lhx0XpniTlEi+Iiy+udtTkXLkqATaBIDekzpkiRzPT8d+Zqtx MPG3+JabWEj/us78NdnDI2lszuHSRADjpU+4bEvbUxxM X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyiDckPNJO75O13nTzsJj+xZa4eq8got8xhoy3lOC41OD3Ge3r1nxQhHVPbOMmYQ+sRkPA2SjHlXsp8OJokJWk= X-Received: by 2002:a92:d343:: with SMTP id a3mr4049107ilh.29.1592325864118; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 09:44:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200613154409.GA89618@neutralgood.org> <20200616075548.000066f1@seibercom.net> <20200616140416.bd7b8bf2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616142043.7d599458.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616144141.6203d978e9bd43418b17dcbc@sohara.org> <20200616170906.9c0bb6c7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616175118.2d536f55.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616123659.000025a6@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20200616123659.000025a6@seibercom.net> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:44:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette was freebsd vs. netbsd To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49mYvF694Sz4Lm0 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 16:44:26 -0000 On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 17:51:18 +0200, Polytropon commented: > >And instead of employing good programmers, they employ designers > >so at least the ad-filled emails look good, even if it doesn't > >help anyone. :-) > > You obviously know very little about the retail market. In sales, > perceived quality is often in a direct relationship to the outward > appearance of an item. > FreeBSD is not a retail OS!.... in short for many reasons f**k retail computing... like I said dead users don't give a flying f how good something looks if it kills them! (Just ask anyone who started smoking because of how sexy the ad models were before tobacco ads were outlawed.).... in sort FreeBSD is a mission critical OS meant for professional use (if you use for desktop use like I do then it is purely accidental to its primary purpose). -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org