From owner-freebsd-current Tue Aug 28 14:56:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F1637B445 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:56:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id B8F8D81D01; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:56:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:56:47 -0500 From: Alfred Perlstein To: aaron Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: openbios Message-ID: <20010828165647.O81307@elvis.mu.org> References: <20010828161038.N81307@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from aaron@meta.lo-res.org on Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 11:21:38PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * aaron [010828 16:19] wrote: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > * aaron [010828 15:37] wrote: > > > > > > I have been wondering if fbsd people would like to move into the > > > openbios.org direction? Well, at least I for myself would _dream_ of > > > booting my laptop and have X running in 10 seconds :)) > > > > > > I am asking because AFAIK the openbios guys replace the standard bios > > > calls with their own code (kernel, whatever). So would this acutally be > > > possible in fbsd? Are there any calls to bios routines or is everything > > > coded by hand? > > > > > > sorry if this is a bit off-topic. I was just to curious... > > > > I'm pretty sure openbios just aims to be a replacement for PC-BIOSes, > > as long as it's a drop in replacement FreeBSD should run just fine > > on top of it, there shouldn't be any modifications needed to be done > > to FreeBSD. > > yes, but AFAIK they will replace standard BIOS calls with their own > abstraction layer/calls. Now if fbsd uses some "well known" BIOS calls > which differ in the openbios abstraction layer then it wont run. so the > question boils down to: is there some black magic bios call accessing code > in the kernel somewhere (which might break then)? There shouldn't be much except perhaps the VESA stuff. As I said, if they implement a proper BIOS that can be used for windows/dos/linux then we shouldn't have a problem running on it. If we do have a problem running on it then it's most likely an openbios issue, not a FreeBSD issue. -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message