Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:35:12 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@efn.org> To: Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net> Cc: Paolo Di Francesco <paipai@tin.it>, freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Read this... Message-ID: <19990510193512.11240@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990510214434.24802O-100000@cygnus.rush.net>; from Alfred Perlstein on Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:44:56PM -0500 References: <19981210011112.EMA26585.fep01-svc@winworkstation> <Pine.BSF.3.96.990510214434.24802O-100000@cygnus.rush.net>
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Alfred Perlstein scribbled this message on May 10: > folks... it's baaaaaaaaaack... :/ yeh, I noticed incase you try it, don't: a) send mail to postmaster@fep01-svc.tin.it where this message is coming from, it doesn't exist b) send mail to poastmaster@mail.tin.it, they refuse to relay mail to themselves I have sent mail to jmb to help fix this problem and mail to postmaster@tin.it actually succeeded, but considering their dns problems I doubt they will respond, let alone actually fix the problems they have.. We can always hope though... > On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > > > > > > > > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > Will someone with more courage and experiance than I please speak up about > > > > this, perhaps contact sun? > > > > > > > > Please _don't_ ask Sun for anything until you have a working port on > > > limited hardware. I doubt that anyone following this list would be > > > prepared to spend $$$ based on what has been said so far. Those people > > > who have access to Sun machines should be able to do a port with neither > > > financial nor moral support from Sun. If you want this sort of support, > > > you have to earn it. > > > > Let me explain the meaning of the word "support" from my personal point of > > view: > > > > 1) I haven't any Sun Hardware. I'm a student and I cannot pay 3000$ for a Sun > > Ultra5, only to "play" with it. I would have an AXi motherboard (good for > > experiments) but it costs too much. So, for the hardware I would have something > > like 50% of the price (no free hardware, at actual stage). Why Sun could give > > me/us this: I have not 3000$, and actually there are few persons with an Ultra > > box, so _if_ Sun wants more developers on this project they must help in some > > way. This is the situation it's not "charity"... Please note also the word > > "Open" also means: I can buy it for a good price. > > > > 2) Docs, pdf and other things.... On Intel you can find _anything_ about "how > > it boots", "how it works", books and docs. If you go in a bookstore you can > > find many books about "everything". Not the same situation on Sparc. > > So again: "Open" means I can read "how it works" without paying 500$... > > > > 3) Moral support. Actually, if Sun (SME) will put something on-line about the > > harware we can do a good job (something that works/boots on limited hardware) > > with no moral support. We can do experiments where "I don't know how it works" > > and read where "it's documented at page..." > > > > Thanks for youe time 8) > > > > > > > > Ciao Ciao > > Paolo Di Francesco > > _ > > ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... > > ~ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > > > > -Alfred > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 541 684 8449 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 "The soul contains in itself the event that shall presently befall it. The event is only the actualizing of its thought." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message
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