From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Sep 10 17:16:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5509E151EB; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:16:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27419; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:16:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990910180210.00c06100@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:16:10 -0600 To: Terry Lambert , jlemon@americantv.com (Jonathan Lemon) From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: ANSWER: "FreeBSD" registered by Walnut Creek Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, davids@webmaster.com, winter@jurai.net, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199909102341.QAA17082@usr04.primenet.com> References: <19990910182651.54663@right.PCS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:41 PM 9/10/99 +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: >It's also annoying, because Jordan _must_ know this information >himself, and is simply refusing to provide it for whatever reason, >which just eggs Brett further on, with no end in sight. I respect >both Brett and Jordan, but it seems to me that in this case Brett >is being less resourceful than I've credited him, Nope, as mentioned earlier, I did look it up in the Thomas database. (I could have used the USPTO, too.) But trademarks can be licensed or assigned, so the database search might not tell the whole story. I was certainly expecting that Jordan or another person at Walnut Creek or FreeBSD, Inc. would speak up and clarify the issue. >while Jordan is >being more belligerant than I've credited him. I'm not sure WHAT Jordan is thinking. Certainly, he should realize that the questions I'm raising will come up at one time or another. After all, I'm sure that MANY people have thought of doing distributions, and every issue I'm raising should come up as part of the due diligence process for any such effort. So, it's a mystery to me why he is not answering them quickly, candidly, and publicly, as is fitting in an open development community. > Mostly it is my mislaid credit that annoys me, FWIW. It would annoy me as well. I see your name in some very key spots as I browse the source. >Brett is in a phase of startup where the majority of work is >legwork, and expenditure on lawyers is unwarranted. Once he >finishes the legwork, and determines that the current holder of >the trademark (or one of its licensees or consigns -- though a >consignment has to be recorded and none was) is willing to enter >into an agreement for its use, THEN a lawyer is needed to write >up the use agreement. Perhaps. It would be better, though, to have a published policy on the use of the mark. Otherwise, every new distribution would involve negotiations, lawyers, and contracts, when all involved would be more productive if they set their minds to coding, etc. --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message