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Date:      Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:14:09 -0500 (EST)
From:      Michael Bacarella <mbac@nyct.net>
To:        Dennis <dennis@etinc.com>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Is FreeBSD dead? Well, not in theory... 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.10003111306520.14049-100000@bsd1.nyct.net>
In-Reply-To: <200003101840.NAA12885@etinc.com>

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> >> >What are their alternatives?  Think about how the world is waking up to
> >> >Open Source.  Think about how companies are realizing that a small group
> >> >of paid engineers simply can't keep up with a world-wide organization of
> >> >contributors.  What would you do if you didn't feel you could keep up?

> Open Source is a lot of bunk. People want stuff that works. Linux is
> growing in popularity because since 2.2 came out it actually works well.
> Linux had the marketing in place and they are soaring. We sell 10 to 1
> linux now. I was getting bloodied pushing FreeBSD. Its like selling tax
> custs to poor people. Its bad politics, no matter how right it is.

> the people buying linux servers from VAR research and the like dont care
> about source, they care about functinality. Thats why BSDI doesnt get it.
> its not about the source, its about the price. People perceive that BSD/OS
> and FreeBSD are substantially similar in functionalty, and freebsd is free.
> The source is only important to a tiny, tiny portion of the market. The
> hackers list is not the market...corporate america is the market. 

> We all have source to the eepro driver but if DG doesnt fix it it doesnt
> get fixed. I'll take a driver that works anyday over the option to fix it
> myself. and so will most commercial entities.

The very fact that source is available means that you can pay any scruffy
unshaven hacker to fix it for you, instead of suffering at the hands and
whims of, say, a FreeBSD "vendor" as you are doing. I would figure that at
least you (of all people) realize that someone else can come in and get it
done, and that you could optionally pay someone to do this.

Open source leaves businesses in control, which is something that I've
seen more than 1 PHB consider. There's little I can do if I'm running NT
in that scenario. So, yes, I would definitely buy what works.

-MB



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