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Date:      Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:21:26 -0800
From:      Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ntpd fails to synchronize on FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE
Message-ID:  <20080228142126.GA46068@eos.sc1.parodius.com>
In-Reply-To: <20080228140220.GA890@gmail.com>
References:  <20080227213340.8723D106567D@hub.freebsd.org> <20080228140220.GA890@gmail.com>

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On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 09:02:20PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote:
> > You're not getting responses back from __any__ of those NTP servers.  If
> > you have a firewall *in front* of your BSD box (meaning a separate box,
> > not ipfw/ipfilter/pf on the same BSD box!), then this is likely the
> > cause of the problem.
> The question is that two weeks ago, with same machine, same gateway, same NAT and same firewall config, when I was on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE and behind NAT, I could sync with ALL IPv6 servers (IPv4 is not functioning there) I said that in my first post.
> I'm pretty sure that if I went back to 6.2 even behind NAT, I could get sync with IPv6. Long writing since my first post I shall summarize my events here for better understanding, and sorry for redundancy.
> 1. FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE(dial up) - can sync all servers
> 2. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE(dial up) - can sync all servers
> 3. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE(NAT)     - can sync IPv6 servers
> 4. FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE (NAT)     - not sync at all
> The issue is the different result between 3. and 4.
> It seems something different between 6.2-RELEASE and 6.3-STABLE. 
> But today I hear good news for issuance of 7.0-RELEASE.
> I shall go on with the new RELEASE.
> My bad news is I've just updated to 6.3 for 2 weeks. :-(

Okay, so this really sounds like something that changed between 6.2 and
6.3.  I don't know what kind of NAT you're using; I believe FreeBSD
offers a couple different methods.

More information is required...

1) What NAT method are you using (ipfw, ipnat, etc.)
2) What does your network topology look like (draw a diagram, referring
   to each NIC/ethernet device, IPs, and so on)
3) Please post your NAT rules
4) Have you checked /usr/src/UPDATING for relevant changes?

Someone else will have to help you from this point on, because I am not
familiar with present-day NAT configuration/usage on FreeBSD.

But again: on fxp0, you're seeing outbound NTP queries, but you never
get responses on fxp0.  Something somewhere is blocking that traffic.

One final question:

> I'm not using BSD box as a router.

Then I'm not sure why you're using NAT on the box at all?

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